[biofuels-biz] warning on methanol safety and respirators- biodieselers please read

2003-01-09 Thread girl mark
My friend Jeff Biosmell just took a long look at OSHA (US industrial safety regulator) and other safety regulations regarding handling of methanol. Some scary stuff turned up that a lot of us didn't know, and that many are basing our biodiesel-making practice on. I feel especially responsible d

[biofuel] warning on methanol safety and respirators- biodieselers please read

2003-01-09 Thread girl mark
My friend Jeff Biosmell just took a long look at OSHA (US industrial safety regulator) and other safety regulations regarding handling of methanol. Some scary stuff turned up that a lot of us didn't know, and that many are basing our biodiesel-making practice on. I feel especially responsible d

[biofuel] Cut USA Global Warming Pollution

2003-01-09 Thread MH
I received in the mail a notice that US citizens can -- Take Action to Cut Global Warming Pollution Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) will soon introduce groundbreaking legislation requiring cuts in US emissions of the heat-trapping gasses that cause global warming. T

[biofuel] Re: will the real Ken provost please stand up!!

2003-01-09 Thread provost_k2001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, James Slayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hehehehehe, > > While persuing some EV links I came across the following. > Will the Real Ken Provost please stand up!! > > http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/030b.jpg > > http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/030a.jpg > > U d

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
David, It took some time for the foreigners to catch up and that gave Detroit a chance to build and capture the market. Today I noticed that even Porsche is introducing a SUV for the North American market. LOL. Hakan At 08:58 PM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > If somebody, like me for example,

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
David, We are here talking about a one time write off the year you buy it. This is a very large difference than normal write off. This also give excellent opportunities for tax planning. If you followed the list discussion on this issue, you would also have seen the specific list of cars that q

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
David, You are probably less worried about American oil companies getting in on the Iraqi oil than the CEO of British Petroleum BP. He insisted that BP should get their fair share after the war. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,84,00.html I do not think that it was Saddam Hus

[biofuel] Ag subsidies

2003-01-09 Thread motie_d <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I came across an interesting letter on another list. I thought I'd share a portion of it with everyone. It agrees with my position on government subsidies, not only for Ag, but for all Businesses. Motie > Twenty years ago, New Zealand felt o

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306

2003-01-09 Thread Crabb, David
> If somebody, like me for example, would claim that this looks like a >hidden subsidy to the American car industry and as such is against WTO >rules. This based on availability and possible planning advantages in favor >of the US domestic industry. What would be your answer? I would say you a

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306

2003-01-09 Thread Crabb, David
You get to deduct if you use if for business purposes.. etc.. just like you could if you purchased a $50,000 electric car, or biodiesel burning car.. or whatever. Saying that it is a tax rebate for SUV purchases is tantamount to telling a lie. Just because you might not like SUVs is no excuse.

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306

2003-01-09 Thread Crabb, David
> >I can mostly agree with this, MM, but I have absolutely NO sympathy > >for your ideas on "where we are getting our fuel and at what price". > >The huge price is to the people of the Middle East, and the world, > >and there's worse to come, from the same culprits - led, first and > >forem

Re: [biofuel] Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN.

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Thank you James, Now it is only to get it out to so many as possible and I will be grateful for all the help I can get. Hakan At 03:03 PM 1/9/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Go get him Hakan!! > >On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Hakan Falk wrote: > > > > > Please help to distribute this letter to your friends an

Re: [biofuel] Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN.

2003-01-09 Thread James Slayden
Go get him Hakan!! On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Hakan Falk wrote: > > Please help to distribute this letter to your friends and foes. > Link to this letter: http://energy.saving.nu/biofuels/kazman.shtml > > > Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN. > Competitive Enterprise Institute,

Re: [biofuel] Re: bumper stickers for biofuel use?

2003-01-09 Thread James Slayden
ya know the interesting thing is when I test drove the Ford Th!nk at the EVAA stanford drive in, I got got a heck of a lot of interested stares when I took it out on El Camino. It was a real interest capturer, to bad Ford didn't see that and the design was kinda dumpy at the time!! Cute b

[biofuels-biz] Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN.

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Please help to distribute this letter to your friends and foes. Link to this letter: http://energy.saving.nu/biofuels/kazman.shtml Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN. Competitive Enterprise Institute, CEI I saw you on CNN Insight and it was a real show performance, but

[biofuel] Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN.

