Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread MH
Fahrenheit 9/11 Facts http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/f911facts/ What does the media have to say about Fahrenheit 9/11 http://www.fahrenheit911.com/about/press/ June 30, 2004 NY Daily News: "A soaring display of American patriotism" Moore's message delivered, big-tim

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT humor - divine retribution

2004-07-02 Thread bmolloy
Dear Kim, I have chosen this list member's email address at random to reply to you. It must be several millenia since I spoke directly to anyone, much less answer self-interested requests but in this case you may have a point. History is possibly not your strong point but you ma

[biofuel] Divine retribution - the facts

2004-07-02 Thread bmolloy
Hi Kim, If you need another angle on your water "problem", read on: Regards, Bob. http://www.alternet.org/story/19017/ AlterNet The New Blue Gold By Silja J.A. Talvi, AlterNet. Posted June 23, 2004. The rush to privatize water is underway across the world. In the new documentary 'T

[biofuel] Glass tanks and my progres

2004-07-02 Thread Teoman Naskali
Is it posiible to use aquariums or glass tanks for the process, acid eats the metal and alcohol can do damage to the plastics but none of them can harm glass bu ofcourse then the problem would be silicone used to stick & seal the glass. I didnt like the idea of processor where you cant see everyt

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread rhsanborn
I applaud your attempt to discredit the source rather than to make any attempt whatsoever to discredit the arguement or the premise itself. But here are some more reputable sources, irregardless of the fact that the site I linked had a number of reference sources. http://denver.rockymountainne

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread bioveging
Perhaps my post # 36427 can shed some light of it. :) L. --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Randall, > > > I'm also from Michigan, doesn't mean I blindly accept the opinion of > everyone who speaks here. > > That goes "ditto" for me as well, especially

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale

2004-07-02 Thread george meredith
how much,what is the cost shipping to louisiana "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I have a Westfalia centrifugal separator for sale. Its rated to approx. 900L per hr, has a single phase and 3-phase motor. I imported it from the states for a bio-diesel pilot plant. Is any one int

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread MH
SCORCHING! The best film Michael Moore has made so far, a powerful and passionate expression of outraged patriotism. THE NEW YORK TIMES - A.O. Scott http://www.fahrenheit911.com One of the most controversial and provocative films of the year, Fahrenheit 9/11 is Academy Award-winning fil

[biofuel] The Paradox 2 Experiment

2004-07-02 Thread tallex2002
The Paradox 2 Experiment Hi all, I thought a few of you may be interested in this motor and the tech behind it. The Paradox 2 Experiment http://www.distinti.com/paradox/index.htm regards Get your daily alternative energy news fix http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale

2004-07-02 Thread pieter van eeten
Hi Pieter, Seems I found a fellow Dutch guy around, something bound to happen of course. Pieter I recently became interested in Biodiesel and want to start producing it or at least give it my best shot. However, it seems I cannot get hold of decent lye (or NaOH) would you mind telling me whe

[biofuel] Re: Like to Introduce Myself - Ethanol Maker

2004-07-02 Thread linux4freaks
Hey Dennis, I know how it is with too many projects. My current setup is a bit on the small side right now. I boil my mash in a 15 gallon keg (same one I use for the beer I make), ferment in a 15 gallon plastic barrel and then made a reflux still out of a another 15 gallon keg (found a PDF calle

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Hakan Falk
Randall, This make me laugh and get very angry at the same time. You talk about the attempts to discredit the source instead of arguments, when it comes to yourself. When I then look at the argument, it is about that you tried to discredit the source instead of the arguments. LOL What made m

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale

2004-07-02 Thread Pieter Koole
Hi Pieter, Where do you live ? My supplier is Breustedt in Apeldoorn Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale

2004-07-02 Thread pieter van eeten
Eindhoven, do they sell wholesale at Breustedt or also smaller batches, seem more appropriate to start small with my first batch. Have you been making BD for a while? >From: Pieter Koole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [biofuel]

