Re: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-11 Thread Jean-David Benamou
I dont know why but I woke up this morning thinking about this vote (probably the bad democratic shape of France ...) I wish as much as everyone does on this list that SVG becomes THE graphic Standard on the web but I am just kind of sceptical about this vote thing : * First : I cant see why

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
To everyone on this list: I did get a private reply from Chris Wilson of the IEBlog a few days ago and have debated whether to relay the news. Here goes: Chris stated that they are not planning to include ASV with IE7 for reasons that: a) it is an ActiveX control (whether he means security

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
Just a stray thought, someone had posted an example of a Google Maps mashup that used a driving path that could be dragged/adjusted in real-time. If that app actually snapped the waypoints to spots in the map and then gave the new driving directions that corresponded to real street corners, etc I

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-11 Thread Darryl Watson
Jeff Schiller wrote: Anyway, I think it's up to us as SVG developers/evangelists to convince people that SVG is worthwhile and start building out those wow applications. Heck, let's make those applications XHTML+SVG with suggestions to IE users that they can update themselves to one of the free

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-11 Thread Andreas Neumann
Jeff, thanks for sharing this information - it is useful. It's pretty much what I expected. If we get SVG support in IE8, thats perfectly fine for me, even a tiny or basic profile with DOM support would be good for a first version. about bundling ASV with Flash: I am pretty sure they won't

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-06 Thread Doug Schepers
Just a note here to indicate a major obstacle/opportunity for SVG in IE. IE does not currently support DOM2 (much less DOM3), and thus many of the methods and consistency of scripting that we are used to in SVG would not be there if IE implemented SVG today. So, while I am definitely hoping that

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-06 Thread Jeroen Vanattenhoven
Just a question related to this: Since they have VML for vector graphics, which looks like SVG, couldn't they reuse some of its implementation for SVG? Jeroen Doug Schepers schreef: Just a note here to indicate a major obstacle/opportunity for SVG in IE. IE does not currently support DOM2

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-06 Thread Francis Hemsher
I guess since we are in a reflective mode at this time, awaiting some indicator from the IE team to let us know how they are going proceed, I'll give my spin on the situation. ASV3 will be bundled with IE7. The SVG Object to then be built by MS will include creative aspects, not currently

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-06 Thread Phi Tran
On 5/6/06, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a note here to indicate a major obstacle/opportunity for SVG in IE. IE does not currently support DOM2 (much less DOM3), and thus many of the methods and consistency of scripting that we are used to in SVG would not be there if IE

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-05 Thread Jeff Schiller
Francis, Not sure why I'm nominated, but thanks - I guess ;) Anyway, I did send a request to Chris Wilson on his personal blog feedback form for more information regarding SVG in IE and in particular what was said about SVG and IE at MIX06. I never received a reply, I assume he's swamped.

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-02 Thread Francis Hemsher
Hello All, I've looked at the recent votes, and its at about 185 and continuing. I guess we could go on for the next few months and build this to any number. I think it's time to make a statement to the IEblog, rather than extend this further. I'd like to nominate Jeff Schiller to revisit

AW: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-27 Thread Armin Mueller
sometimes we have also advantages in modifying standards Armin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von John Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. April 2006 08:52 An: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-27 Thread Francis Hemsher
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Francis Hemsher The voting is currently at 72 and counting... (I looked at other voting subjects, and SVG can pull ahead of the pack in voting interest.) I think the knowledgeble comments with each vote are excellent, showing a substantial

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-27 Thread Jeff Schiller
I'd like to point out that this thing we're voting on is recognized as an enhancement, not a bug (by the originator). While I agree with this, I suspect it also means that votes are counted somewhat on a curve (i.e. they give preference to actual bugs). Just my take - BUT KEEP VOTING! Jeff

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-27 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Francis- Nice work getting this ball rolling. I'm not sure how much affect it will have, but it certainly can't hurt. I also posted this to SVG.org. Francis Hemsher wrote: | | P.S. hopefully we will be a legitimate bug for IE8's native | SVG Object. There will probably be updates between

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-26 Thread Andreas Neumann
I actually wanted to give feedback, but didn't manage. They made me to create a ms passport (which I avoided so far). After creating that passport I came to a listing of programs which told me to apply for a program. What should I do here? Just wanted to give feedback. Also the program for

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-26 Thread Rolf Leopold
Hi Andreas, i think you were on the right way. It took me another 2 minutes to apply for the programm Internet Explorer Feedback(Has to be done once), and then i got to the many different votes. (The date 3/21 stands for Start of Application, and not for End of Application) Once you´re logged

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-26 Thread Andreas Neumann
Thanks Rolf, I managed to vote now. I find the feedback site more than confusing. Let's hope MS listens to our requests. Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Rolf Leopold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andreas, i think you were on the right way. It took me another 2 minutes to

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-26 Thread Samuel Dagan
Thanks Francis, So far 48 out of 64 voted for the highest support (5) of SVG. In view of the importance of the issue for the members of this group, I hope that much more will join. Cheers, Samy --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Francis Hemsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Internet

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-26 Thread Francis Hemsher
Samuel Dagan wrote: |So far 48 out of 64 voted for the highest support (5) of SVG. |In view of the importance of the issue for the members of this |group, I hope that much more will join. Hi Samy, The voting is currently at 72 and counting... (I looked at other voting subjects, and SVG can pull

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-26 Thread John
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Francis Hemsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Internet Explorer 7 team is now taking input on how to support SVG in the final build of IE7, and also looking to ideas for IE8. SVG is MIME type text/svg+xml - and the xmlns value for SVG 1.1 has already

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
Voted over a month ago on the bug and the suggested workaround (bundle ASV with IE7). The link after you've logged in is: https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?SiteID=136FeedbackID=54028 Seems there are some people leaving feedback to the contrary though (mikes12345 states

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-25 Thread Francis Hemsher
Hi Jeff, Yes, I saw, and second, your comment. I was going include some kind remark about the pig guy, but I held my tongue:) Francis --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voted over a month ago on the bug and the suggested workaround (bundle ASV with