[Biofuel] GM Food: A Guide for the Confused

2006-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:10:48 EDT GM Food: A Guide for the Confused Our thanks to UK campaigner and lecturer Luke Anderson, geneticist Dr Michael Antoniou, and Prof Joe Cummins, Professor Emeritus of Genetics at the University of Western Ontario, for helping us through

[Biofuel] The Dilbert Phenomenon

2006-08-30 Thread Bob Molloy
I thought we needed a little light relief: not sure how accurately the following quotes reflect corporate America but the Dilbert phenomenon isn't totally unknown in this corner of corporate Australasia.   Regards, Bob.   A magazine recently ran a "Dilbert Quotes" contest. They were looking

Re: [Biofuel] Google's filtering segue into Iran

2006-08-30 Thread DHAJOGLO
Dubious indeed. I tried "Apple Pie" and immediatly noticed that, while both sides were the same set of links, the chinese side had all of their stuff encoded with weird characters of little lines in strange shapes. haha... But all jokes aside, this does underscore that the internet is now a c

Re: [Biofuel] HURRICANE EXPERT THREATENED FOR PRE-KATRINA WARNINGS

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Zeke,     Bush did not win the last election. He stole it. Welcome to the Banana Republic of America. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] see firsthand the extent of Google's filtering

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Kirk,    Wow, I wonder how many people know that even our homeland Google appears to be tilted? Our media is filtered so I guess it should be no surprise. I know there are groups putting out disinformation. E.g., lots of stuff backing up BushCo's official rendition of 9/11. So if a person

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they?

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
Sanitation produced the results vaccine takes the credit for. Polio numbers were dropping before Salk vaccine. And lets not forget more SV40 virus is in Polio vaccine than polio virii. No double blind study to "prove" it but allegations are made that SV40 produces brain and kidney cancer. Is the c

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread robert and benita rabello
Jason & Katie wrote: >i have seen some very foolish things in the local school districts here >in the kansas city area. people cry because their kid is not doing well >in school, and they say the district needs more money to help fix the >problem and help pay for a better education. and this is wh

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [12VDC_Power] CFL article

2006-08-30 Thread Jason & Katie
my family refers to them as helix lamps, and i have one in every incandescent fixture in the house (15 and a spare) On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 12:16 -0600, Zeke Yewdall wrote: > That's the first time I've heard the term ice-cream bulb. I agree > they've come a long way. The first one I bought was $35

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread Jason & Katie
i have seen some very foolish things in the local school districts here in the kansas city area. people cry because their kid is not doing well in school, and they say the district needs more money to help fix the problem and help pay for a better education. and this is where i come in. i install t

Re: [Biofuel] Who would win a debate on world issues between President Bush and Iranian President Ahmadinejad?

2006-08-30 Thread fox mulder
Source: cnn http://edition.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/27030.exclude.html Who would win a debate on world issues between President Bush and Iranian President Ahmadinejad? Results of the survey at the moment of sending this e-mail: Bush 37% 41043 votes Ahmadinejad 63% 70175 votes T

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they?

2006-08-30 Thread bob allen
no flames here Kirk, just looking for reality Kirk McLoren wrote: > Yes but voicing such opinions usually draws more flames than politics do. > > I was fortunate enough to read the original debates re Jenner and the > smallpox innoculation. > He was not using cowpox. He was using something -"gr

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [12VDC_Power] CFL article

2006-08-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall
That's the first time I've heard the term ice-cream bulb.   I agree they've come a long way.  The first one I bought was $35, and was about three times the size of a regular bulb.  And it's still working  Now whenever someone moves into a new house or apartment, buy a ten pack of the 15 watt sp

[Biofuel] Fwd: [12VDC_Power] CFL article

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
 CFL articlehttp://www.realtechnews.com/posts/3433 Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/b

Re: [Biofuel] Biowar for Dummies

2006-08-30 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Oil?  Why not go straight to biodiesel?  A PhD candidate in India or Switzerland is probably already a year into it...Hopefully...Kinda brings new meaning to grow your own, huh?On 8/30/06, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: a single base pair of DNA runs about a buck to make.   Ok folks

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they?

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
Yes but voicing such opinions usually draws more flames than politics do.   I was fortunate enough to read the original debates re Jenner and the smallpox innoculation. He was not using cowpox. He was using something -"grease" - from horses heels.   After Parliament mandated mandatory innocula

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread robert and benita rabello
Michael Redler wrote: I read all the responses initiated by the Illich quote. (IMO) Kirk is one of the few who really gets it.     If you're coming into this with the preconceived notion that "public schools are bad", then no amount of reason will dissuade you.   Claims of “the pro

Re: [Biofuel] HURRICANE EXPERT THREATENED FOR PRE-KATRINA WARNINGS

2006-08-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall
They are using this same approach to global climate change1) Deny that it could happen, in the face of scientific consensus, statistical analysis, proof to the alternative, etc.2) And then, continue to deny it, even as it happens. And remember Bush won the last election based on people trusting him

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread afonque
Hi,   the big problem was always for me that _expression_: " I read, or I heard or I saw in a film"I say it based on my own experience.I was suffering due to the same kind of thinking that without knowing it I learnd at university...but when I was confronted with the reality of looking

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread M&K DuPree
Hi Bob...I suppose there is a solace one finds in remaining skeptical of anything we do not associate with "the way things are."  The real question is what is the way things are?  Or just exactly how ARE things?  It appears to me that as a species (not even sure that is an accurate word to u

Re: [Biofuel] see firsthand the extent of Google's filtering

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
I tried Palestine war as my 2 search words I got http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=1&subID=682   on the Chinese one and not on ours.   Weird. Almost like filtering in both directions.   Kirk "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: China has earned the dubious distinction as

