Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization Revisited

2005-03-03 Thread Phillip Wolfe
> impact on the environment, but IMO putting one above > the other is counter > productive. > Doug > - Original Message - > From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:49 AM &

Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-03 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
Well, I am not sure about your second point. Soil is built or made, since most of the land that was once rich is now depleted. If you are talking about each adult having their own farm, then no, we don't have enough land. But if each adult had their own plot, they would never get the work

Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-02 Thread Keith Addison
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization : Greetings, : : I think our definitions of what is rural and what is urban need to be : straightened out. If you live in a tow

Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-02 Thread Doug Younker
ED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization : Greetings, : : I think our definitions of what is rural and what is urban need to be : straightened out. If you live in a town, on an ordinary lot, in a single : family home, you live a

Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-02 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
AntiFossil Mike Krafka USA Greetings Mike, Actually I am listing urban as a place that has lots of rules. Rural can do for oneself. I live outside of a small town, don't know how many people. They just incorporated around a year ago although the town was established in 1832 in the provi

Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-02 Thread Anti-Fossil
AntiFossil Mike Krafka USA - Original Message - From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization > Greetings, > > I think o

Re: [Biofuel] "End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-02 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
for their ideas. Where I live, you used to be able to get 3 acres and a 1200 square foot shell house for $18,600 with $1000 down and payments of $183 per month. No credit check, no id required. The reality is that we attracted many of the worst kind of people to the area. Theft skyrocketed

Re: [Biofuel] "End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-02 Thread Keith Addison
The New York Times > Opinion > OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR Empty House on the Prairie By BOB GREENE Published: March 2, 2005 Chicago IF you and your family would like to move to Crosby, N.D., not only will the town give you a free plot of land on which to build your house, they'll also throw in a fr

Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-02 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
I think our definitions of what is rural and what is urban need to be straightened out. If you live in a town, on an ordinary lot, in a single family home, you live an urban lifestyle, no matter where it is. The reason I say this, is because only small lots require water and waste treatme

Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-03-01 Thread Doug Younker
ctfully please don't perpetuate the myth about the big bad public works. Privatize you may see any savings to be had going off as profit to some far off investor instead of employing a neibor. Doug From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:52

Re: [Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-02-27 Thread Keith Addison
I like cities (depending on the city). I like the rural life too, I really don't know which I prefer. Both, I suppose. Some comments below... Pannir, I feel the same as you. The big cities ruin the ecology. The whole premis that millions of people should live jam packed in a city is wron

[Biofuel] End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-02-27 Thread mkmiller
Pannir, I feel the same as you. The big cities ruin the ecology. The whole premis that millions of people should live jam packed in a city is wrong. Cities artificially compensate for the massive overtaxing of the ecology by building waste water treatment plants, storm water run off systems,

Re: [Biofuel] "End of Suburbia" and Ruralization

2005-02-26 Thread Pannir P.V
Kim Greetings All the overcrowed urban , the place in MEGA City become much expensive, ecologically destructive , the under developed suburban areas having less people.These suburban place around the city can be used make food, fuel , feed needed for the urban city. But the