Problem is in watersheds with little ranching as well. Hormone plume
intensifies with human settlements. An example is down the Columbia River.
Portland has problems and Columbia Gorge and area is pretty much low animal
population density. DES in steers has been abandoned by many producers here.
In 1998 it was reported that 80,975 adult and juvenile Atlantic
salmon escaped from farms into British Columbia's waters.
**
And then government agents see themselves as managers.
Couldn't manage their way out of a wet paper sack.
We are surrounded by idio
>Keith,
>
>I have only experiences from Swedish fish farmers and they
>are quite small. In Sweden we does not seem to have this very
>large industrialized ones, but a lot of small fish farmers. They
>seem to be a quite responsible bunch, more like family farms.
>
>I can not talk about other countr
Clues in the petrol?
But if so why not in all towns?
This could be the canary in the coal mine. Uh oh. What have we done now?
Kirk
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1227/p01s03-woeu.htm
In Europe, the case of the missing sparrows
By Peter Ford | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
PAR
Have you tested the water so you know it is iron?
Hakan
At 11:03 PM 12/28/2002 +, you wrote:
>Sorry to stray from the topic, but I thought the collective learning
>of the group might be able to help. Someone I know has just moved
>into a house with no mains water and so put in a borehole.
Keith,
I have only experiences from Swedish fish farmers and they
are quite small. In Sweden we does not seem to have this very
large industrialized ones, but a lot of small fish farmers. They
seem to be a quite responsible bunch, more like family farms.
I can not talk about other countries tha
"hcr_ii " wrote:
> Sorry to stray from the topic, but I thought the collective learning
> of the group might be able to help. Someone I know has just moved
> into a house with no mains water and so put in a borehole. Despite
> two filters installed by 'experts' the water is still strongly
> dis
>Yes Kirk,
>
>Mankind do make a mess
Some of us, not others, and it's more our institutions that are to
blame than individuals or communities.
>and I think that you can find parallels in the
>animal farming with almost all that you describe below. Look at the modern
>chicken and pig farms.
Yes
Kirk,
When you mentioned cow manure, I suddenly thought about all the hormones
that US gives to the cattle. In volume it is very much larger than birth
control pills. Maybe the trace levels of hormones in US waters comes from
animal farming. Apart from the risks of eating the meat, it could n
basic methods to purify water of iron
1.Phospahate compounds
2.Oxidizing filters
3.Aeration followed by filtration
4.Chemical oxidation followed by filtration.
http://doityourself.com/plumbing/ironinwater.htm
Iron in the ferric form and manganese stains clothes a
Yes Kirk,
Mankind do make a mess and I think that you can find parallels in the
animal farming with almost all that you describe below. Look at the modern
chicken and pig farms. Where I have my summer house in Sweden, it has
however been a quite noticeable return of wild Salmon. We also had v
Sorry to stray from the topic, but I thought the collective learning
of the group might be able to help. Someone I know has just moved
into a house with no mains water and so put in a borehole. Despite
two filters installed by 'experts' the water is still strongly
discoloured by iron.
Can any
River water up here probably has more cow manure than human in it. You can
no longer drink river water oficially due to coliform bacteria. Yes, a bit
of a drought here. I think judging by tree rings a 30 year drought.
The spring I think is called Big Spring and they say the water is over 100
years
A SIDE NOTE:
I've noticed locally a few farmers are extending their
cattle feedlots & pastures to the harvested corn fields
probably due to the anemic local & USA economy along with
future anticipated US Federal and State deficits &
higher personal taxes as well as higher fuel prices
in th
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:20:31 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>Would be nice if they had the sessions online for a marginal price package
>.
>
>Anyone from the NBB lurking?? ;-)
>
>James Slayden
I and Keith contacted them but they didn't much go for anything. In
the meantime I have another idea for
http://www.mercola.com/2002/dec/28/fish_farms.htm
Fish Farms Become Feedlots of the Sea
By Kenneth R. Weiss
Like cattle pens, the salmon operations bring product to market cheaply. But
harm to ocean life and possibly human health has experts worried.
If you bought a salmon filet in the s
LOL !
Good one.
My wife says Nehru took a tablespoon a day of his own urine as a health aid.
He was vegetarian wasn't he?
Meat eaters have a lot of uric acid to dispose of.
Kirk
-Original Message-
From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:17 AM
To:
Hi Kirk,
Is run off water in the Missouri river, from the
mountains, valleys, town or city sewers
up river, a more reliable source then
the big spring from the local mountain ?
I'd guess the water from the mountain spring
might be cleaner having been naturally filtered
by mother nature
I'ts probably over simplistic to say oil has less political influence
in Australia than in the US. But a real political impediment to
ethanol in Aus is the Great Barrier Reef. Sugar cane is grown in the
coastal-monsoonal belt bordered by the Reef, in many places having
replaced the dryland man
They do when they sell their successful business after a few years - thank
you very much!!!
In a message dated 27/12/02 17:42:38 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Engineers and scientists will never make as much money as business
executives. >>
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20021226/4730681s.htm
Some buffs mix up their own form of diesel
By David Kiley
Hayden Chasteen, 45, owns five Volkswagen TDI diesel cars and is among a
group of diesel buffs who use homemade ''biodiesel'' fuel.
Chasteen makes it in his garage five to 10 gall
Re biotech, James, see the one at the end: "And here's one that went wrong".
Ethanol from cellulose
http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html#cellulose
"Wood-Ethanol Report: Technology Review", Environment Canada 1999 --
good overview of the problem and the current solutions on offer.
http:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:20:31 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>Would be nice if they had the sessions online for a marginal price package
>.
>
>Anyone from the NBB lurking?? ;-)
>
>James Slayden
I and Keith contacted them but they didn't much go for anything. In
the meantime I have another idea for
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:39:19 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>Um, why do people forget about Arkenol??!! They have been around actually
>"doing" cellulosic ethanol already in the Sacramento area test plant.
>
>http://www.arkenol.com/
Well, until this moment I had never heard of them (or perhaps I've ru
Not my day today, it should be:
The Netherlands. It says that they must have the cleanest
water on earth, because the water have passed at least
5 Germans before it reached there.
Hakan
At 12:55 PM 12/28/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>It is a joke in The Netherlands. It says that they must have the
It is a joke in The Netherlands. It says that they must have the cleanest
water on earth, because the water have passed true at least 5 Germans
before it reached there.
Hakan
At 10:45 PM 12/27/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Glad I live on a mountainside in Montana. I know the water in Great falls is
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