Re: [Biofuel] Using Pex?

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
Luke, PEX should work OK, but the life span would depend on what it is exposed to. It is not good for long term outdoor use as UV breaks it down after several months in the sun. Also, it probably won't last too long if used for straight sodium methoxide or high strength sodium hydroxide service,

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials oflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
This is an open question with some new thoughts regarding this topic. I was flying today and just before take off the stewardess was going through the emergency details and when she got to the breathing oxygen part I though of this recent discussion. It dawned on me that there is some oxygen onb

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread D. Mindock
Mike, You are overlooking that Building 7, not hit by any plane, collapsed in the same controlled manner as the towers. Also the momentum energy of the planes would've been spread over a couple hundred feet. The stoppage was not instantaneous. And the towers were designed for impact by larg

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials oflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, If it follows the rules for the pilots, it should be enough for 30 minutes. The rules say that over a certain level it must be 30 minutes for the pilots and over next specified level also for the passengers. It is a lot of oxygen. Hakan At 08:56 08/04/2006, you wrote: >This is an open

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Fritz, Belgium is for beer what France is for vine, it is no country in the world that has more variants and better average beer quality. Some beers in other countries are outstanding, like some vine in other countries, but Belgium is the country of beer and France is the country of vine. Whe

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials oflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, This is the emergency oxygen, the comes to this the oxygen for the normal pressurized cabin. This is probably depending on the flight and those reserves. Hakan At 11:19 08/04/2006, you wrote: >Mike, > >If it follows the rules for the pilots, it should be enough for 30 >minutes. The rul

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Gary L. Green
Yes!  So true.On 8 Apr 2006, at 17:11, Hakan Falk wrote:When it comes to vine, nothing beats the Spanish average quality. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biof

[Biofuel] Garrison Keillor on Bush II

2006-04-08 Thread D. Mindock
Garrison Keillor, Tribune Media Services Published March 15, 2006 Spring arrived in New York last week for previews, a sunny day with chill in the air, but you could smell mud, and with a little imagination you could sort of smell grass. I put on a gray jacket, instead o

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hi Gary, god adds the yeast anyway what a good brewmaster is doeing is only refine it lol Fritz - Original Message - From: Gary L. Green To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 2:04 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Suspended deliv

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hakan, you are touching a very fine nerv in me now! Have you ever seen Hopsgardens in Belgium?But you can see them in Lower Bavaria and the Bavarians let them Belgians have a bit the Leftovers,what the dont need for their own Beer and ther is still the Question of the Purity to answer bei th

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Fritz, I have been many times in Beergarten in Munich, very historical. I love the Munich Oktoberfest and the ambiance, been there many times. The beer they brew for the Oktoberfest is quite special. However, Belgium have the largest varieties of beers, especially dark, and they love to make

Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming

2006-04-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Randall >Here is an interesting article on the BBC website...kinda helps >reinforce the "...damned if you do, damned if you don't..." feeling >a lot of people have... Maybe there might be another reason they think that, if indeed they do think that. See below, eg, or several tons of stuf

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Michael Redler
Oh crap!   Clear the room! There's gonna be trouble!   I would have preferred a much more civilized topic - like SOCCER.   MikeHakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fritz,I have been many times in Beergarten in Munich, very historical. I love the Munich Oktoberfest and the ambiance, been the

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Gary L. Green
Okay but don't tell it to the guy whose job it is to pitch the wort.  Could get god into trouble with the union.On  08Apr, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Fritz Friesinger wrote:god adds the yeast anyway what a good brewmaster is doeing is only refine it___ Biofuel mai

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hakan, you are absolutly rigth,since the Water is so polluted in old Europe i am now in northern Quebec to start the Job there! Just a joke i appreciate the purity of my very own Lakes and have seen the proove again a couple of days ago,when i discovered how good my Solmontrouts came over th

Re: [Biofuel] off-topic [Hydroponic gardening]

2006-04-08 Thread I. S.
Hi Keith, I completely agree. I was just thinking about the poor guy who had to haul 5-gallon buckets of soil up to the top of his roof. If you had absolutely no other choice( say you lived in a high rise and just had a little window space) the system I described is the friendliest potted-plant

Re: [Biofuel] the end of big biodiesel?

