during my learning process i blended a liter of 10% petrol diesel with
90% biodisel that i had made. after 2 weeks of sitting in a bottle on
the shelf, the petrol diesel settled to the bottom. is this normal over
time? did i not mix thoroughly enough?
r. allison
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As I see it,
In any chemical reaction that uses a catalyst to expedite the reaction,
the best way to get the best possible conversion would be to expose the
product to be reacted or changed to the as much of the catalyst and
reactants at the same time as possible. ( within molar
proportions/pro
I dont think so given a steady atmosphere I dont know why they wouldn't
separate. I have seen Bio gel into snowflakes amidst # 1 diesel. even
thought they mix well that does not go to say that over time they won't
separate either.
Jim
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What would happen if I tried mixing WVO with standard fossil-diesel?
Would the two mix and stay mixed? And what would the viscosity be
like?
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Wondering if anyone can help me with this one. I am trying to source a pump
that can handle the whole mixing job for the methoxide. Presently I have to
switch the portable mixer between the methoxide tank and the reaction tank and
I also have to keep the lid to the methoxide tank open when mi
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Hello everyone,
I did couple of 1L batches and I am about to get it right I was
wondering for how long did you guys keep the blender or the mixer on ?
thanks for the help
Juan
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Hello People,
I got different kinds of providers of oil (virgin Oil, waste oil, and
animal tallow) I was wondering whether I could make one big mix and
process it together. Of course, doing the right titration process and
filtering the waste oil and animal tallow.
could it be done?
Thanks
Ju
has anyone tried using a pump to mix the catalyst itself? i have 3 small
pumps laying around and planned to use 2 for the oil mixing and moving, but
wondered if i could use the 3rd for mixing the catalyst more quickly. it
wont be a very big system (1 or 2L), but i wanted to mess with
configurat
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> What would happen if I tried mixing WVO with standard fossil-diesel?
> Would the two mix and stay mixed? And what would the viscosity be
> like?
>
>
>
>
> Biofuel at Journey to Fo
What would happen if I tried mixing WVO with standard fossil-diesel?
Would the two mix and stay mixed? And what would the viscosity be
like?
I've been running a 1987 Land Rover 110 on a 50/50 blend for about
10,000 km and a 1995 1Mercedes E300 TD on 100% WVO for 4.000
km. The Landy has no
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>
> What would happen if I tried mixing WVO with standard fossil-diesel?
> Would the two mix and stay mixed? And what would the viscosity be
> like?
> I've been
James
I am very new to this, so I am fascinated to hear of your practical experience
- real world experience and facts are most helpful to someone who is about to
try this out . . . albeit nervously.
I am currently researching the use of WVO as we are maybe facing a cold winter
with perhaps
If you use the 1 step process and seperate
out soaps, can you treat the soaps and convert them
to Bio-D?
I know that you can in the 2 step process but that
is before you form soaps?
T
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I am considering initially using a small tractor genset for stand-alone
power generation, and then perhaps on a diesel vehicle/car..
Sorry, no experience on gensets.
>From my understanding to date . . . Heating is obviously vitally
important, and also perhaps in the filtering.
I hav
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James
I am considering initially using a small tractor genset for stand-alone
power generation, and then perhaps on a diesel vehicle/car..
Sorry, no experience on gensets
o size the pump.
Both company's products should be readily available world wide.
www.marchpump.com
http://www.marchpump.com/pump.htm
and
www.littlegiant.com
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> At minimum you would also want the drive motor enclosure to be TEFC, fan
> cooled, continuous duty and preferable thermal overload protected.
Pardon my ignorance but wouldn't, "totally enclosed, fan cooled" be an
oxymoron?
t; (totally enclosed) isolating any spark
source from the external atmosphere.
Todd Swearingen
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> > wouldn't, "totally enclosed, fan cooled" be an
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Paul,
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A question for any experts:At the biodiesel plant where i work, we make
biodiesel fromWVO collected from Las Vegas casinos.We make it in 1500 gallon
batches.during the 1st base, we mix it for 1 hour before allowing it to settle
before removing glycerine. My question is this .Is one hour too lon
I haven't a pump and probably wouldn't know what to do with one if I
did, so I am going with a drill which I can get. Question is what
kind of apparatus do I use as a mixing blade(s)in a 20 liter
processor?
