Re: [biofuels-biz] Canakci/Van Gerpen

2002-10-10 Thread Keith Addison
>The main focus of the Canakci/Van Gerpen report was the probability that >water production was inhibiting the reaction and this was where I, myself, >was unhappy with Alek's foolproof method (again, many thanks to Aleks as I >would not have found the report without his pioneering research). Take

RE: [biofuel] Re: Legal Obstacles for Biodiesel

2002-10-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi Kirk and Keith, For years now, the police have controlled if the use of tax exempted off road diesel or heating oil have been used in automobiles. Normally the control was if the marked diesel was in the vehicle. Every day it is hundreds of controls in every country. It only needs a very s

RE: [biofuel] Re: Legal Obstacles for Biodiesel

2002-10-10 Thread kirk
>I think it did work >that way during Prohibition didn't it? Didn't consumption go up? Very much so. And certain families were "made". Kirk -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:32 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:

Re: [biofuels-biz] Tree for oil production

2002-10-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Mauro, Was it, Oil from Sapium sebiferum seeds can potentially be a substitute for petroleum. Scheld et al. (1980) reports yields of S. sebiferum seeds ranging from 4,000 to 10,000 kg/ha, and estimates that 25 barrels of oil per year can be produced as a source of energy. In addition to its bio

RE: [biofuel] Re: Legal Obstacles for Biodiesel

2002-10-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Kirk >And when I tell people things are structured beyond their wildest dream they >think I am a conspiracy nut. >Sigh. >Kirk Yes, sigh. You're right, things are. But also there are conspiracy nuts, eh? Too often I see them go flying off down some blind-alley or other while remaining oblivi

RE: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Fred, I like to get the report, send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hakan At 03:46 PM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: >A complete report covering all of the applications of ethanol in gasoline, >in new and used engines is > >ERDC Project No 2511 "Field Trials of Ethanol/Petrol Blends" > >This trial sho

RE: [biofuel] Re: Legal Obstacles for Biodiesel

2002-10-10 Thread kirk
And when I tell people things are structured beyond their wildest dream they think I am a conspiracy nut. Sigh. Kirk -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:31 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: Legal Obstacles

[biofuel] Re: Legal Obstacles for Biodiesel

2002-10-10 Thread Keith Addison
Funny... there's this "Frying Squad" story from the UK, the World Energy report on a tax crackdown on the guys in Maine, and this from Oz, all more or less at once - from the veg-oil list yesterday: >Hi Guys: > >I briefly heard on the BBC this morning that in Australia people are >being tickete

[biofuels-biz] Tree for oil production

2002-10-10 Thread Mauro Knudsen
Hello to all, some time ago, someone named a tree that produces a fruit that cointain 30% of oil. Yield 900 to 9000 kg/hectarie, and grow with rain falls beetwen 5 to 25 inches per year. I can«t remember the name of this tree. It«s was some thing like pinoteus or pinoleticus... Someone can hel

[biofuels-biz] Hydrated ethanol/diesel fuel blends

2002-10-10 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.eidn.com.au/energyerdcemulsions.htm Emulsions of Hydrated Ethanol in Hydrocarbon Fuels By Apace Research Ltd EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Accountability Project Need In response to adverse environmental impacts from mass consumption of fossil petroleum fuels as well as international crude oi

[biofuel] Hydrated ethanol/diesel fuel blends

2002-10-10 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.eidn.com.au/energyerdcemulsions.htm Emulsions of Hydrated Ethanol in Hydrocarbon Fuels By Apace Research Ltd EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Accountability Project Need In response to adverse environmental impacts from mass consumption of fossil petroleum fuels as well as international crude oi

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread Edmund Lo
oops fred, can i get a copy of the pdf file thanks Ed - Original Message - From: "Fred Enga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 6:46 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines > A complete report covering all of the applications of ethanol in gasoline,

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread Edmund Lo
Doug, Can I get a copy of the pdf file thanks. Ed - Original Message - From: "Doug Foskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 08:46, you wrote: > > A complete report covering all of t