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Please help to distribute this letter to your friends and foes. Link to this letter: http://energy.saving.nu/biofuels/kazman.shtml Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV interview at CNN. Competitive Enterprise Institute, CEI I saw you on CNN Insight and it was a real show performance, but

Re: [biofuel] Injectors, glowplugs for SVO use

2003-01-09 Thread craig reece
Darren, Thanks so much for all of this! Very useful information. Craig Darren wrote: > Posted this on yahoogroups vegoil-diesel > May be of interest to people here who are not there (?) > > Darren Hill > www.vegburner.co.uk > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel

Re: [biofuel] Re: bumper stickers for biofuel use?

2003-01-09 Thread girl mark
you know, I'm not 100% sure what it is exactly, if I remember right, it's something from Japan (maybe even a Nissan or something like that?)- a one-seater egg of some kind. I've got to find Chris' email to ask him. I think the manufacturer loaned the university a few of these in conjunction wit

[biofuels-biz] RE: Vegetable Oil Based Bio Fuel Choices

2003-01-09 Thread Darren
Keith > > > >Alternative Diesel Fuels from Vegetable Oils and Animal Fats > Robert O > >DUNN and Gerhard KNOTHE Journal Oleo Sci. Vol 50. No 5 (2001) > It's an updater on their earlier work, mostly about biodiesel, with > some info on SVO and microemulsions. There might be more information >

RE: [biofuel] FW: windows

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Thom, R-values are still valid, it is the usual linear formula that is not. Just wanted to point out that, by improvement of the windows, the comfort and savings are larger than the traditional formula will indicate. If you can explain that in addition to R-values, you have better arguments. Ha

[biofuel] will the real Ken provost please stand up!!

2003-01-09 Thread James Slayden
Hehehehehe, While persuing some EV links I came across the following. Will the Real Ken Provost please stand up!! http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/030b.jpg or http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/030a.jpg U decide . ROTFL James Slayden Nice convert BTW!! Biofuel at Journey to Forever: htt

[biofuels-biz] Injectors, glowplugs for SVO use

2003-01-09 Thread Darren
Posted this on yahoogroups vegoil-diesel May be of interest to people here who are not there (?) Darren Hill www.vegburner.co.uk > Stephan, > > I just installed an Elsbett one-tank kit on an '84 Mercedes 300TD > wagon, and it works great, but not everyone who'd like a single-tank > system ca

[biofuel] Injectors, glowplugs for SVO use

2003-01-09 Thread Darren
Posted this on yahoogroups vegoil-diesel May be of interest to people here who are not there (?) Darren Hill www.vegburner.co.uk > Stephan, > > I just installed an Elsbett one-tank kit on an '84 Mercedes 300TD > wagon, and it works great, but not everyone who'd like a single-tank > system ca

[biofuel] grid chargeable hybrids

2003-01-09 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:06:19 -0600, you wrote: >"The concept of grid-chargeable hybrids isn't mentioned but I think it is on >the minds of many activists"?? Yeah, like me. > >All the hybrids know to date ... all seem to based upon the concept of "I AM >A ICE CAR (tiny mouse voice) with a "l

RE: [biofuel] FW: windows

2003-01-09 Thread Thom Strange
Hakan, It is unfortunate that the US adapts so slowly to wiser building practices, so I tip my hat to those that do integrate more intelligent methods and materials. R-value is the unit of measurement that I use first because it is the one that most people are familiar with. But thank you for y

Re: used water heating panel availability was Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1302

2003-01-09 Thread James Slayden
I know of a large (ie. 4x6') double glazed window I can get for free if anyone is interested. On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, girl mark wrote: > Hi, > If you're adventurous (which is not the situation we're putting our > 'clients' into, but fine for an adventurous owner-builder willing to fix > things) , so

[biofuel] GM rethinks hydrogen fuel cells

2003-01-09 Thread murdoch
No, but thanks for mentioning it. Pending learning more about it, I guess I'd group it with other somewhat exotic attempts to store Hydrogen in materials, such as Sodium Borohydride, that apparently can be then used as fuels in a fuel cell. Since we keep coming back to fuel cells using Hydroge

Re: [biofuels-biz] bumper stickers- let's make 'em! :)