Once I get this one answered I should have a pretty good idea of
where I ma going and c
I have the best results when I let my
blender run about 45 minutes. I think you get a better reaction that way.
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Juan,
Yup. All day and night long. Even with your eyes closed.
Todd Swearingen
> Hello People,
>
> I got different kinds of providers of oil (virgin Oil, waste oil, and
> animal tallow) I was wondering whether I could make one big mix and
> process it together. Of course, doing the right titr
Be curious to hear how this works - I need a better MoX mixing system
now that I'm ramping up.
-Weaver
Jason& Katie wrote:
>has anyone tried using a pump to mix the catalyst itself? i have 3 small
>pumps laying around and planned to use 2 for the oil mixing and moving, but
>wondered if i coul
What is the problem with using a stirring motor? Dude think about what
you are suggesting. What if you spring a leak on the outlet side of the
pump somewhere? Do you really want to be spraying that Sh** around your
place? Tink about it.
Joe
Jason& Katie wrote:
> has anyone tried using a pum
08, 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] mixing ethoxide (again)
> What is the problem with using a stirring motor? Dude think about what
> you are suggesting. What if you spring a leak on the outlet side of the
> pump somewhere? Do you really want to be spraying that Sh** around your
> p
TED]>To: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:49 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] mixing ethoxide (again)> What
is the problem with using a stirring motor? Dude think about what> you are suggesting. What if you spring a leak on the outlet side of the> pump somewhere? Do you really want to be spraying
hello,
>
>can biodisel be mixed with gasoline, and used in a gasoline engine?
>
>would a 1% to 20 % work?
>
>would this mix work in 2 cycle engines?
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My first question to members is: has anybody used waste vegetable
oil, without filtering, for heating up batches of WVO for
processing? Would this work, or would it be like an uncontrolled
grease fire? I think I remember seeing someone trying this, but it
was somewhat controlled. The secon
Hello all,
I'd like to ask anyone on some clarification on how the 1" clear
water pump is used in mixing the oil with sodium methoxide.
>I haven't a pump and probably wouldn't know what to do with one if I
>did, so I am going with a drill which I can get. Question is what
>kind of apparatus do I use as a mixing blade(s)in a 20 liter
>processor?
Paint stirrer.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html
Simple 5-gallon
I am setting up my processor and want to use a pump
to mix. What type and size of pump would be suitable for 15-20 gallon
batch. Does it have to be resistant to methanol and lye mix as well as fry
oil? Also when using an immersion heater for the heat source is is
critical that it also be r
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of fluid oscillations and baffle inserts ... OFM is particularly
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Subject: [biofuel] mixing biodisel with gasoline
hello,
>
>can biodisel be mixed with gasoline, and used in a gasoline engine?
>
>would a 1% to 20 % work?
>
>would this mix work in 2 cycle engines?
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> hello,
> >
> >can biodisel be mixed with gasoline, and used in a gasoline engine?
>
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 06:47 am, Steve Spence wrote:
> although 1% might not hurt anything, it surely wouldn't benefit. wrong
> characteristics for spark ignited engines. high cetane, low octane.
Can you crack BD and make a more petrol like material? (In the lab?)
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Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:26 PM
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> On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 06:47 am, Steve Spence wrote:
> > although 1% might not hurt anything, it surely wouldn't benefit. wrong
> &
: [biofuel] mixing biodisel with gasoline
hello,
>
>can biodisel be mixed with gasoline, and used in a gasoline engine?
>
>would a 1% to 20 % work?
>
>would this mix work in 2 cycle engines?
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> - Original Message -
> From: buffaloman16362
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:30 PM
> Subject: [biofuel] mixing biodisel with gasoline
>
>
> hello,
> >
> >can biodis
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:31, you wrote:
> You would probably ruin the bearings in a two stroke, using bio-fuel,
> because the oil mixed with the fuel is there for lubrication of the
> bearings..
>
> Ed
Biodiesel is an oil. Some have used it for 2 stroke lube.