Re: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread Doug Foskey
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 08:46, you wrote: > A complete report covering all of the applications of ethanol in gasoline, > in new and used engines is > > ERDC Project No 2511 "Field Trials of Ethanol/Petrol Blends" > > This trial showed no harm to any engines, and documented the benefits. > > If anyone

RE: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread Party of Citizens
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RE: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread Fred Enga
A complete report covering all of the applications of ethanol in gasoline, in new and used engines is ERDC Project No 2511 "Field Trials of Ethanol/Petrol Blends" This trial showed no harm to any engines, and documented the benefits. If anyone wants a copy (PDF), email me and I will supply Reg

RE: [biofuels-biz] RE: UK veg oil 'crisis'

2002-10-10 Thread Spikes, Sarah
Is anyone working on a type of oil that won't give off the tell-tale odor? > -Original Message- > From: Darren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 4:21 PM > To: Vegoil-Diesel; Biofuels-Biz; Biofuel group > Subject: [biofuels-biz] RE: UK veg oil 'crisis' > > > > >

[biofuels-biz] Canakci/Van Gerpen

2002-10-10 Thread goat industries
The main focus of the Canakci/Van Gerpen report was the probability that water production was inhibiting the reaction and this was where I, myself, was unhappy with Alek's foolproof method (again, many thanks to Aleks as I would not have found the report without his pioneering research). Take the

RE: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread kirk
Brazil has lots of ethanol powered vehicles. I saw photographs of an engine from a taxicab. The engine had almost 300,000 miles on it and was in for an overhaul. Try that with gasoline. I notice propane also claims 2 to 3x engine life. Kirk http://www.agric.gov.ab.ca/engineer/ana_ethanol.html Al

Re: [biofuel] home heating

2002-10-10 Thread rgord
Another reason for a new tank is because of the algae stuff from diesel clinging to the walls of the old tank could clog filters etc. I also don't think too many residences up here don't own their own tank - besides why would the fuel co want to try and take 20 year old tanks out of peoples basem

RE: [biofuel] Police looking for cars running on cooking oil- Fryer Fighters

2002-10-10 Thread Martin
Holy god of back-asswardness! -Original Message- From: Steve Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:22 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Police looking for cars running on cooking oil- Fryer Fighters Police looking for cars running on cookin

[biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread Neil and Adele Craven
Sunflower Keith do you have any articles destroying this statement. It is currently being put out by Big Oil over the addition of 10 - 20% Ethanol in Australias Petrol. The Pres of the biofuel association is pushing it up hill with a very pointy and bendy stick. I would like some real test

[biofuel] Re: Soybean Sulfur Content

2002-10-10 Thread Craig Pech
Help needed. We were looking for a source for soy oil. Found one that gave an analysis including 0.41% sulfur - 4100 ppm. That sounds very high especially if we need to hit 15 ppm to meet ASTM standards. Does this number sound right? Is it high due to fertilizer the farmers are using? Does the Bi

Re: [biofuel] Police looking for cars running on cooking oil- Fryer Fighters

2002-10-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi Steve, It is sad isn't it.. If we look back to the sales tax issue on fuel, we have to accept, Big oil = Legislators = Big oil = Government = Big oil and the police becomes protectors of Big oils revenue instead of protectors of the people. Hakan At 01:22 PM 10/10/2002 +, you wrote:

Re: [biofuel] School busses

2002-10-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Very strong arguments for use of bio diesel that is very much cleaner, especially on particles. One other problem is that if the buses were gasoline, the improvement of the situation would maybe reach 30% to 50%. The report would end up disqualifying gasoline too. Unless we use 100% bio dies

Re: [biofuel] School busses

2002-10-10 Thread milliontc
For: Phew! That's what I call a list of refs. http://www.ehhi.org/diesel/pr_diesel1.html seems to be just what the doctor ordered. Thanks as always. James Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lE