2003-01-09 Thread James Slayden
http://www.oshkoshbygosh.org/ some scathing political humor (posters, bumper stickers and T-shirts available!!) On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Hakan Falk wrote: > > Andrew, > > I think that it is very little to achieve in negative themes like > "boycott > OPEC". This kind of themes is participation in a

Re: [biofuels-biz] bumper stickers- let's make 'em! :)

2003-01-09 Thread James Slayden
Andrew, If you have been around vehicles burning Biodiesel any amount of time you begin to recognize the scent, which is very distinct in it's own right. The fuel itself also has a very distinct scent, which IMHO is wonderful. No need to change the recognition factor, although it might appeal to

Re: [biofuels-biz] Americans for Fuel Efficient Cars, Arianna Huffington, and The Detroit Project

2003-01-09 Thread James Slayden
Might just be better to contact her via email: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Slayden On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Andrew Hoppin wrote: > Arianna Huffington has put together a project to air hard-hitting ads > drawing a link between fuel inefficiency and terrorism, with the support > of > the Hollywoo

Re: [biofuels-biz] bumper stickers- let's make 'em! :)

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Andrew, I think that it is very little to achieve in negative themes like "boycott OPEC". This kind of themes is participation in a very dirty propaganda campaign preparing for armed conflicts. The reason is that US is ready to go to occupation war to secure the oil deliveries from the two la

[biofuel] Offroad Diesel Emissions Standards

2003-01-09 Thread robert luis rabello
I heard this feature on NPR this morning and found it a little hard to believe. It's interesting how the Europeans manage to refine cleaner diesel fuel, but the American refiners balk at the technical challenge. Here's the link: http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=909856 r

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Anger at Indonesian fuel price rises

2003-01-09 Thread James Slayden
Sheesh, when they seized the cooking oil truck they should have made some biodiesel. ;-) On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Keith Addison wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2637999.stm > BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | > Wednesday, 8 January, 2003, 09:44 GMT > > Anger at Indonesian pri

[biofuels-biz] Anger at Indonesian fuel price rises

2003-01-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2637999.stm BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Wednesday, 8 January, 2003, 09:44 GMT Anger at Indonesian price rises Protesters say the government has abandoned the poor Indonesians have held a third day of protests around the country against rises

[biofuel] Anger at Indonesian fuel price rises

2003-01-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2637999.stm BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Wednesday, 8 January, 2003, 09:44 GMT Anger at Indonesian price rises Protesters say the government has abandoned the poor Indonesians have held a third day of protests around the country against rises

[biofuel] Senate bill aims to cut US emissions

2003-01-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/19332/story.htm Senate bill aims to cut US emissions USA: January 9, 2003 WASHINGTON - Republican John McCain and Democrat Joseph Lieberman will introduce Senate legislation yesterday that would slash emissions spewed by U.S. utilities and in

[biofuels-biz] Senate bill aims to cut US emissions

2003-01-09 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/19332/story.htm Senate bill aims to cut US emissions USA: January 9, 2003 WASHINGTON - Republican John McCain and Democrat Joseph Lieberman will introduce Senate legislation yesterday that would slash emissions spewed by U.S. utilities and in

[biofuel] Re: Liquid Fuels vs. Electric Fuel

2003-01-09 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 02:00:13 -0500, you wrote: >murdoch wrote: >> >[snip] >> As to having a trailer behind an EV, first you'd need an EV, and that >> can be done my many mechanics, but the auto companies are still >> largely trying not to put them out there. But yes, dragging a >> generator beh

Re: [biofuel] Please help me check open letter to Kazman.

2003-01-09 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:49:03 +0100, you wrote: > >As Keith suggested, I am writing an open letter to mr. Kazman. Considering >that I am a foreigner. can you please help and check it for me. If you have >additional comments that would fit in, suggest them too. I am also going to >post it to new

Re: [biofuel] Re: bumper stickers for biofuel use?

