Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 25 May 2002 17:05:42 +0900, you wrote: >Murdoch wrote: > >> >One has to note that new chemicals, drugs, GM crops, iffy stuff >> >promoted by the big guys does not exactly receive the same treatment. >> >What do they call it? - substantive equivalence, or something. >> >>But, if this is wh

Re: Diesel-bashing - was Re: [biofuel] Sen. John Kerry (Dem.: Mass.)

2002-05-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 26 May 2002 12:10:09 +0900, you wrote: >Hello Murdoch >>I saw no info on this at journeyforever.org, > >Why would you expect to see info on it there? Because I saw a collection of news stories which seem give some news stories of where major diesel issues or advances appear, though on s

[biofuel] efficiency issue

2002-05-25 Thread Christian
Now that I«ve attained my first objective: effectiveness, I«m moving into the efficiency field. At least, I«m trying. My first goal was to make BD, and now I«ve become more or less familiarized with the process, so I«m checking out ways in which to reduce costs (moneywise and environment wise).

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol from glycerine?

2002-05-25 Thread Appal Energy
Pierre, We saw the same doomsday piece on klebsiella bacteria. In any event, it's bio-tech. There are a couple of paths to produce ethanol from glycerol, just that it's not a single product or single step reaction. As well, all stages have to be conducted in tightly controlled environments. Co-p

[biofuel] newsfeeds

2002-05-25 Thread studio53
If you are looking for this kind of newsfeed you might try www.dieselnet.com Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday,

Disel-bashing - was Re: [biofuel] Sen. John Kerry (Dem.: Mass.)

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Murdoch >A few months ago Senator Kerry, who is a likely candidate for >President in 2004 (and probably someone I'd vote for), launched an >across-the-bow campaign aimed at the Bush Administration's Energy >Policies. It was well-crafted I thought, but a few weeks later he >took a big blow

Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-25 Thread Appal Energy
Greg, Sorry. The yard grabbed my attentions all day. I wish I had a definitive answer for you. I'm looking back at my notes and I see two references to exemptions. One is an exemption for "extensive health affects studies" for producers under $10 million a year. The other states a waiver of Tier

Re: [biofuel] MegaSquirt - Electronic Fuel Injection Computer by Bowling & Grippo

2002-05-25 Thread steve spence
very nice Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Origin

[biofuel] Fuel and Fuel additives registration

2002-05-25 Thread k5farms
The F/FA registration program is authorized by section 211 of the Clean Air Act (CAA) and codified in 40 CFR part 79. In accordance with CAA sections 211(a) and (b)(1), basic registration requirements applicable to gasoline and diesel fuels and their additives were issued in 1975. These regul

[biofuel] Re: biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-25 Thread k5farms
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > of biodiesel under a given amount won't have to conduct > > Health Affects studies any more than small volume dino-diesel > > producers do today. > > > Were can I find more info on this small volume dino-diesel exemption

Re: [biofuels-biz] Is 10% EthOH, 10%water, 20% bio, 60% diesel the ultimate blend?

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
>I fail to see how adding water to the fuel is of benefit. water injection >cools the air charge, allowing more air to be injested, boosting power, and >preventing premature detonation. water filters on diesels are there for a >reason. > > >Steve Spence >Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newslette

Re: [biofuel] switchgrass to ethanol/other topics

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Paul, Jeff >- Original Message - >From: "jmwelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >[snip] > > Secondly, the mention of using vinegar vs roundup for organic > > farming is very intriguing, but household vinegar actually only > > contains 3% acetic acid. How do you get stronger concentrations o

Re: [biofuel] switchgrass to ethanol/other topics

2002-05-25 Thread Gobert
- Original Message - From: "jmwelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snip] > Secondly, the mention of using vinegar vs roundup for organic > farming is very intriguing, but household vinegar actually only > contains 3% acetic acid. How do you get stronger concentrations of > vinegar and how ha

Re: [biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:09:48AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: >The best address to send complaints to is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which whois > lists as the administrative contact for ntlworld.com), also I've found that > [EMAIL PROTECTED] workds and neither give an autoreply. Hmm, did later g

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol from glycerine?