Re: [Biofuel] homeschool was 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
Ufda Upon rereading it is 20% of the privately schooled population. Thanks for catching that before I used it again.   Kirkbob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I checked with a colleague in the school of education. In Arkansas where I bet we have a relatively high number of home schoolers for

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread bob allen
I checked with a colleague in the school of education. In Arkansas where I bet we have a relatively high number of home schoolers for fear of the teaching of godless evolution, as of July 2005 13,973 home schooled students in a total population of about 453,000 or 13,973/453,000

Re: [Biofuel] HURRICANE EXPERT THREATENED FOR PRE-KATRINA WARNINGS

2006-08-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall
This is the same attitude that BushCo is taking towards global climate change.  Deny the problem in the face of scientific consensus, statistical analysis pointing to possibility of disaster, and still deny it even as the disaster happens. ZOn 8/30/06, D. Mindock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The more

[Biofuel] Biowar for Dummies

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
a single base pair of DNA runs about a buck to make.   Ok folks lets build that sunlight to oil converter.Kirkhttp://www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0682.html?printable=1 All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. __

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
I do a bit of hypnotherapy from time to time (I am ACHE certified). I have seen profound sudden changes. Belief seems to be the factor. It is written "If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; a

Re: [Biofuel] "healer" was34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
Yes, Bob I agree -yet what is happening often results in healing. Instead of using hypnosis induction and deepening and so on which can take some time you instead create a new "reality" that the observer internalizes. As quickly as that something happens and it doesnt occur to the same depth in al

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread bob allen
D. Mindock wrote: > Hi Zeke, >I have heard stories too of sudden healings. And if you have read of > Arigo, a healer of Brazil (died in a car accident), these things can be > very real. or not He would do eye operations, very quickly, with a pen knife. As > far as I know he always was succes

Re: [Biofuel] hidden price gouging

2006-08-30 Thread Joe Street
LOL LOL LOL of course.  I didn't consider that. It is so obvious when you follow the money trail isn't it.  Strange how everything makes sense when you just understand that someone in the story has to be greedy! Joe Jason & Katie wrote: in canada the fuel companies were crying because the

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread bob allen
yep, but I'm an Ozark's http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Ozark+mountains&spell=1%3E Mike Weaver wrote: > Yeah, but ain't you from Arkinsaw? > > -Mike Weaver (*/Ouachita/* mountains >

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread Michael Redler
I read all the responses initiated by the Illich quote. (IMO) Kirk is one of the few who really gets it.   Claims of “the problem” being social or a result of religious dogma has merit. However, when considering that public schools follow policies set by the same government that have also embrace

Re: [Biofuel] Descent into barbarism

2006-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Power of pride. D. Mindock wrote: > "The point of public relations slogans like "Support our troops" is that > they don't mean anything... That's the whole point of good propaganda. You > want to create a slogan that nobody's going to be against, and everybody's > going to be for. Nobody knows wh

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they?

2006-08-30 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Good article. I once located a site that charted the rise and fall of dis-ease and overlaid that chart with a chart showing when vaccinates came into play .. very, very interesting. A very extensive site with many articles and charts. It showed that a particular dis-ease has an actual "rise ..

[Biofuel] HURRICANE EXPERT THREATENED FOR PRE-KATRINA WARNINGS

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
The more you learn about the Bush regime the more that you realize the depth of the fraud perpetrated onto the American people. It is beyond anything imaginable. How can it be so bad? BushCo is a light sucking black hole. Peace, D. Mindock = HURRICANE EXPERT THREATE

[Biofuel] pet chipping

2006-08-30 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Sorry .. this is off topic for many .. but this concept is extremely important for everyone .. this needs to be stopped NOW!! Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual T

[Biofuel] Descent into barbarism

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
"The point of public relations slogans like "Support our troops" is thatthey don't mean anything... That's the whole point of good propaganda. Youwant to create a slogan that nobody's going to be against, and everybody'sgoing to be for. Nobody knows what it means, because it doesn't meananyt

[Biofuel] see firsthand the extent of Google's filtering

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
China has earned the dubious distinction as the world leader in filtering Internet content. The Chinese state-run Internet censoring system is without parallel, both in the technical sophistication of the filtering apparatus and in the breadth of topics subject to blocking. To see firsthand the

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel advice

2006-08-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Edro, >1/ On a 80 liter WVO batch I use 18 liters of Methanol with the required >amount of KOH, and I extract around 15 liters of glycerine. After the >required washes (mechanical stirwash) I have around 70 liters of biodiesel. >Does the above figures sound normal? Shouldn't the biodiesel be m

[Biofuel] The fallacy of war

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
  From Bud Deraps of IOW. I like this little essay as it highlights how we have bypassed Christ on our way to preemptive war. It also shows how much of a hypocrite our war president is.  Peace, D. Mindock Just War Does God support war? From before the Crusades until the present day leade

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Mike,   Lots of folks feel that something big (unexplainable) is about to happen. I feel that too at times. I am an odd mix of skeptical thinker and wannabee believer of other ways to view the world. But as time moves on I am moving to the believer side. Believer of things the eye can't s

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread M&K DuPree
Hi D...Hi Zeke...what if? sometimes it seems to be such a stupid question, until we are confronted personally with what seems to be the unexplainable, but unexplainable only in terms (and experience) we have previously used to explain our experience.  I might also ask, who was doing the expl

Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Zeke, I have heard stories too of sudden healings. And if you have read of Arigo, a healer of Brazil (died in a car accident), these things can be very real. He would do eye operations, very quickly, with a pen knife. As far as I know he always was successful. He had long lines of people eve

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they?

2006-08-30 Thread D. Mindock
Yo Kirk,   Very enlightening article. Mucho gracias! Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vaccines: How deadly are they? http://www.proliberty.com/observer