2006-04-08 Thread I. S.
I have to point out here, I've encountered just as many dishonest and greedy small businesspeople as I have dishonest and greedy large corporations. I rather work with a large group of ethical and dedicated people, perhaps organized into an employee-owned corporation, then I would with some of the

Re: [Biofuel] Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Keith Addison
>Okay but don't tell it to the guy whose job it is to pitch the wort. >Could get god into trouble with the union. Do they pitch the worst in soccer? I thought that was baseball. -K >On 08Apr, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Fritz Friesinger wrote: > >>god adds the yeast anyway what a good brewmaster is doei

[Biofuel] Biofuels Movement Is A Scam That Needs To Be Stopped

2006-04-08 Thread Alan Petrillo
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/04/08/Opinion/Biofuels_movement_is_.shtml Someone please educate this idiot. AP ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Jou

Re: [Biofuel] Garrison Keillor on Bush II

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
A quote from the end says: Let's bring the boys home. Otherwise, let's send this man back to Texas and see what sort of work he is capable of and let him start making a contribution to    the world. However, this Texan would rather see him sent to Iraq to fight his own war. We

Re: [Biofuel] off-topic [Hydroponic gardening]

2006-04-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Peter >Hi Keith, > >I completely agree. I was just thinking about the >poor guy who had to haul 5-gallon buckets of soil up >to the top of his roof. :-) But just think of all the great veggies he'd haul down again, with gravity on his side! >If you had absolutely no >other choice( say you l

Re: [Biofuel] the end of big biodiesel?

2006-04-08 Thread Keith Addison
>I have to point out here, I've encountered just as >many dishonest and greedy small businesspeople as I >have dishonest and greedy large corporations. I >rather work with a large group of ethical and >dedicated people, perhaps organized into an >employee-owned corporation, then I would with some

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lyingabout 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
"D. Mindock" wrote:  Mike,You are overlooking that Building 7, not hit by any plane, collapsed in the same controlled manner as the towers. OK, I will have to read up on building 7.   Also the momentum energy of the planes would've been spread over a couple hundred feet. The stoppage wasnot inst

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officialsoflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
Hakan, Great, Thanks! If we can come up with an O2 flow rate needed per person we could do some calcs and what-if-ing. Also, I know a few pilots here, I will ask them if they know how big the supply is? Mike McGinness Hakan Falk wrote: > Mike, > > If it follows the rules for the pilots, it sho

[Biofuel] Documentation on Wood Properties

2006-04-08 Thread Michael Redler
I found some good documentation on wood at the USDA Forrest Service.   Properties of wood:   http://tinyurl.com/oyyd5   or   http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr113/ch04.pdf#search='mechanical%20properties%20of%20wood'   Publications list: http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/document-lis

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lyingabout 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread Mike Weaver
And the towers were designed for impact by large aircraft. I read an interview with the architect - he said the buildings were designed to withstand a hot from the planes of the time the towers were built; these planes were smaller and carried less fuel. In typical list fashion, I don't rememebr

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-08 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Mike, Friday, 07 April, 2006, 20:04:32, you wrote: MW> Uh, Yeah. Dude. MW> We had all these great ideas, then we got really stoned and it MW> drifted away. Actually brother, money entered the picture and the better portion of us just melded into the system. Seems like somehow folk

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-08 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: > But it IS exactly earth-shattering. :-) > > Down to the gravel dust (lots of minerals), an earth-shattering > rototiller, worms that shatter bits of rock in their gut to help > grind up the other stuff for the microbugs to eat and mineralising it > at the same time, and

[Biofuel] [Fwd: [IP] Is the US preparing to bomb Iran?]

2006-04-08 Thread Marty Phee
Original Message Subject:[IP] Is the US preparing to bomb Iran? Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:43:42 -0400 From: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ip@v2.listbox.com References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Begin forwarded message: Fr

[Biofuel] April 3, 2006 issue of Time Magazine

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
Greetings all, I am not a reader of Time, but I was waiting for my flight and picked it up at the newsstand as the cover page, and nearly the entire issue was all about global warming. Most of the rest of it was about the US Immigration debate in Washington, Republican congressmen distancing them

Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials oflyingabout 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
Thanks Mike, I seem to recall the same thing, architect interview, but on a recent PBS broadcast on the topic. Probably why I thought the size of the planes made a bigger difference, or a bigger impact . Best Mike McGinness "D. Mindock" wrote: > And the towers were designed for impact by larg