[biofuel] Re: home heating

2002-10-10 Thread Keith Addison
dan wrote: >regarding price. the smallest oil boiler from omni is about 4 grand >plus installation and shipping from the west coast. that is high, >but if you burn free oil.. > >as for biod. in a boiler. sure you can use it, yes you have to use >non rubber (silicon) or other gaskets washers

[biofuel] Re: home heating

2002-10-10 Thread k5farms
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], mother <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > since posting this question, i've gotten some more > feedback (from a very reputable source) > this, because BD is more lika solvent, so little > rubber washers'll eventually get eaten through ... > but, as far as the furnace itself, o

[biofuels-biz] Plaese Help!

2002-10-10 Thread lorraine harrington
Please can you help me. After making Bio Diesel for over twelve months and only using oil from the same fish and chip shop which is Canola Oil and is always liquid, I tried some restaurant oil which is thick like porridge. I tried heating the oil up before making the bio Diesel and it has separ

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1154

2002-10-10 Thread Labhe Madhav
Dear Sir, Thanks a lot for your mail. We are an oil field Company. You may visit us at www.dewanchandgroup.com We want establish fewbio diesel plants in Maharashtra state of INDIA. There is lot of rice husk & rice bran & wild plants bearing non edible oil.We want to convert them to bio diesel as a

[biofuel] BIO_JELLY

2002-10-10 Thread Hot Dog
research http://www.kelseyville.com/biodsl/ http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://www.dancingrabbit.org/biodiesel/drbdiesel.html Batch 1 1 litre SVO, 200ml methanol, app 3.5g sodium hydroxide method - food blender blended 1 hr results - high yield of presumably bio-diesel conclusion -

[biofuel] RE: UK veg oil 'crisis'

2002-10-10 Thread Darren
Kerrie Missed it. Heard a brief bit on BBC local news this morning about police in Wales looking for people using cooking oil in their vehicles after the local ASDA supermarket was selling out of oil in record time Any chance you could summarise? Later. Bit on ITV UK natio

[biofuels-biz] RE: UK veg oil 'crisis'

2002-10-10 Thread Darren
Kerrie Missed it. Heard a brief bit on BBC local news this morning about police in Wales looking for people using cooking oil in their vehicles after the local ASDA supermarket was selling out of oil in record time Any chance you could summarise? Later. Bit on ITV UK natio

[biofuel] Police looking for cars running on cooking oil- Fryer Fighters

2002-10-10 Thread Steve Spence
Police looking for cars running on cooking oil Fryer Fighters - A Welsh police team dubbed "The Frying Squad" has been formed to sniff out motorists who fuel their cars with cooking oil from fish and chip shops in a bid to avoid paying high government fuel taxes. (it's not the taxes, it's the

Re: [biofuel] home heating

2002-10-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Lisa, I will make a more extensive explanation and see if we can put together some form of conversion advices, but I have not time for this now. Burner/Boiler are mostly combinations of two separate products and tuned to each other at installation. The tuning is the adjustment of the burner

[biofuel] presentation

2002-10-10 Thread dan
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[biofuel] Re: home heating

2002-10-10 Thread dan
regarding price. the smallest oil boiler from omni is about 4 grand plus installation and shipping from the west coast. that is high, but if you burn free oil.. as for biod. in a boiler. sure you can use it, yes you have to use non rubber (silicon) or other gaskets washers etc... but who

[biofuels-biz] Ethanol in Australia

2002-10-10 Thread Steven & Helen Hobbs
G'day all I made some phone calls about trying to purchase ethanol (sugar cane spirit) to use to make my bio-diesel (rather than using methanol) and it was suggested that I needed to contact the Australian Taxation Office to apply for a permit to use "X" amount of litres before I would be able to

[biofuel] WVO source data

2002-10-10 Thread biofueledenergy
Does anyone have any solid industry numbers for the typical WVO generated by various types of facilities such as typical fast food outlets, etc.? Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Sell a Home