Re: [biofuel] Glass tanks and my progres

2004-07-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Teoman >Is it posiible to use aquariums or glass tanks for the >process, acid eats the metal and alcohol can do damage >to the plastics but none of them can harm glass It's not that much of a problem, even ordinary mild steel survives rather well, should be fine for a couple of years at l

Re[2]: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo All, I find it somewhat curious that some folks bend over backwards to discredit Mike Moore because they don't like his movie and think that he rearranges things so that people appear to be saying one thing when they are "really" saying something else, that they are lying to the pu

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Brian
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I applaud your attempt to discredit the source rather than to make any attempt whatsoever to discredit the arguement or the premise itself. Have you ever heard the expression "the pot calling the kettle black?" I don't know if I've e

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Appal Energy
> Perhaps my post # 36427 can shed some light of it. :) Not really L. Yes. I read your post. I also left it lay, as your conclusion that F 9/11 would lead to a Saudi witch hunt is rather threadbare. If you'd paid some attention to F 9/11 you'd be able to note that the film points out numerous v

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Brian
I wrote my reply to Randall's post before looking at his references. For that I apologize. Now that I have read Heston's entire speech, I would like to thank him for posting that link here. He has proven to us all that the editing that Moore did in "Bowling fro Columbine" presented a very f

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Appal Energy
Mr. Sanborn, Let's try a little honesty for a moment. I know that it might pain you. But give it a go just once. First of all, yes, you're correct. I do make point of "discredit[ing] the source[s]," especially when the "sources" you use are ripe with error. Second, when a person utilizes source

Re: [biofuel] Glass tanks and my progres

2004-07-02 Thread Appal Energy
Teoman, "All things are possible." But that doesn't necessarily mean that they are advisable. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Teoman Naskali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:56 PM Subject: [biofuel] Glass tanks and my progres > Is it posiible to

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale

2004-07-02 Thread Pieter Koole
I make lots of it since several years. At Breustedt you can buy 25 kg bags or more. Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale

2004-07-02 Thread Pieter Koole
The number is 06 2049 38 58 (Jan de Jong). Mention my name if you wish, and maybe you'll even get it a little cheaper. I have a small factory and Jan is my supplier. Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Randall Sanborn
You moved so quickly to find error with the sources that you completely disregarded the argument itself. I'll readily admit that there are some seriously flawed pieces on that site, but if you look through the two examples I mentioned you'll see a few perfect examples of disinformation. The pictur

[biofuel] Biodiesel Coop in Northern New Mexico

2004-07-02 Thread Heath F Blount
Hello everybody, I live near Santa Fe and am looking for anyone in the area interested in investigating a Coop or club for building and refining processors. I have good work spaces(inside and out), and would be ok meeting there. I have done small batches(5 gal), and would like to work on washi

[biofuel] the philadelphia experiment

2004-07-02 Thread tallex2002
The Philadelphia Experiment Hi all, I thought that I would post these links. Some of you may be aware of these stories but a lot of folks have never heard of the Philadelphia experiment and it is interesting reading, regards The "Philadelphia Experiment" http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/f

[biofuel] THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-02 Thread RICHARD BOGRAD
The conversations and accusations are flying around, so I thought I would post an article I received from a humor writer which may help someone put this whole discussion in perspective. Enjoy. Dick THIS WEEK'S COLUMN: "THE HOT MOVIE THAT'S BURNING BUSH" Michael Moore's documentary "F

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Appal Energy
> You moved so quickly to find error with the sources that you completely > disregarded the argument itself. Nah, nah, nah, nah homey. If the foundation is rotten the roof quickly collapses. Again, there is no valid argument than can be constructed on faulty data. You can try all you like, but a

Re: [biofuel] THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-02 Thread Appal Energy
Richard, Don't you think that there is something problematic with a president who sits for 7 minutes and continues to read about goats to children when bombs (or airplanes) are exploding within his country? What if those two planes had only been the first of an entire wave? Think that those was