[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-14 Thread Francis Hemsher
Probably the only honest answer to your question... Yes, Francis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "gee_whiz_bang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just installed the ASV 6 beta (from > http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/beta.html ) > and it looks really good. The antialiasing looks be

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread gee_whiz_bang
I had to quit using the 6pr, because it looks like it has a resource leak of some kind. After a few minutes of poking around on my graphic (whick is just doing mousovers / zooming / panning) it started getting really slow and unresponsive, which never happens with the ASV3 version. So we really

[svg-developers] RE: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Geoffrey Swenson
Your post on this just sounds like you hope that Adobe will see the need to restart work on SVG, but in some way confirms that they have set it aside at the moment. I certainly didn't find the wishy-washy statements by the Adobe people here to be very encouraging at all. And the long-in-the-tooth

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Geoffrey Swenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My take on it is that the app I have just written will probably have to be > modified later to use XAML or whatever actually becomes the standard. It > looks like there are a lot of contenders for this sort

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Schiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Geoffrey Swenson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My take on it is that the app I have just written will probably have > to be > > modified later to use XAML or what

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread gee_whiz_bang
I like the idea of vendor neutral, but it needs to be a POPULAR standard first and foremost for me. If M$ succeeds at making XAML the way to go, so be it. I am not going to fight it. If this happens other vendors will create their own XAML interfaces, and we will get to the same functionality

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Jeff Schiller
> SVG and Flash are competing technologies. They are both graphically rich, > scriptable, and interactive. > I would more properly state that SVG and MXML are competitors. They are both XML, graphically rich, scriptable and interactive. I see no reason that Adobe can't compile SVG into native

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread paul_willson8
I think, yet to emerge technologies/inventions and market would force them to rethink about SVG. They have lot riding on Flash and PDF and cannot afford to loose out. Hence will be forced to make tough choices. Although Flash is good technology, it has some fundamental limitations. They need a

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-16 Thread Jeroen Dekker
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > That's where I > see Microsoft as having a particularly strong tool in Sparkle - it gives a > design environment that allows designing and programming to work > synergistically. To the best of my knowledge SVG hasn't had such a tool. Haven't looked at Sparkle at al

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-14 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Geoffrey- Well, unless Francis has some sort of insider knowledge, I think it's safer to go with what Adobe themselves have said: * SVG-Tiny support (in mobile stuff) will continue (from the Adobe/MM merger FAQ) * SVG support in Adobe Illustrator will expand (from Jon Ferraiolo on this list)

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Rob Jellinghaus
At 12:29 PM 12/15/2005, gee_whiz_bang wrote: >Adobe may be looking over its shoulder at XAML and is waiting to see >where it goes before they invest any more into SVG. If so, they are >missing an opportunity to become a new web standard, but perhaps they >don't see any profit in it, so they don't b

Re: [svg-developers] RE: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Chris Lilley
On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 6:01:52 PM, Geoffrey wrote: GS> Your post on this just sounds like you hope that Adobe will see the need to GS> restart work on SVG, but in some way confirms that they have set it aside at GS> the moment. GS> I certainly didn't find the wishy-washy statements by th

Re: [svg-developers] RE: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Mario Vernari
Chris Lilley ha scritto: >On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 6:01:52 PM, Geoffrey wrote: > >GS> Your post on this just sounds like you hope that Adobe will see the need to >GS> restart work on SVG, but in some way confirms that they have set it aside >at >GS> the moment. > >GS> I certainly didn't fi

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Mike Chambers
Currently, there are not any XML markup elements for drawing primitives within MXML. However, ActionScript, which is the scripting language used with MXML / Flex does have support for graphic instructions. It would be possible (and I don't believe too difficult) for a developer to create new MX

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Geoffrey Swenson
ECTED] -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Chambers Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:37 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG? Currently, there are not any XML m

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-15 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi- Mike Chambers wrote: | | It would be possible (and I don't believe too difficult) for | a developer to create new MXML tags / components that exposed | the underlying ActionScript drawing API to the XML layer. | i.e., so you could do something like this: | | Alternately, you could use an

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe abandoning SVG?

2005-12-16 Thread AndrewWatt2001
In a message dated 16/12/2005 13:45:45 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Haven't looked at Sparkle at all, but just from reading your description, the SVG suite that Corel abandoned a while ago sounds like what you mean: an environment that enabled people to design SVG graphics a