Doug
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:01, you wrote:
> From my experience, you have to use a "use specific" 2 stroke oil in a two
> stroke. I have ruined one lawn mower by using the wrong oil, a descision
> based on bad advice.
>
> Chain saws are supposed to be even more pickey about what oil they get.
> Use th
e.
>
> Steve Spence
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> From: "buffaloman16362" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RME/CME and, to a lesser extent, soy methyl ester (SME) and
other-feedstock biodiesel provides outstanding lubrication. Also some
very excellent lubricants are already being formulated and sold that
are based on vegetable oils, without conversion to esters. Blends of
the two (oils and esters)
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:48:58 +0900, you wrote:
>http://www.progress.org/2003/iraq12.htm
Great article. I love getting the straight poop from a spook.
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hi everybody,
i produced biodiesel in the laboratory with high speed mixer (11,000 rpm) and
i am planning to produce biodiesel in pilot scale what should be the
approximate mixing rate in rpm?
Best Regards,
Get free email an
I know that there are differing beliefs on this list as to required mixing
times for reaction completion.
We never had any need to vary mixing time beyond 2 hours until we got up to the
300 gallon level. What we found was that our mixing times changed relative to
the motor we were limited to a
Howdy, I've built several processors now. I'd suggest going with a fumeless
design processor. Girl_mark posted one a while back. The plans look
outstanding. That would mean nixing the mixer idea. The open mixers are
stinky and dangerous.
Best regards, Michael
I've just decided to finally start making biodiesel, after lurking on
this list for ages, so I've decided to read all of the method's etc on
JtF. Whilst reading through the foolproof method, Aleks says in the
First Stage - point 8:
Mix gently at LOW rpm (don't splash!) while keeping the tem
>Hello all,
>
>I'd like to ask anyone on some clarification on how the 1" clear
>water pump is used in mixing the oil with sodium methoxide.
>
>From my understanding (limited as it is) I imagine I would have the
>pump drawing the sodium methoxide and oil from the same sealed
>mixing drum, and pump
240 volt
unit with 110 v supply. Works good. Don’t let it go dry.
Good luck Derick
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heating biodiesel
I
Some people have had luck looking on www.pumpbiz.com
I use an old drill and a long, bent rod like a paint stirrer. Works
great for 20 gallons or so - all you need is a vortex on the surface.
Stainless will work for immersion. I use quite a bit of steel and have
yet to have a problem.
Good
Thanks for your link on Oscillatory Flow Mixing (OFM)
Keith . will check it out now paddy
> Make your own continuous reactor! Oscillatory Flow Mixing (OFM)
> provides highly effective mixing in tube reactors by the combination
> of fluid oscillations and baffle inserts ... OFM is pa
Hi Todd,
Great post !!
David Cruse
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> I know that there are differing beliefs on this list as
e -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 9:05 AM
Subject: [biofuel] mixing rate during biodiesel production
> hi everybody,
>
> i produced biodiesel in the laboratory with high speed mixer (11,000 rpm)
and
Hello, I was wondering about mixing waste oil with diesel or
kerosene and running the fuel through a heat exchanger prior to the
injection pump, the reverse of a "cool can" on drag race cars, would
this be sufficient to reduce coking and glazing? I intend to do this
mainly during the summer mont
Hi all,
I've just decided to finally start making biodiesel, after
lurking on this list for ages,
Good!
so I've decided to read all of the method's etc on JtF. Whilst
reading through the foolproof method, Aleks says in the First Stage
- point 8:
Mix gently at LOW rpm (don't splash!) wh
For some reason, I am thinking that someone ( some time ago) said it was ok to
mix methanol and ethanol before adding the hydroxide, to make BioDiesel.
Could someone confirm this?
Greg H.
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On Tuesday, September 7, 2004, at 08:01 AM, Greg Harbican wrote:
> For some reason, I am thinking that someone ( some time ago) said it
> was
> ok to mix methanol and ethanol before adding the hydroxide, to make
> BioDiesel.