Re: [Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
Keith, Greetings from Houston Texas. I respect your opinion and point of view on the topic of corporations, but I see a little bit different perspective on corporations. But first let me agree that many large and small corporations do commit criminal acts, many of which they get away with, which

[Biofuel] New American Bumper stickers

2006-04-08 Thread Mike McGinness
A friend of mine sent me this today. Thought many of you would appreciate some of them. And, perhaps there is hope in 2006!! I am seeing a strong movement here in the USA to replace the republicans THIS year! There seem to be dozens of issues getting current media attention that are creating

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Garrison Keillor on Bush II

2006-04-08 Thread Gary L. Green
Speaking of beer, and I was, ... Mike, I read they are going into bars and arresting people for being drunk. Pre-crime. I never thought I'd see it in my life time. On 09Apr, 2006, at 2:40 AM, Mike McGinness wrote: > However, this Texan would rather see him sent to Iraq to fight his > ow

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lyingabout 9/11

2006-04-08 Thread Gary L. Green
But can't you just hear that annoying Dubya voice saying:Them towers have GOT to come down.  If their still standin' then they can be fixed or ignored or sumthin'.  They won't be the symbol we need.  Make sure them towers come DOWN!On  09Apr, 2006, at 5:29 AM, Mike Weaver wrote:And the towers were

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Suspended delivery

2006-04-08 Thread Gary L. Green
Sports ya know, I just don't get it.People spend money, waste energy, waste time, sitting on their collective asses watching millionaires get some exercise and racking up imaginary points that mean nothing at the end of the day.  No one is helped, nothing is built, no real good is done.I am gui

Re: [Biofuel] April 3, 2006 issue of Time Magazine

2006-04-08 Thread Jason & Katie
Oh, wahoo. wally-world to save the day. i doubt it. they will make a big show to convince their opposition that they are doing the good deed and then when everyone believes it they will flip the switch on the whole deal when noone is looking. cant see the flashlight go out in the daytime, y'know

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: More Gardening News

2006-04-08 Thread Gary L. Green
Huh?  Us Americans?  Who dat?You speak as if we / they were a unified whole.Definitely NOT.I was born into it.  By choice I left, not that it really makes any difference.  My tax money?  If they didn't have a single tax payer left all they'd have to do is go to the Federal Reserve (it aint federal

Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: [IP] Is the US preparing to bomb Iran?]

2006-04-08 Thread Jason & Katie
>"Saving Iran is going > to be his legacy." I seem to remember hearing that before "Our thousand year legacy...The Third Reich shall save the world from impurity." problem is, it only lasted about 15 and then they got some severe smackdown handed to them.I'm glad I live in the middle of nowh

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-08 Thread Jason & Katie
>(I haven't >grown decent melons yet!) Do you have any sand? melons need a relatively damp loose sandy soil. have you ever heard of muskmelons? they are a variant of canteloupe that is grown in a town about 8 mi from where i grew up called Muscatine, and they get volunteers out of some of the

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-08 Thread robert luis rabello
Jason & Katie wrote: > Do you have any sand? No. I have lots of clay beneath the topsoil I've built up, but no sand. > melons need a relatively damp loose sandy soil. have > you ever heard of muskmelons? they are a variant of canteloupe that is grown > in a town about 8 mi from where

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-08 Thread Jason & Katie
hello robert, i am from the midwest of america. the best landmark i can think of is a stretch of the Mississippi River that runs East to West on the map. that stretch of river is surrounded by a little-known place called the quad cities. a bit to the southwest, right at the transition from E-W

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-08 Thread robert luis rabello
Gary L. Green wrote: > Huh? Us Americans? Who dat? Ok Gary. For ME, as an American, some of the discussion gets a little hard to hear. robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.sha

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-08 Thread robert luis rabello
Jason & Katie wrote: > hello robert, > > i am from the midwest of america. If you'd said "Iowa", I'd have enough of an idea! When I think of Iowa, I think of corn, soybeans and hogs. The coastal regions of the Pacific Northwest are characterized by heavy rainfall for most of

Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News

2006-04-08 Thread Jason & Katie
sorry, i guess its a bad habit i have, assuming noone pays attention to Iowa but the Iowans. - Original Message - From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] More Gardening News > Jason & Katie wrote: > >> hello robert