2003-01-09 Thread Darryl McMahon
Can you give me co-ordinates on this vehicle? I would like to add it to the on- road EV list at: http://www.econogics.com/ev/evwhere.htm I need make, model, owner name (initials), home base location city and year of manufacture, if applicable. Thanks, Darryl McMahon To:

[biofuels-biz] bumper stickers- let's make 'em! :)

2003-01-09 Thread Andrew Hoppin
I agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts on bumper stickers / PR... I like "boycott OPEC" themes... What other cool slogans/ideas do people have? If we can throw out brilliant ideas and vote on them, I know some good designers, so I'll take it on to get some made up and make them available to an

[biofuels-biz] Americans for Fuel Efficient Cars, Arianna Huffington, and The Detroit Project

2003-01-09 Thread Andrew Hoppin
Arianna Huffington has put together a project to air hard-hitting ads drawing a link between fuel inefficiency and terrorism, with the support of the Hollywood honchos behind Seinfeld, Pulp Fiction, Good Will Hunting, Got Milk, etc. Nice to see this, in part because Arianna Huffington has conside

Re: [biofuel] fuel comparisons

2003-01-09 Thread Craig Pech
Carbon Monoxide. Craig - Original Message - From: "Mccall Tom WP US" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] fuel comparisons > > Were you measuring Carbon Monoxide or hydrocarbons? > > T > > -Original Message- > From: Craig Pech

RE: [biofuel] fuel comparisons

2003-01-09 Thread Mccall Tom WP US
Were you measuring Carbon Monoxide or hydrocarbons? T -Original Message- From: Craig Pech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:51 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] fuel comparisons Just did a comparison the other day. Used a Bacharach Monox

Re: [biofuel] fuel comparisons

2003-01-09 Thread Craig Pech
Just did a comparison the other day. Used a Bacharach Monoxor - about a $780 unit for the test. Ford diesel truck with about 25 to 30% BioD was 157 ppm. Ford Excursion (gas) parked next to it "pegged" at 2000 ppm (the unit does not read over 2000 ppm). Both vehicles are fairly new - less than 65,0

[biofuels-biz] EU Biofuels legislation

2003-01-09 Thread Darren
The biofuel legislation is getting voted up next week. It's the last chance to have a word in the ear of necessary EU officials to help get Pure Plant Oils accepted. This group of European SVO advocates have been busy, the Folkcenter report is a bit confusing (it appears to be the way with this

[biofuel] EU Biofuels legislation

2003-01-09 Thread Darren
The biofuel legislation is getting voted up next week. It's the last chance to have a word in the ear of necessary EU officials to help get Pure Plant Oils accepted. This group of European SVO advocates have been busy, the Folkcenter report is a bit confusing (it appears to be the way with this

Re: [biofuel] Re: Some choice Was: The Future of Fuel-Efficient Cars /The Thirst for Oil

2003-01-09 Thread malcolm.scott
- Original Message - From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Some choice Was: The Future of Fuel-Efficient Cars /The Thirst for Oil > > > csakima wrote: > > > But now, arbitrarily set gasoline to ... say $2

Re: [biofuel] Please help me check open letter to Kazman.

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
Was upset and posted it hastily, below is a little bit cleaner version to ponder, Dear Mr. Kazman I saw you on CNN Insight and it was a real show performance. It is only a few questions that I like to get covered about SUV. Since you pose in such a convincing way as expert, you should be ab

[biofuel] Please help me check open letter to Kazman.

2003-01-09 Thread Hakan Falk
As Keith suggested, I am writing an open letter to mr. Kazman. Considering that I am a foreigner. can you please help and check it for me. If you have additional comments that would fit in, suggest them too. I am also going to post it to news papers etc. and appreciate addresses and suggestion

[biofuel] FW: Utilities Ask to Bill for Security Fees

2003-01-09 Thread kirk
Utilities Ask to Bill for Security Fees By DAVID B. CARUSO, Associated Press Writer January 3, 2003, 4:49 PM EST PHILADELPHIA -- A growing number of utility companies are asking states for permission to add security fees to customers' bills to recover the cost of protecting themselves against p

[biofuel] fuel comparisons

2003-01-09 Thread Sarna Salzman
I'm looking for emission comparisons specifically between biodiesel and gasoline. There seems to be information comparing biodiesel and petroldiesel, but I'm having a hard time finding more. Can anyone point me in the right direction to find real data? We are working on a car sharing initiative

used water heating panel availability was Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1302

2003-01-09 Thread girl mark
Hi, If you're adventurous (which is not the situation we're putting our 'clients' into, but fine for an adventurous owner-builder willing to fix things) , solar hot water panels are very easy to get for free in the US these days. People who bought houses with them installed often don't want to