Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
A bit difficult to endorse a bill for the purposes of biodiesel when the same bill is laden with guarantees and bennies for the nuclear, coal and oil industries Besides, just exactly how much further is that going to propel the soy industry, complete with GMO, heavy pesticide and herbicide use

[biofuels-biz] EERE Network News -- 06/11/03

2003-06-11 Thread EERE
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- June 11, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). http://www.eere.energy.gov/

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators

2003-06-11 Thread Kumar Plocher
I, too, am opposed to the Bush Energy Plan, but I see the comments from Keith and Todd as, well, at least a little cynical. I mean, between something and nothing, I'd like to at least see something. And lest people say that's a lesser of two evils way of thinking, I'd like people to know, I

[biofuels-biz] Thailand to grow more palm for alternative fuel

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/21114/story.htm Thailand to grow more palm for alternative fuel THAILAND: June 10, 2003 BANGKOK - Thailand will spend nearly $200 million to more than double its palm oil production in the next four years and promote its use as an

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Kumar I, too, am opposed to the Bush Energy Plan, but I see the comments from Keith and Todd as, well, at least a little cynical. Not cynical, sceptical. It's the Bush Energy Plan that's cynical. I mean, between something and nothing, I'd like to at least see something. But at what

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators

2003-06-11 Thread Appal Energy
Aww gee. I wonder where all that cynicism comes from. Around here landowners put up their purses 20 years ago to a water company that was going to put lines through on every county road. Their still waiting. Maybe all that cynicism has something to do with energy to cheap to meter, (sure,

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators

2003-06-11 Thread Kumar Plocher
Whoa Todd, we're on the same side. I just felt like the NBB alert was at least a good reminder that we should sometimes write our senators. And I re-iterate, I hope to hell the Bush Energy Plan does not go through. Kumar Plocher Yokayo Biofuels - Original Message - From: Appal

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators

2003-06-11 Thread Hakan
Hi Kumar, I must have missed something, because I have not seen a Bush Energy Plan for the US society. I have seen and read many parts of the Bush business plan for the US energy corporations, but an energy plan for the benefit of the American people? I think as a short sighted profitable

[biofuels-biz] Unions Back Research Plan for Energy

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/06/national/06LABO.html Unions Back Research Plan for Energy By STEVEN GREENHOUSE Ten labor unions, including the steelworkers and auto workers, urged presidential candidates yesterday to back a 10-year, $300 billion research plan that would promote energy

Re: [biofuel] Searching for a processor

2003-06-11 Thread Pieter Koole
You can send it to me for free. As much as you like. But I live in Holland, so the transportcostst will probably too high. I'ts up to you. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: pam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [biofuel] Re Ethanol from bread waste?

2003-06-11 Thread Gary Gluyas
Tony I can't seem to get this link to work - any ideas? Regards Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ackland, Tony (CALNZAS) To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re Ethanol from bread waste? Bread has been

[biofuel] Veg-oil lubricant/Complex mixing of fuels

2003-06-11 Thread benjinsl
Hi Folks, Been thinking and reading from a few discussion groups. The topic of using veg-oil as lubricant in place of petrol-based motor oil was brought up in another forum ( http://biodiesel.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic? a=tpcs=465094322f=166094322m=5933090327 )with the idea of using an

[biofuel] Pumping oil with the sun...

2003-06-11 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
http://www.solaraccess.com/news/story?storyid=4450 Pumping oil with the sun. Huh? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM

[biofuel] (fwd) EV1 Story in LA Times/ABC News

2003-06-11 Thread murdoch
I don't think I have read a better article summarizing the EV1 situation, including the stunning Orwellian runaround one gets from GM Corporate, the in-the-middle situation of the Subversives at GM who actually wanted to make things work, the stunning disrespect of customers attempting to make a

