Re: [biofuel] PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-07-05 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
Thank you Keith, for the first time on this list, I have been using the delete button constantly. Bright Blessings, Kim At 02:40 PM 7/5/2004, you wrote: > - was Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 > >Long, but please read it anyway. > >I very much hope this generates some discussion at least here. I can >tell

Re: [biofuel] generator/refrigerator

2004-07-05 Thread rico suavae
Thanks! I never saw one of these before.When I get time i'm going to try one Rico Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Absolutely superb! And to think that we're still fiddlin' with Crosley's Icyball around here http://www.ggw.org/~cac/IcyBall/crosley_icyball.html http://www.ggw.org/~cac

[biofuel] Re: PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-07-05 Thread Brian
Keith, I apologize for my part in this. Although I address this directly to you, I do realize tht the apology is owed to the group. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - was Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 > > Long, but please read it anyway. > > -

Fwd: PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - was Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 Long, but please read it anyway. - Thankyou Gustl!!! Happy Happy, hopefully >Hallo Friends, > >Although I am responding to this mail of Curtis' it is a general mail >to the list in ge

Fwd: Hakan - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg, This is an other thing, changing id is normal and always possible. The system should alert on that. Hakan At 19:51 05/07/2004, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Hakan Falk > To: biofuel@yahoogr

Fwd: Gustl - Re[2]: Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel]

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Gustl Steiner-Zehender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hallo Greg, Monday, 05 July, 2004, 14:46:05, you wrote: GH> Only yours Todd, only yours. ...snip... GH> Mr. Harbican. You are quickly becoming a waste of occupied air space. And GH> this is not the first tim

Fwd: Greg - Re: Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Only yours Todd, only yours. I said it once, I'll say it again because you probably sniped it before you read it. I made a mistake of the President getting the news of flight 93 ( which he got back at Air Force One ) a

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The co-pilot was in communication with the tower, right up to the end. - Original Message - From: canros_uk To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 03:43 Subject: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOV

Fwd: Todd - Re: Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mr. Harbican. You are quickly becoming a waste of occupied air space. And this is not the first time that you've exhausted the patience, consumed the energies and wasted the time of many people on this list. You have virtua

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree up to a point, but, that point is what the other planes would do after the first crash, it could have been a mistake by a stupid hijacker ( that thought he knew how to fly ), but, the second crash showed it was n

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While I agree with some parts, I think that part of the blame goes to Rumsfield, I have been finding out that he ( Rumsfield ) has been pushing to finish Iraq since the first gulf war, and seems to have been a driving fo

Fwd: Hoagy - Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: VCS Gives "Fahrenheit 9/11" a Five Star Rating Veterans for Common Sense http://www.michaelmoore.com Posted 6/25/2004 Veterans for Common Sense presents Michael Moore and his film crew and staff with a five star review for his

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:09 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE Greg, I am sorry, but I do not belive that they could t

Fwd: Greg - Re: Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rewrite history? Talk about a fairytale. Yes, you sniped the whole thing, before you even read it or looked at the source ( not that I agree with all that the source had to say ). All I was talking about is possible re

Fwd: Hakan - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg, I am sorry, but I do not belive that they could turn off the transponder on an air-liner, but maybe they got lost for other reasons. It must have been the Pennsylvania one, who was not in controlled air space. Hakan At

Fwd: Phil Dodd - How's Come Berkely is the Hot Bed of Forward Thinking.

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sitting here in my south-central pennsylvania funk lamenting the fact that when I talk biodiesel I am looked at like I have 2 heads. Though there is a couple of seminars coming to the Washington D.C. area next week and again i

Fwd: Hakan - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg, I am looking at this through my eyes (currently only one, LOL), who lived and worked in US and all major West European countries, since I moved out of Sweden 28 years ago. Also visited around 60 more countries, mostly fo

Fwd: Todd - Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg, > Lets, think it through. How about you do that and everyone else not, because everyone but you already has. It's only you that wants to keep throwing distorted bents amid the facts while intentionally debasing group

[biofuel] PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-07-05 Thread Keith Addison
The Fahrenheit 9/11 - THE HOT MOVIE - Michael Moore thread will now end. Enforcement is likely to be ruthless. Keith Addison List owner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker.

Fwd: Hoagy - Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fahrenheit 9/11 Moore vs Bush FILMS WORTH WATCHING by Robert Alstead They should make a film about Michael Moore's battle to get his latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 distributed in the States. What is it about the subject matter

Fwd: Hoagy - Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Filled with probing questions and disturbing footage, Fahrenheit 9/11 covers territory and accusations that may be familiar to many but does a fascinating job of stitching them all together into a critical mass and exposing the pro

Fwd: Hakan - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg, No one have ever said it was not a mess and many mistakes done. The only thing I am saying is that many knew that it was hijackings, about one minute after they left the route in the flight plan. This is the system and i

[biofuel] Re: How's Come Berkely is the Hot Bed of Forward Thinking.

2004-07-05 Thread bioveging
Well Phil, don't feel too too left out, or too singled out either. When I went around getting contacts for my soon to be BD production and I asked if I could have some of their waste oil it was as though the concept was not just foreign but downright alien. They did authorise me to help myself

Fwd: Brian - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally, you should look back at what I said, because I made mention of transcripts ( more than once ), even if I didn't cite the source. But than again I'm not you, and we all do things differently. I doubt you have

[biofuel] Washington DC area: July 11 homebrew class, July 12th get-together after NBB meeting?

