On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:27:15AM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> > > should never type my password at something which is not a trusted local
> > > binary.
> >
> > As I know, you can't use kerberos outside controled perimeter (with
> > working NTP sync, revers DNS and etc). I.e. from random [netwo
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 08:14:59PM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
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> > On Thu, 5 Mar 2015, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 10:11:43AM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Slawa Olhovche
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 08:14:59PM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 10:11:43AM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Speaking as an upstream mai
On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 12:05:23 +0300
Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
>
> > On 5 __ 2015 __., at 22:22, Alfred Perlstein
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/5/15 6:09 AM, David Chisnall wrote:
> >> On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
> >>
> >>> It is so nice to have most useful stu
> On 5 марта 2015 г., at 22:22, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>
>
>
> On 3/5/15 6:09 AM, David Chisnall wrote:
>> On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
>>
>>> It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box.
>> The question is whether a tool for logging into remote machines with
Bezüglich Garrett Cooper's Nachricht vom 05.03.2015 19:47 (localtime):
> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:21, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
>
>> On 03/05/15 13:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>>>
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptist
On Thu, 5 Mar 2015, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 10:11:43AM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >
> > Speaking as an upstream maintainer: don't use kerberized telnet.
>
> I am use this for test kerberos setup (check
On 3/5/15 6:09 AM, David Chisnall wrote:
On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box.
The question is whether a tool for logging into remote machines without
encryption is 'the most useful stuff'. The tool is also [ab]used for n
On 5 Mar 2015, at 13:47, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:21, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
>
>> On 03/05/15 13:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>>>
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:21, Hans Ottevanger wrote:
> On 03/05/15 13:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> B> Author: bapt
>>> B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
>
On 03/05/15 13:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
B> Author: bapt
B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
B> New Revision: 279603
B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/
On Mar 5, 2015, at 9:26, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:05:21AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 3:48, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> B> Author: bapt
>>> B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:05:21AM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Mar 5, 2015, at 3:48, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > B> Author: bapt
> > B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
> > B> New Revision: 279603
> > B> URL: https://svnwe
On Mar 5, 2015, at 3:48, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> B> Author: bapt
> B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
> B> New Revision: 279603
> B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603
> B>
> B> Log:
> B> r* commands are not
On 03/05/15 06:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
S> How to connect to mpd control socket?!
pkg install mpd5 telnet
OMG, please do not make nightmare one have on Linux or Solaris. Everything can
be installed form packages but it is so inconvenient!
It is so nice to have most useful stuff out o
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 10:11:43AM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:20:59PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
> >
> > > Does telnet come with a massive selection of options for insecure login
> > / authentication
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:20:59PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
>
> > Does telnet come with a massive selection of options for insecure login
> / authentication? Yes.
>
> This is may right to use or not to use secure or not secure login
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:20:59PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:13, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >
> > Not better, no.
>
> Does telnet support creating server sockets? No.
don't need for me.
> Does telnet support IPsec? No.
Let me guess, only from root and only when
> On 5 марта 2015 г., at 17:09, David Chisnall wrote:
>
> On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
>
>> It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box.
>
> The question is whether a tool for logging into remote machines without
> encryption is 'the most useful stuff'. The t
On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:13, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
> Not better, no.
Does telnet support creating server sockets? No.
Does telnet support IPsec? No.
Does telnet let you specify the tcp window size? No.
Does telnet come with a massive selection of options for insecure login /
authenticatio
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:09:38PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
>
> > It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box.
>
> The question is whether a tool for logging into remote machines
> without encryption is 'the most useful stuff'.
On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
> It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box.
The question is whether a tool for logging into remote machines without
encryption is 'the most useful stuff'. The tool is also [ab]used for network
testing, but we already provide a be
> On 5 марта 2015 г., at 15:35, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:33:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > S> > S> >
On 3/5/15 5:06 AM, David Chisnall wrote:
On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:42, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
nc don't work with unix socket.
Okay, now you're changing your requirements - you first spoke of remote
equipment and network testing. However, UNIX domain sockets appear as files in
the filesys
On 3/5/15 4:28 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:24:05PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
I guess when they are going to be not precious enough to be removed? :)
In modern world of ssh and https, does any OS require th
On 3/5/15 4:49 AM, Edward Tomasz Napierała wrote:
On 0305T1555, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:40:37PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > nc(1), which is a pure socket testing tool. For telnet(1) this
S> > capability is a side effect.
S>
S> You don't try this in practice.