[biofuel] (fwd) EV1 Story in LA Times/ABC News

2003-06-11 Thread murdoch
Bad Link, sorry. Hopefully this will work: http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/magazine/la-tm-ev123jun08,1,5653617.story I don't think I have read a better article summarizing the EV1 situation, including the stunning Orwellian runaround one gets from GM Corporate, the in-the-middle

[biofuel] EERE Network News -- 06/11/03

2003-06-11 Thread EERE
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- June 11, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). http://www.eere.energy.gov/

RE: [biofuel] (fwd) EV1 Story in LA Times/ABC News

2003-06-11 Thread kirk
old link worked for me. This one wants you to register. -Original Message- From: murdoch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:07 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bill Moore; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [biofuel] Veg-oil lubricant/Complex mixing of fuels

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Folks, Been thinking and reading from a few discussion groups. The topic of using veg-oil as lubricant in place of petrol-based motor oil was brought up in another forum ( http://biodiesel.infopop.net/2/OpenTopic? a=tpcs=465094322f=166094322m=5933090327 )with the idea of using an

Re: [biofuel] Bechtel: Profiting from Destruction, and how.

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
More: http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2003-05/12shiva.cfm May 12, 2003 Bechtel And Blood For Water: War As An Excuse For Enlarging Corporate Rule By Vandana Shiva Within a month of the start of the war against Iraq, the real victor is emerging. Bechtel has got a $680 million contract

[biofuel] Thailand to grow more palm for alternative fuel

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/21114/story.htm Thailand to grow more palm for alternative fuel THAILAND: June 10, 2003 BANGKOK - Thailand will spend nearly $200 million to more than double its palm oil production in the next four years and promote its use as an

[biofuel] Re Ethanol from bread waste?

2003-06-11 Thread Ackland, Tony (CALNZAS)
Gary, I can't seem to get this link to work - any ideas? http://homedistiller.org/wash-grain2.htm#bread works OK for me. Tony Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: Action Alert - Please Contact your Senators

2003-06-11 Thread Hakan
Hi Kumar, I must have missed something, because I have not seen a Bush Energy Plan for the US society. I have seen and read many parts of the Bush business plan for the US energy corporations, but an energy plan for the benefit of the American people? I think as a short sighted profitable

[biofuel] Re: [renewable-energy] (fwd) EV1 Story in LA Times/ABC News

2003-06-11 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:27:46 -0700, you wrote: Fascinating article. I do have one question. Almost all electricity is based on fossil fuels. Taking into consideration the fuel required to make the electricity at the power plant, what are the miles per gallon for an EV? This message

[biofuel] This is so pathetic

2003-06-11 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030610/ap_on_go_co/natural_gas_crunch_13 The U.S.'s only response to this looming crunch on natural gas is to fall into the same trap we have done with Oil? Where does it end? Why does such a great country have to just demand such massive

[biofuel] Unions Back Research Plan for Energy

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/06/national/06LABO.html Unions Back Research Plan for Energy By STEVEN GREENHOUSE Ten labor unions, including the steelworkers and auto workers, urged presidential candidates yesterday to back a 10-year, $300 billion research plan that would promote energy

[biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead

2003-06-11 Thread Keith Addison
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2966094.stm BBC NEWS | Technology | Self-drive cars ahead 7 June, 2003, 07:46 GMT 08:46 UK Self-drive cars ahead End in sight for traffic chaos? In the future technology will drive cars for us, eliminating road rage and accidents and making traffic jams a

Re: [biofuel] This is so pathetic

2003-06-11 Thread robert luis rabello
murdoch wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030610/ap_on_go_co/natural_gas_crunch_13 The U.S.'s only response to this looming crunch on natural gas is to fall into the same trap we have done with Oil? Where does it end? Why does such a great country have to just

Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead

2003-06-11 Thread murdoch
I don't mean that we shouldn't have and use cars, just that they should be driven by computers and not humans, electronically tethered to cars in front and behind, he said. Interesting. What I didn't explain very well in my previous allusion to this, is that in the trial they ran here a few