RE: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-06 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Francis- | I believe, unless IE7 picks up SVG and runs with it, we're | all dead in the water, and should pick up our tents and move | to another tribe. If you think that, you should get out of SVG right now, because there is almost no chance that IE7 will have no native support for SVG (ev

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Gnyla
Lets hope the rumours that heard a while back are true that Google are possibly bringing out a browser built on Mozilla which would probably speed things up for SVG, as someone said if you ask your Director "Install FF, its better " they would say "FF, whats that", but if the same was to be ask

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Ronan Oger
Francis, ASV is not the only solution for SVG on the IE platform. For example, there is also the Corel SVG Viewer. The other SVG viewer vendors may also decide to offer a plugin or activeX solution to fill any whole Adobe leaves behind. After all, when MS left that W3C SVG workgroup, did yo

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 07, 2005, at 14:11, Ronan Oger wrote: > ASV is not the only solution for SVG on the IE platform. For > example, there is > also the Corel SVG Viewer. Errm, no, no, there isn't. Forget about Corel. But there's Mozzie, which is a fine option as well: http://sourceforge.net/projects/moz

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Christophe Strobbe
At 14:29 7/12/2005, Robin Berjon wrote: >On Dec 07, 2005, at 14:11, Ronan Oger wrote: > > ASV is not the only solution for SVG on the IE platform. For > > example, there is > > also the Corel SVG Viewer. > >Errm, no, no, there isn't. Forget about Corel. It's right here: http://www.corel.com/servl

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 07, 2005, at 15:00, Christophe Strobbe wrote: > It's right here: > http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel/Downloads/ > Details&id=1042152917172 > > But maybe you wanted to say that you don't recommend it? Right. It's even more dead than ASV. >> But there's Mozzie, which is

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Ronan Oger
There is one key difference: Corel is not being developed any more, but it has zero chance of being superceded with a downgraded version of the same. With ASV, there is every chance that it suddenly dissapears from your client desktops and is replaced with ASV4, or Acrobat8, which supports flas

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 07, 2005, at 15:44, Ronan Oger wrote: > Corel is not being developed any more, but it has zero chance of being > superceded with a downgraded version of the same. It also has close to zero chance of being useful. People don't author to it, and it won't be going anywhere. > With ASV, ther

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Jon Ferraiolo
lf Of Robin Berjon Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:57 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia On Dec 07, 2005, at 15:44, Ronan Oger wrote: > Corel is not being developed any more, but it has zero chance of being > superceded with a

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Jon- Thanks for the clarification. I'm sure it will help many people and companies plan any strategies which involve SVG. I know you cannot confirm or deny, but given the advanced development Adobe has done with SVG viewers, I would still hope for the possibility of a new viewer from Adobe, w

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 2:29:19 PM, Robin wrote: RB> On Dec 07, 2005, at 14:11, Ronan Oger wrote: >> ASV is not the only solution for SVG on the IE platform. For >> example, there is also the Corel SVG Viewer. RB> Errm, no, no, there isn't. Forget about Corel. Well, there is: I still h

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 4:41:05 PM, Jon wrote: JF> At this point, Adobe has no plans to do anything which would disrupt any JF> ASV3 installations or dependencies on ASV3 downloads. If we come out JF> with new viewing technology which includes SVG support, we will be JF> highly sensitive t

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 3:21:02 PM, jeff_schiller wrote: j> Here's my take : j> http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2005/12/06/the-svg-roller-coaster/ You note there that Opera "plans to support CDF in a big way, which is fantastic news.". It is, I agree; part of the point of SVG being in

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
n JF> -Original Message- JF> From: Chris Lilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JF> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:58 AM JF> To: Jon Ferraiolo JF> Cc: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com JF> Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia JF> On Wednesday, December 7, 200

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 10:15:56 PM, Garry wrote: GH> It's good to know that the baby is still in the bath and so is the GH> water... GH> Hopefully at Adobe you'll be considering that, with the integration GH> straight-forward SVG parser, the Flash engine is already capable of GH> disp

RE: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Jon Ferraiolo
se (but I can't say which ones) and no SVG features will be dropped. Jon -Original Message- From: Chris Lilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:58 AM To: Jon Ferraiolo Cc: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macr

Re: [SPAM?] Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Jeroen Vanattenhoven
Do you have any sources about Acrobat 8 supporting SVGt? I would be really interested in that. Are there also sources available about the Adobe SVG plugin being installed when Acrobat x? is installed? Jeroen Ronan Oger schreef: >There is one key difference: > >Corel is not being developed any

Re: [SPAM?] Re: [svg-developers] Re: Adobe/Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Ronan Oger
Jeroen, I have no more information than you do: a statement by Adobe saying they will support SVGt and Flash light, and no mention of SVG anywhere. Ronan On Wednesday 07 December 2005 14:48, Jeroen Vanattenhoven wrote: > Do you have any sources about Acrobat 8 supporting SVGt? I would be > re