Re: [svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-27 Thread Kurt Cagle
dellscreek wrote: But who says UI's can't be made WITH a graphics language? Give me a break. :-) Who says a car can't be built WITH a hand tool box? But would you? will you? A few thoughts on this: http://metaphoricalweb.blogspot.com/2004/09/how-widgety-should-svg-get.html -- Kurt Cagle

[svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-24 Thread orchidsonline
What's a web widget? Good question. My view is that it is an object that: 1. has a predefined default look and behavior 2. can respond to user events from any widget on the web page, if necessary 3. is modular 4. and can use svg to give it some pizz. Examples are header, footer,

[svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-24 Thread Alastair Fettes
Dave, Wow, you just got the entire idea behind how I intend to make multi- form applications using SPARK. That is exactly the way that I intend to do things. Basically you author your entire application (a web page may be considered an application) in one SVG document and you hide/show each

Re: [svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-24 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Alastair, your comment: Basically you author your entire application in one SVG document and you hide/show each view has fairly serious accessibility issues related to it, how does one bookmark or define a state? if for instance one wishes to post a link of the state to a colleague, or on a

[svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-24 Thread dellscreek
A very candid comment. For so many years, other parts of Web tech like Flash, DHTML etc has evolved into popular supports, SVG support is still in Stone Age, or should I say Iron Age? That is really ironic. The spec is growing fatty and fatty, which means fewer tech company would be able to

[svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-24 Thread Alastair Fettes
It is possible to save the application state because it is held by the current state of the SVG. Therefore simply serialize the SVG. How do you do this with DHTML? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan Chetwynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alastair, your comment: Basically you author your

[svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-24 Thread orchidsonline
I've been thinking that the key to this is to get any page up and running in its simplest state and then layer in the goodies like filters, gradients, shapes, animations, etc. That way the user can see what's there before getting impatient and leaving. This could get messy because you would

[svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-22 Thread orchidsonline
Thanks. What's replacing this library concept in svg1.2? dave --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], André M. Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you could check http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/webmapping/files/thematicMap/ for a working example. but RCC is outdated by SVG1.2. andré --

[svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-22 Thread Alastair Fettes
Hi Dave, I've had one or two thoughts on the matter as have a number of other people concerning SVG based UI widgets. A short list of tech's are as follows: 1. SPARK - http://www.schemasoft.org (#1 because I did it, lol) 2. CGUI - http://homepage.usask.ca/~ctl271/cgui/ 3. Kevin Lindsey -

[svg-developers] Re: external rcc in Adobe Viewer 6?

2004-09-22 Thread orchidsonline
Seems like SPARK and/or CGUI are the only logical options. I'll start digging into them tomorrow. Thanks to all for your help. dave --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alastair Fettes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, I've had one or two thoughts on the matter as have a number of other people