S
On 3/5/15 4:30 AM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > S> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
S> > S> > B> Author: bapt
S> > S> >
On 5 Mar 2015, at 13:14, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
> In previos message -- silently return when telnet speak about used IP
> address and diagnostic messages. One simple command do many diagnostic
> information.
Okay, so check the return code. Or pass -v if you want more verbose
information:
On 0305T1555, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:40:37PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > nc(1), which is a pure socket testing tool. For telnet(1) this
> S> > capability is a side effect.
> S>
> S> You don't try this in practice.
> S> % nc zxy.spb.ru 81
> S> %
> S> % telnet
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 01:06:44PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
>
> > On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:42, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >
> >> netcat - nc(1) - which can also work in the other direction and is
> >> designed specifically for this purpose.
> >
> > nc(1) don't correctly work.
>
> It works f
> On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:42, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
>> netcat - nc(1) - which can also work in the other direction and is designed
>> specifically for this purpose.
>
> nc(1) don't correctly work.
It works for me for everything that I used to use telnet for (connection
testing, checking p
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:55:01PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:40:37PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > nc(1), which is a pure socket testing tool. For telnet(1) this
> S> > capability is a side effect.
> S>
> S> You don't try this in practice.
> S> % nc zxy.sp
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 01:53:31PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:50:49PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 01:49:33PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:40:37PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:40:37PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > nc(1), which is a pure socket testing tool. For telnet(1) this
S> > capability is a side effect.
S>
S> You don't try this in practice.
S> % nc zxy.spb.ru 81
S> %
S> % telnet zxy.spb.ru 81
S> Trying 195.70.199.98...
S> telnet:
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:50:49PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 01:49:33PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:40:37PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:35:48PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> > > > nc(1), which i
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 01:49:33PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:40:37PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:35:48PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> > > nc(1), which is a pure socket testing tool. For telnet(1) this
> > > capability is a side ef
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:40:37PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:35:48PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> > nc(1), which is a pure socket testing tool. For telnet(1) this
> > capability is a side effect.
>
> You don't try this in practice.
> % nc zxy.spb.ru 81
> %
> %
On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
>> I guess when they are going to be not precious enough to be removed? :)
>>
>> In modern world of ssh and https, does any OS require them in base?
>
> yes.
> Some telecom equipment require rlogin.
'Some relatively obscure use case needs th
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:37:06PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:33, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >
> > And how to test open/listing ports/sockets?!
>
> netcat - nc(1) - which can also work in the other direction and is designed
> specifically for this purpose.
nc(1) don'
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:35:48PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:33:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > S>
On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:33, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
> And how to test open/listing ports/sockets?!
netcat - nc(1) - which can also work in the other direction and is designed
specifically for this purpose.
> How to connect to mpd control socket?!
mpdcon from the command line, MPDroid from my
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> B> Author: bapt
> B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
> B> New Revision: 279603
> B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603
> B>
> B> Log:
> B> r* c
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:33:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > S> > S> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin
wro
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:32:14PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:30, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >
> > Yes, if ships before (don't break if working).
> > Some Linux distro remove telnet from default install.
> > Do you like to remove telnet also?
>
> Absolutely, now that n
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:53PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > S> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> S> > S>
On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:30, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
>
> Yes, if ships before (don't break if working).
> Some Linux distro remove telnet from default install.
> Do you like to remove telnet also?
Absolutely, now that netcat is part of the default install. For anything that
a sane user might con
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > S> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
S> > S> > B> Author: bapt
S> > S> > B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
S> > S> >
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:23:59PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> S> > B> Author: bapt
> S> > B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
> S> > B> New Revision: 27
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:24:05PM +, David Chisnall wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> >
> >> I guess when they are going to be not precious enough to be removed? :)
> >>
> >> In modern world of ssh and https, does any OS require them in base?
> >
> > yes.
> > S
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
S> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
S> > B> Author: bapt
S> > B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
S> > B> New Revision: 279603
S> > B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603
S> > B>
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:48:29PM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> B> Author: bapt
> B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
> B> New Revision: 279603
> B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603
> B>
> B> Log:
> B> r*
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
B> Author: bapt
B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
B> New Revision: 279603
B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603
B>
B> Log:
B> r* commands are not precious anymore
B>
B> Modified:
B> head/bin/rcp/Makefile
B>
Author: bapt
Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015
New Revision: 279603
URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603
Log:
r* commands are not precious anymore
Modified:
head/bin/rcp/Makefile
head/usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile
head/usr.bin/rsh/Makefile
Modified: head/bin/rcp/Makefile
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