Re: [Biofuel] Re:FOOD vS FUEL

2005-02-08 Thread bob allen
More than a little opinionated aren't you? I challenge you on your allegation of nuttiness. Prove your statement has any factual basis. For example your denigration of chelation is without factual knowledge. You write in the style of the keepers of the one true faith. I'm willing to bet your

Re: [Biofuel] Re:FOOD vS FUEL

2005-02-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
No opinions please Bob. I need something with substance not obfuscation and argumentum ad hominum. Are you to be trusted? Kirk Granted I gave you my opinion, based on what I think to be the best available scientific evidence, but there was no attempt on my part to cause any confusion or

Re: [Biofuel] Gobal Warming - Ice Buffering

2005-02-08 Thread dwoodard
Remember continental drift.In the past Antarctica was not at the South Pole, for example. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, Kirk McLoren wrote: Yes, there were tropical conditions in Montana at one time. Coal deposits in Antarctica. Since plants also suffer from high

Re: [Biofuel] Re:FOOD vS FUEL

2005-02-08 Thread bob allen
Kirk McLoren wrote: No opinions please Bob. I need something with substance not obfuscation and argumentum ad hominum. Are you to be trusted? Kirk Granted I gave you my opinion, based on what I think to be the best available scientific evidence, but there was no attempt on my

[Biofuel] Scentific Method (was FOOD vS FUEL)

2005-02-08 Thread Ken Provost
on 2/7/05 6:11 PM, bob allen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess we will just have to disagree on what is proof of efficacy. I will continue to rely on double blind studies. I always wonder myself whether the scientific method as we've come to know it hasn't narrowed itself a bit too

Re: [Biofuel] Re: New method for the production of home madebio-diesel

2005-02-08 Thread Fred Finch
I'm in the Twin Cities. It may be a road trip but worth it. fred On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 17:36:16 -0600, Anti-Fossil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You bet it's available Fred! What part of MN are you in? I'm in south central, very near Easton. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA -

Re: Swiss government: was Re: [Biofuel] OOPS (typo) -- sorry Kieth

2005-02-08 Thread dwoodard
Politicians tend to learn slowly, the hard way, as the New Zealanders found recently when they switched to proportional representation. After being corrected by the voters a few times, they change their ways. It's a bit like the legendary farmer with his Missouri mule and two-by-four. You have to

[Biofuel] CO2-driven Acidic Oceans

2005-02-08 Thread MH
We were all taught that the pH of the sea was a constant, he said. We are rather embarrassed to find out that is not the case... The Other CO2 Problem: Ocean Acidification Feb 05, 2005 http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/02/the_other_cosub.html Increasing levels of atmospheric

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-08 Thread desertstallion
Hi Robert, Sorry I was confused as to whose sister was whose! Just one further comment along these lines. I've been married now for about 20 years. We get along pretty well and I think we have a good understanding of what makes each other tick. BUT, sometimes I think my wife can run into

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-08 Thread desertstallion
Hi, I have to echo what Hakan has said, and what Keith has said on other occasions. With the exception of a few hotspots I find that people are pretty tolerant of others. As long as someone traveling realizes that the are a guest, and act as a guest, they are generally well accepted regardless

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-08 Thread Frantz DESPREZ
(...) Those cameras are everywhere here in the UK. On motorways they track you over bridge to over bridge and in urban areas they are on most traffic lights. Now some towns are using them to fine people for not wearing seat belts and stopping for a few seconds to let passengers out.

Re: [Biofuel] sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Mike, It is no wonder the rest of the world has lost all respect for our country (speaking to the American list members). I agree: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/050207/ids_photos_en/r2706473732.jpg I only wish that the photo was taken in the States to demonstrate our

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-08 Thread Greg Harbican
My wife is a claims adjuster for one of the largest private insurance companies here in the US ( one of the reasons that I don't worry about my driving.I would never hear the end of it if I messed up. LOL ), and last night I thought to ask her about the black boxes. It took me 10 min. of

Re: [Biofuel] sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
Americans have contributed to a poor image for some time. Ignorant and arrogant. A sense of self righteousness that surpasses understanding. More than once I had to produce my passport to convince people I was a US citizen. You are too polite to be an American was what I heard. I saw my fellow

Re: [Biofuel] sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-08 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Kirk, ...well put! I have also noticed stark contrast at passport control. Clean, unambiguous and polite in most other countries while our points of entry in the US feature poor communications and shouts in American slang (experienced in JFK and Newark) as if being herded through like

Re: [Biofuel] sometimes anger can motivate

2005-02-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Kirk, This is not a nationality issue, almost all nationalities have a tendency to misbehave on vacations. This especially if they go to a country that they can look at as less developed. I see this every summer season and when the tourist drink too much, it many times I had to be ashamed of my

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-08 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box : : That is because the loop is only that long and old data is written over. There is no reason max values cannot be

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-08 Thread Doug Younker
Well... Cameras are used to control traffic signals. This is not to say they couldn't have dual or even multiple purpose uses. What isn't funny is how petty thieves will screw up a good thing and end up paying more. Doug - Original Message - From: Anti-Fossil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box

2005-02-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
It is simple camera technique. Sufficient IR has to be available to saturate the imaging device. The sensitivity of the camera has been set by average ambient conditions. You can use a digital camera to observe the technique. I suggest you review the law to see if it is unadvisable in your

Re: [Biofuel] Bill Moyers: There Is No Tomorrow

2005-02-08 Thread Doug Younker
I did view the NOW program on this topic, Demian is correct Bill Moyers is only the messenger in his Star Tribune article. I wished Moyers would have spoke more on the point that very few members of the mainstream Christian denominations share the radicalism of the Evangelicals, perhaps the