2004-07-05 Thread girl mark
Just re-posting some info about the homebrew class four of us are doing next weekend near DC, and also an invite to meet the next day: There's still space in the class, so any of you who can make it 'at the last minute' are welcome to come- just drop me an email so I can keep track of how much

Fwd: Brian - Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, I've been anxiously awaiting this question. I vote in every election in which I can. Primaries, local and national. I have been able to vote in five presidential elections. In these, I have voted for Republican candid

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree, that it was a break down from the bottom to the top, but, at least one of the aircraft turned off it's transponder, just before turning around. Air controllers thought it had blown up in mid-air because they we

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hakan, A question, are you looking at this through the eyes of someone from Europe, where hijackings and terrorism, have been more common place, or through the eyes of someone from the U.S. where they are rare in occ

Fwd: Brian - Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally, I would wait until I had the information before making claims. That way, if anyone questioned my sources, I would have them ready immediately, and not have to research what I claimed as absolute fact in the first place

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lets, think it through. Up to 9/11 hijackers didn't hijack to get a hold of a airliner in order to actually take out a building ( at least in the U.S. ), so why should this be any different than those times other that

Fwd: Todd - Re: [biofuel] generator/refrigerator

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Absolutely superb! And to think that we're still fiddlin' with Crosley's Icyball around here http://www.ggw.org/~cac/IcyBall/crosley_icyball.html http://www.ggw.org/~cac/IcyBall/HomeBuilt/HomeBuilt.html - Original

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Incorrect, I reported, what was mentioned at the time of the crash. I never heard what the final report was, and that was probably because I was out of the area at the time it finally came out and I don't think that it

Fwd: Schofield - Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pieter Sorry for the delay. The centrifuge is a Westfalia marine oil centrifuge with 1-phase 230V and 415V 3-phase motors, stainless steel disc stack. What are you offering? _

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Hakan Falk
Greg, You are mixing IFR/VFR rules and controlled versus non controlled air space. The check point rules you are talking about are completing a flight to uncontrolled air field / air space and in Sweden the time limit is 30 minutes after landing or reporting point. In this situation you have

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter

2004-07-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pieter Sorry for the delay. The centrifuge is a Westfalia marine oil centrifuge with 1-phase 230V and 415V 3-phase motors, stainless steel disc stack. What are you offering? ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messeng

[biofuel] Re: A quick question!

2004-07-05 Thread bioveging
Good day Colin, and welcome to the list. You will find all the information you need to make BD in small or large quantities at http://www.journeytoforever.org , the site attached to this list. There are numerous very competent people here that can help you with any further questions you will ha

[biofuel] generator/refrigerator

2004-07-05 Thread tallex2002
A GENERATOR THAT DOUBLES AS A REFRIGERATOR http://www.napa.ufl.edu/2001news/solar.htm UF professor generates new, cheaper solar energy system http://www.alligator.org/edit/issues/01-spring/010314/b09solar14.htm Optimization of a Novel Combined Power/Refrigeration Thermodynamic Cycle ht

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread canros_uk
Hello Greg Well, at least you have now read one report of the accident and that report makes no mention of heart attack. I can assure you that the NTSB report also makes no mention of a heart attack. The most important thing from my perspective is that you, when posting, give an impression o

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale

2004-07-05 Thread pieter van eeten
Hi Pieter, Got in tough with Breustedt last friday they ave me the name of their local distributors near Eindhoven so now I can finally start my first batch! Thanks for the help. You factory is a BD factory? >From: Pieter Koole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: biof

[biofuel] A quick question!

2004-07-05 Thread Colin Little
Hey guys, I'm new to this group and, as you might imagine, to the whole process of making Biodiesel! I'm planning on creating this fuel to benefit the educational facilities of our community and to promote alternative fuel usage in the community, thus creating a community that is more self-suffic

[biofuel] Spilling Modular Piston Expansion Engine

2004-07-05 Thread tallex2002
interesting. Spilling engine http://www.spilling.de/uk/spillingwerk.htm Spilling Modular Piston Expansion Engine http://www.epcenergy.com/spilling.html regards Get your daily alternative energy news fix http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ news-resource

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread MH
"The [U.S.] Army and Air Force Exchange Service, which books films to be shown on military bases around the world, has contacted Fahrenheitâs distributor to book the film, TIME reports." http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,660927,00.html Moore unfriendly fire bombs Bush

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread MH
A British General's View of Fahrenheit 9/11 General Sir Michael Rose, Former Commander of the UN Protection Force in Bosnia DAILY MAIL (London) / July 1, 2004 http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=47 I suspect many soldiers serving in Iraq today will find

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Greg Harbican
I have spent the majority of the day at church then at the hospital, just getting home little while ago, and now I'm dealing with the family. Do you think I have nothing better to do, than to answer one subject on one of several list I'm on? I'll get around to giving the answers, as I have tim

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Greg Harbican
You might be right in part: United Airlines flight 585 All it took was a Google search using Colorado Springs, airliner, and crash as the key words. http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-ua585.shtml NTSB finally ruled it was a rudder problem, but, heart attack and rotor were other possi

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread RICHARD BOGRAD
We never miss an election, local or otherwise. Why? - Original Message - From: "Benet P. Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 12:31 Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE > Seven min would have done what, made you feel better? HOW?I'm sure whoever > you w

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE; human fuel

2004-07-05 Thread Irwin Levinson
Halliluya The rage of those who hated and those who are outraged, about Fahrenheit 9/11 must awaken the the rage of those who called the Vietnam and Korean wars as projects of those administrations that fought and led them. Can it be that the US wars of the 20th Century were constructs of anti

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: Hakan Falk To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 04:11 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE Greg, You are right in general terms, but to claim that it would be possible that any of the planes could crash where they cras