2002-05-25 Thread pierremarx
I've done a few searches on the topic. It seems as if it is vertually impossible to produce ethanol from glycerine by fermentation - for a back yard job, that is. It also seems as if some nasty genetically engineered critters called "klebsiella" bacteria are needed for the fermentation. If these a

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Harmon Seaver
Procmail does the job for me. Mailwasher is a windoze only app, won't run on anything I own. Procmail dumps the garbage before I ever see it, even works for all that asian/cyrillic/korean/chinese/etc spam, and you don't have to configure any mail readers or anything else. Plus the user base, am

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread steve spence
http://www.mailwasher.net/ Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread steve spence
Mailwasher. I highly recommend it. http://www.mailwasher.net/ Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/

Re: [biofuel] A question about moonshine.

2002-05-25 Thread steve spence
160 proof (80%) is sufficient for ethanol only fuel. 100 % (200 proof) is necessary when mixing with gasoline (gasohol). Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices,

Re: [biofuel] truck question

2002-05-25 Thread steve spence
CTTS has been testing biodiesel in one project, and duramax engines in another. I wonder if the researchers did any crossbreeding. http://www.ctts.nrel.gov/transtimes/archives/times_100501.html expect to see a duramax running on biodiesel at the future truck competition. https://www.futuretruc

[biofuel] Sen. John Kerry (Dem.: Mass.)

2002-05-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A few months ago Senator Kerry, who is a likely candidate for President in 2004 (and probably someone I'd vote for), launched an across-the-bow campaign aimed at the Bush Administration's Energy Policies. It was well-crafted I thought, but a few weeks later he took a big blow (apparently) when hi

Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-25 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 20:33 Subject: Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps > > of biodiesel under a given amount won't have to conduct > Health Affects studies any more than small volume dino-diesel > producers do to

Re: [biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Harmon Seaver
The best address to send complaints to is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which whois lists as the administrative contact for ntlworld.com), also I've found that [EMAIL PROTECTED] workds and neither give an autoreply. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

[biofuel] US Government Backs Biobased Manufacturing

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5681 TOMPAINE.com - A Green Bill Of Health? The Government Backs Biobased Manufacturing Laura Iiyama is a freelance reporter based in Washington, DC. For the past three decades, manufacturers of biobased products have struggled to establish a toehold in th

Re: [biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Appal Energy
Thank you Keith, We were just starting to get the same "over quota" message repeatedly for a second "...ntlworld.com" address. Todd - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 12:24 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Glitches? > Dear all > > T

[biofuels-biz] US Government Backs Biobased Manufacturing

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5681 TOMPAINE.com - A Green Bill Of Health? The Government Backs Biobased Manufacturing Laura Iiyama is a freelance reporter based in Washington, DC. For the past three decades, manufacturers of biobased products have struggled to establish a toehold in th

[biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
Dear all The problem some or most or all of us been having with unwanted subscriptions to a Lyris list should now be solved. That's this one: "Lyris ListManager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The people who run this list, Elsevier Science (Singapore) Pte Ltd, have been very cooperative, but they can't

Re: [biofuels-biz] Is 10% EthOH, 10%water, 20% bio, 60% diesel the ultimate blend?

