[svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-03 Thread dandiya
Hi Doug In the example you posted http://svg-whiz.com/samples.html#insertShapes how come the title and desc are not visible along with the shapes even though you have generated both and appended them. Are title/desc triggered only on a particular event? -Ravi Y

[svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-04 Thread dandiya
Hi Doug http://svg-whiz.com/samples.html#trefMetadata not accssible..Can you pleae re post it.. -Ravi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.cl

[svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-05 Thread Jim Ley
"Jonathan Chetwynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >the SMIL tooltips example code uses mouseover and mouseout, almost by >definition that can't be good accessibility because it is device >dependent. No, there's nothing inaccessible about having additional function

[svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-06 Thread roycepipkins
This code does't seem to work as well when a viewbox attribute is placed on the svg element. How would you adjust the coordinate calculations to compensate for an arbitrary viewbox? Thanks, Royce --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Doug Schepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Ravi- > > I'm not sure

[svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-07 Thread roycepipkins
The code is not an issue, I'm just not sure of the relationship. Does the viewbox create another layer of scale and translation relative to the client coordinates? Thanks for your time, Royce --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Doug Schepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Royce- > > You'll have to

RE: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-04 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Ravi- That's because 'title', 'desc', 'metadata', and the proposed 'hint' (among many other elements, such as 'g') are non-rendering elements. In this case, they are all used for semantically-tagged metadata. Of these, only 'hint' is at all rendered, triggered by a mouseover, but that's SVG1.

Re: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-04 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Schepers, that's an elegant solution, however one that may not be supported by the MozSVG implementation. #273171 could be one to "bite the bullet" on? regards Jonathan Chetwynd http://www.peepo.co.uk "It's easy to use" irc://freenode/accessibility On 4 Dec 2004, at 20:01, Doug Schepers wr

RE: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-04 Thread Doug Schepers
Jonathan- Of course it won't work in Mozilla's SVG implementation. As good as MozSVG is on what it does, it is not nearly a complete implementation of even SVG 1.0 (nor does it claim to be, though it's making good progress). I don't think that it's useful to point out every example posted to this

RE: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-04 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Ravi- Yes, it is. I checked with several people, and they all could see the page and the example. I noticed when chatting with you yesterday that you had the same problem with accessing my site after I changed a page. I think that you may have caching errors. You should do a hard refresh of

Re: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-05 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Doug, well it's certainly exciting news that you intend to contribute. in the meantime it is possible to write documents that work in both asv and mozSVG. including one that demonstrates tool tips! which may mean using scripting in this instance. A large part of accessibility is ensuring tha

RE: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-05 Thread Doug Schepers
As promised, here is the sample I cooked up to demonstrate referencing metadata elements: http://svg-whiz.com/samples.html#trefMetadata Regards- Doug doug . schepers @ vectoreal.com www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. Doug Schepers wrote: | | Hi, Ravi- | | That's because 'title',

Re: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-05 Thread Jonathan Chetwynd
Jim, perhaps you can enlighten me, what is the 'required information' that a blind user or a user who prefers not to use a mouse will get from this SMIL document? regards Jonathan Chetwynd http://www.peepo.co.uk "It's easy to use" irc://freenode/accessibility On 5 Dec 2004, at 18:22, Jim

RE: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Jonathan- Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: | | in the meantime it is possible to write documents that work | in both asv and mozSVG. | including one that demonstrates tool tips! which may mean | using scripting in this instance. Er... You mean like the scripted tooltip example on the same page, w

RE: [svg-developers] Re: tool tips --on mouse over

2004-12-06 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Royce- You'll have to edit "function GetTrueCoords" to compensate for the viewBox settings. I don't have time to look into right now, but I'm sure you could do it with a little effort. In fact, you might want to create x and y offset globals in Init, so the calculations are only done once, t