>
>
The Journey to Forever website has a section on using such mixt
: Re: [biofuel] Mixing of Methanol and Ethanol to make BioDiesel
On Tuesday, September 7, 2004, at 08:01 AM, Greg Harbican wrote:
> For some reason, I am thinking that someone ( some time ago) said it
> was
> ok to mix methanol and ethanol before adding the hydroxide
tion that you won't be able to find
anything at the Journey to Forever site. It's just wrong, get over it.
Best
Keith
>Greg H.
> - Original Message -
> From: Ken Provost
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 13:16
> Subject: Re:
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From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 23:04
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Mixing of Methanol and Ethanol to make BioDiesel
Hi Greg
>I looked and saw the information about using just ethanol or just
>methanol, but, not anythi
ng soon though. Watch this space (but don't
hold your breath).
regards
Keith
>Greg H.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Keith Addison
> To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 23:04
> Subject: Re: [biofuel] Mixing of Methanol
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Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 02:29
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Hi Greg
Lots of new stuff coming soon though. Watch this space (but don't
hold your breath).
regards
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reactor?
I'll quote what I find most interesting. (from
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor8.html)
*
The second stage, which is fairly rapid, produces the peak
concentrations of di-glycerides and mono-glycerides within about 10
minutes. If we use the 6:1 molar ratio (25%
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Dear Ken,
I read and re-read the Professor Allen's write up on
Deepthort.
I think the answer to your question lies in Paragraph
#10, Paragraph 11, and Paragraph 12, whereby Professor
Allen talks about the density and solubility
differences between palm oil and methanol. The
Professor talks ab
Kenneth Kron wrote:
I'll quote what I find most interesting. (from
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor8.html)
*
There is no mixer in the upper stage of the reactor because the
conversion of oil to ester is favoured by reducing the glycerol
content. We therefore "encourage
Kenneth Kron wrote:
I'll quote what I find most interesting. (from
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor8.html)
*
There is no mixer in the upper stage of the reactor because the
conversion of oil to ester is favoured by reducing the glycerol
content. We therefore "encourage" the
ate: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:24:28 -0400
> >Subject: [biofuel] Mixing times for complete reactions
> >
> >I know that there are differing beliefs on this list as to required
> >mixing times for reaction completion.
> >
> >We never had any need to vary mixing time beyond 2 hour
>To:
>Organization: Appal Energy Co-op
>From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:24:28 -0400
>Subject: [biofuel] Mixing times for complete reactions
>
>I know that there are differing beliefs on this list as to required
>mix
"Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:24:28 -0400
> >Subject: [biofuel] Mixing times for complete reactions
> >
> >I know that there are differing beliefs on this list as to
required
> >mixing times for reaction completion.
>
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> Has any successfully used a small recirculating pump to mix
> during the reaction time? A 1/4 hp Grunfos with nitrile, brass or
> other impellers should work. The amount of electricity used
> would be low. The pump ou
Helo to gobie ,Paul and Miller
We are interested to design the use of solar enegy instead of wood as
fuel and looking for the innovative design. Is there any one who already have
done this design for recirculation using thermo siphon without pump , solar
heating, product se
Hi Jim
I made a mixing vessel from a 30 litre water pressure tank cut in half,
welded onto the ends of a 1.2 meter high cylinder (capacity of 160
litres) I used a 1/2 hp transfer pump with brass impeller, and I'm glad
I tried it with vegetable oil first. It would only run for a few minutes
be
Jim- This probably won't be a good idea. Nitrile impellers dissolve in
biodiesel in just a few months, standing or in use. While brass is a catalyst
for
oxidation of biodiesel, yielding a green slime and degraded fuel. The safe
impellers are cast iron, plastic or stainless steel.
I'm not o
Tom:
Thanks for the tip.
Jim Miller
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> Jim- This probably won't be a good idea. Nitrile
> impellers dissolve in
> biodiesel in just a few months, standing or in use.
> While brass is a catalyst for
> oxidation of biodiesel, yielding a green sl
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> Helo to gobie ,Paul and Miller
>
> W
Pannier,
Hydro-cyclone separation is a good idea in principle. From my experience
with these, I should think you will be looking at a bank of several small
diameter units manifolded together on all three pipes (inlet, apex and
vortex finder). If these are above the reactor and uninsulated, the m
odieseller. Write him direct if you like.
Keith Addison
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