2002-05-25 Thread steve spence
I fail to see how adding water to the fuel is of benefit. water injection cools the air charge, allowing more air to be injested, boosting power, and preventing premature detonation. water filters on diesels are there for a reason. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http:

Re: [biofuel] switchgrass to ethanol/other topics

2002-05-25 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:55:17PM -, jmwelter wrote: > How much starch or fermentable material is in switchgrass when it is > fermented. I have been looking into switchgrass but they don't say > how they process it to ethanol. Is there a cellulosis process for > doing this? I thou

Re: [biofuel] US EPA, ethanol industry to meet on pollution probe

2002-05-25 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 05:52:59PM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: > > EPA said the primary source of pollution at ethanol plants was the > drying process that turns the "mash," or corn residue, into livestock > feed. > Where is the CO coming from? It seems hardly likely it's coming from the

[biofuel] switchgrass to ethanol/other topics

2002-05-25 Thread jmwelter
How much starch or fermentable material is in switchgrass when it is fermented. I have been looking into switchgrass but they don't say how they process it to ethanol. Is there a cellulosis process for doing this? Corn for silage (whole plant) typically yields 5-7 tons of dry matter per acr

[biofuel] reverse osmosis of alcohol

2002-05-25 Thread jmwelter
Has anyone ever considered using reverse osmosis to remove water from alcohol? I am not talking about the distilled product which is 90% alcohol, but when it is done fermenting and contains 10-20% alcohol, would you be able to get enough water out to make it worthwhile to do so? I suppose th

[biofuels-biz] US EPA, ethanol industry to meet on pollution probe

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16072/story.htm Planet Ark : US EPA, ethanol industry to meet on pollution probe USA: May 22, 2002 WASHINGTON - The U.S. ethanol industry, suspected by the government of violating the Clean Air Act, will sit down with the Environmental Protect

[biofuel] US EPA, ethanol industry to meet on pollution probe

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16072/story.htm Planet Ark : US EPA, ethanol industry to meet on pollution probe USA: May 22, 2002 WASHINGTON - The U.S. ethanol industry, suspected by the government of violating the Clean Air Act, will sit down with the Environmental Protect

[biofuels-biz] GM, Suzuki explore making electric vehicles

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16099/story.htm Planet Ark : GM, Suzuki explore making electric vehicles USA: May 23, 2002 DETROIT - General Motors Corp.'s and Suzuki Motor Corp.'s joint venture plant in Canada has signed an agreement with Electrovaya Inc. to develop electri

[biofuel] GM, Suzuki explore making electric vehicles

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16099/story.htm Planet Ark : GM, Suzuki explore making electric vehicles USA: May 23, 2002 DETROIT - General Motors Corp.'s and Suzuki Motor Corp.'s joint venture plant in Canada has signed an agreement with Electrovaya Inc. to develop electri

[biofuel] 'Smog Dogs' Track Down Dirtiest Cars on the Road

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/TechTV/techtv_smogdog020524.html ABCNEWS.com : Taking a Bite Out of Air Pollution 'Smog Dogs' Track Down Dirtiest Cars on the Road By Gary Nurenberg, Tech Live May 24 - A "smog dog" won't slobber on your slippers and deliver a newspaper as you sit in your

[biofuel] US tax credit to help Japanese hybrid vehicles

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16071/story.htm Planet Ark : US tax credit to help Japanese hybrid vehicles USA: May 22, 2002 DETROIT - The U.S. Internal Revenue Service said yesterday it would extend a tax credit of up to $2,000 to buyers of gasoline-electric hybrid vehicle

[biofuel] Blubber-bio?

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16097/story.htm Planet Ark : Norway seeks to destroy whale blubber mountain NORWAY: May 23, 2002 OSLO - Norway offered whalers a tiny cash payment yesterday to destroy a 1,000-tonne blubber mountain after failing to entice Japan to import the

[biofuel] test - please ignore

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
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Re: [biofuel] biofuel at the pumps

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison
Murdoch wrote: > >One has to note that new chemicals, drugs, GM crops, iffy stuff > >promoted by the big guys does not exactly receive the same treatment. > >What do they call it? - substantive equivalence, or something. > >But, if this is what it sounds like the idea that new substances >may

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 964

2002-05-25 Thread Tony & Elle Ackland
Al, > Hi I have produced moonshine [()0O] > I know that its impossible to 99% alcohole wil a still > My question being [at the most you can get anout 94% and > not a great deal of that in distilling a batch] > what percentage HAS the alcohole to be and what happens > when you can reach that purit