Re: [sword-devel] NASB

2017-02-22 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 22:55 +, Matt Zabojnik wrote: > . Could you point me to a > reliable resource that I can use to find out who the copyright owners > are for public domain resource, in order to request permission to > distribute? I'm not asking you to do the leg work for me, but perhaps >

Re: [sword-devel] NASB

2017-02-22 Thread Matt Zabojnik
Yes sir, I forgive you, and can see how easily this could have been misunderstood. I didn't intend on the dual conversation all in one thread, I didn't expect the public domain question to be as extensive as it became. I've not made any indication that I might freely distribute the NASB, nor am I

Re: [sword-devel] NASB

2017-02-22 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Matt, A couple things. I think What Jonathon and others on here are saying is, that over 30 years doing this stuff, we've learned that the ONLY source that is reliable to both: obtain the data for a Bible, and to obtain permission to host a Bible, is the actual owner / copyright holder. We

Re: [sword-devel] NASB

2017-02-22 Thread Matt Zabojnik
I apologize for the confusion here, this really should have been two threads, as two conversations are occurring simultaneously. I have permission in regards to NASB. On the other hand, what started as a simple question about declaring PD sources ended up commanding the direction of the thread.

Re: [sword-devel] NASB

2017-02-22 Thread jonathon
On 02/21/2017 11:37 PM, Matt Zabojnik wrote: > know, I have no awareness of any sort of situation relating to the matter. Let's put it this way: Other than official resources distributed by authorized agents of _The Sword Project_, _Accordance_, _BibleWorks_, and _Logos Library Systems_ (I've

Re: [sword-devel] NASB

2017-02-22 Thread Matt Zabojnik
Thank you, David. I'm going to take up the NASB work. I won't need anyone's work that has already been done on this, though if anyone would like to give input, I don't mind. I appreciate the depth of your explanation for source texts and for all of the clarification you've provided. The only

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
A similar test on my Panjabi module (still WIP) but using GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8HebrewPoints demonstrated that there was no difference made to the output. The fact that vulgar fraction ¾ was left unaltered is proof that this filter does not use Unicode Normalisation to decompose combined

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
Greg, COMBINING GREEK YPOGEGRAMMENI is certainly a diacritic in terms of Unicode classification! Full name = U+0345 COMBINING GREEK YPOGEGRAMMENI : iota subscript It's in the block called "Combining Diacritical Marks". Full details: (courtesy of BabelPad or BabelMap) Character Properties for

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:58 AM, David Haslam wrote: > The UTF8GreekAccents filter also fails to remove one particular Greek > diacritic. > > At least, that's the case for how it works within diatheke 4.7 distributed > with Xiphos 4.0.4 > > After the normalization step, it

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
I have created an issue in the CrossWire tracker. http://tracker.crosswire.org/browse/API-198 Note the temporary URL for the tracker. This link may not be permanent. Best regards, David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire Bug Tracker upgrade

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
Thanks, DM. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/CrossWire-Bug-Tracker-upgrade-tp4656681p4656794.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire Bug Tracker upgrade

2017-02-22 Thread DM Smith
Temporary address tracker.crosswire.org. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) > On Feb 22, 2017, at 4:28 AM, David Haslam wrote: > > I still cannot access the CrossWire Bug Tracker. > > Please advise when this is going to be fixed. > > Best regards, > > David

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
But not if the logical syllogism is flawed! It really was a case of affirming the consequent. Might be elegant, but elegance can sometimes lead us astray. Several major security vulnerabilities in high value services are due to a similar cause. Blessings! David -- View this message in

Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: FinRK

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
I have emailed Tuomas, with cc: to refdoc. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Module-upload-FinRK-tp4656687p4656791.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing

Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: FinRK

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
That may be so. But at least I have made the observation visible. I will also report the matter to Tuomas Airaksinen by email. His address is provided in the conf file. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Module-upload-FinRK-tp4656687p4656790.html

Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: CzeCEP

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
Thanks to "Module Team" for the further correction. There's now a minor inconsistency in these lines with regard to the release date. SwordVersionDate=2017-02-21 History_1.5.3=(2017-02-22) correction to conf file David PS. I observed that modules CzeB21 and CzeCSP were also updated today.

Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: FinRK

2017-02-22 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
I think this is a message which should be directed at the module maintainer, not at the module team. Thie might intentional or mnight be artefact. I have no clue of Finnish. > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2017 um 10:07 Uhr > Von: "David Haslam" > An:

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire Bug Tracker upgrade

2017-02-22 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
> Von: "David Haslam" > Please advise when this is going to be fixed I second this. Any discussion re a soon to come release leads usually to a plethora of bug fixes. This is currently impossible Peter ___ sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: FinRK

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
FYI. The 123 instances of "- " are found in the 122 verses listed by diatheke in the attached text file. One verse has this twice. FinRK.txt David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
> Von: "David Haslam" > A certain elegance, eh? Absolutely Yes, it is an afterthought for a feature which had a specific purpose, but it is in its own right a reasonably enough purpose. Specifically, using the engine to determine module features means that 1) None

Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: FinRK

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
Thanks to the Module Team, the FinRK module has been updated with the required correction to the conf file. NB. The new version was uploaded yesterday, but the file still has the earlier SwordVersionDate=2017-02-17 This should have been changed to SwordVersionDate=2017-02-21 David -- View

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire Bug Tracker upgrade

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
I still cannot access the CrossWire Bug Tracker. Please advise when this is going to be fixed. Best regards, David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/CrossWire-Bug-Tracker-upgrade-tp4656681p4656783.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
A certain elegance, eh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent :) David Prov 31:30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised. -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] NASB

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
The internet is rife with plagiarised works that are posted online without any provenance! It's important to CrossWire that each of our modules has a provenance for its source text which must be one that is hosted by a reputable agency with a clearly demonstrated direct interest in the work. An

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
It's not just how the filter was compiled into diatheke. The same bug also occurs in Xiphos itself. e.g. In the word *τῳ* in this verse (2TGreek): Mt 1:18 Του δε Ιησου Χριστου η γενεσις ουτως ην. μνηστευθεισης της μητρος αυτου Μαριας τῳ Ιωσηφ, πριν η συνελθειν αυτους ευρεθη εν γαστρι εχουσα

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Thanks Troy,  On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 16:36 -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > The filter is meant to be used on > UTF-8 Greek text.  I certainly receive the suggestion it might be > used in another case, as you suggest, and would consider that an > improvement, if we ever have a solid use case.

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents and non-Greek modules

2017-02-22 Thread David Haslam
The UTF8GreekAccents filter also fails to remove one particular Greek diacritic. At least, that's the case for how it works within diatheke 4.7 distributed with Xiphos 4.0.4 After the normalization step, it actually leaves in the following: U+0345 ͅ COMBINING GREEK YPOGEGRAMMENI This a