Re: [sword-devel] SWORD lib does not compile without ICU

2009-04-27 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, DM Smith wrote: >> I was testing the compile of osis2mod without ICU, by commenting out ICU in >> usrinst.sh and I get the following error: >> I know I advocate that ICU is necess

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD lib does not compile without ICU

2009-04-27 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, DM Smith wrote: > I was testing the compile of osis2mod without ICU, by commenting out ICU in > usrinst.sh and I get the following error: > I know I advocate that ICU is necessary, but Making UTF necessary is not a happy possiblity... currently ICU 4 fails to

Re: [sword-devel] Release-critical TODO items (updated mod2osis patch)

2009-04-26 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > Greg Hellings wrote: > >> I have some patches on >> crosswire.org/~ghellings that used to apply back in about r2150 range. > > OK, I just grabbed it and beat it into submission a little... now it > applies to

Re: [sword-devel] Release-critical TODO items

2009-04-26 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > >>> Is there is list of all known release-critical bugs and TODO items >>> somewhere? > >> No, the bugtracker is clean now for critical 1.6.x changes, as far as I >> know (right?).  We're only fixing feedback we

Re: [sword-devel] Library Doxygen documentation

2009-04-26 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Greg Hellings > wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jonathan Marsden >> wrote: >>> Hmmm, the website started working again.  Good. >>> >>>>

Re: [sword-devel] Library Doxygen documentation

2009-04-26 Thread Greg Hellings
Jonathan, On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > Greg Hellings wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Greg Hellings >> wrote: > >>>> A quick s/GnomeSword/Xiphos/ is probably called for :) > >>> That would have to be

Re: [sword-devel] Library Doxygen documentation

2009-04-25 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jonathan Marsden > wrote: >> Hmmm, the website started working again.  Good. >> >>> I now have copies of the Doxygen generation from 1.6.0RC2 and HEAD >>> r2337

Re: [sword-devel] Library Doxygen documentation

2009-04-25 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > Hmmm, the website started working again.  Good. > >> I now have copies of the Doxygen generation from 1.6.0RC2 and HEAD >> r2337 (the current as of a few minutes ago) available in >> http://www.crosswire.org/~ghellings/. > > http://www.cr

[sword-devel] Library Doxygen documentation

2009-04-25 Thread Greg Hellings
Greetings from your neighborhood Doxygen generator: I now have copies of the Doxygen generation from 1.6.0RC2 and HEAD r2337 (the current as of a few minutes ago) available in http://www.crosswire.org/~ghellings/. Just follow the links when you get there. As always, you're more than welcome to h

Re: [sword-devel] mod2osis output does not validate??

2009-04-25 Thread Greg Hellings
No, you're not. It's been a little while since I updated my patches, but you can check in http://www.crosswire.org/~ghellings/ for some mod2osis patches. They're not perfect, and they're quite silly if the original was not OSIS (though I was half-way to getting ThML to work properly when I last t

Re: [sword-devel] Mac build

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Hellings
DM, On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:50 PM, DM Smith wrote: > Greg, > This is close, but I think a few changes are needed to satisify Mac users: > 1)The name should consistently be BibleTime, In the title bar it is > bibletime (all lower case). (This shoule be easily fixed.) I don't have write access

Re: [sword-devel] Mac build

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Hellings
ersevering through with me! =) --Greg > -- DM > > > > On Apr 23, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > >> I've now uploaded a version that doesn't require DBus.  Oddly - when I >> move my /opt directory (where my development headers, libraries, etc >

Re: [sword-devel] Mac build

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Hellings
to track down to get icons working. --Greg On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > DM, > > Thanks - obviously the crash is somewhere in DBus.  I'm not certain > what DBus is, but I know what it isn't: native to Macs.  BibleTime > doesn't seem to need it

Re: [sword-devel] Notice in licence agreement

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > > > 2009/4/23 Eeli Kaikkonen >> >> "BibleTime is released under the GPL licence.You can download and use (but >> not distribute) the program for personal, private, public or commercial >> purposes without restrictions.You can give away or

Re: [sword-devel] Mac build

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Hellings
ossibly we can remove the dependency on the Mac side as well. --Greg On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM, DM Smith wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:57 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > >> I've rebuilt the BibleTime for Mac distribution.  It should be up on >> http://www.crosswire.org/~gh

Re: [sword-devel] Mac build

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Hellings
Oops, I think that version wasn't able to see its .svg files. I'm uploading a repackaged version that can. --Greg On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > I've rebuilt the BibleTime for Mac distribution.  It should be up on > http://www.crosswire.org

[sword-devel] Mac build

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Hellings
I've rebuilt the BibleTime for Mac distribution. It should be up on http://www.crosswire.org/~ghellings/bibletime/BibleTime_Mac_Beta.dmg This time it's a standard Drag 'n' Drop installer, and all the files required *should* be included in the Application Bundle. If you're on a PPC Mac, I don't t

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS looks daunting. Can I import from existing VPL format?

2009-04-22 Thread Greg Hellings
John, I'll leave someone else to address the possible issues with e-Sword. We are not e-Sword, nor affiliated with e-Sword nor do we wish to be. On a different note - it sounds like the toughest part for you will be the vast amount of automated work required to reformat each verse into an OSIS ve

Re: [sword-devel] BibleTime Windows and Mac packages

2009-04-18 Thread Greg Hellings
day and leave in the early AM for a flight to Washington DC for a job interview, so I might not get all the issues with the Mac and Windows versions hammered out until I return from that. Thanks for the feedback to you and Martin and the others on this thread, it helps immensely! --Greg > >

Re: [sword-devel] BibleTime Windows and Mac packages

2009-04-18 Thread Greg Hellings
Martin, On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Martin Zibricky wrote: > win32 installer: > - is it feasible to use language according to system locale? > - does cpack allow for nsis to choose language for installation? For the installer - I saw no such options with CPack. There is a way to insert cu

Re: [sword-devel] Windows ntfs utf16 file or path name issue

2009-04-17 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: > >> Xiphos has patched the Sword library to handle all utf16 pathnames >> correctly on Windows. I reproduced this with BibleTime on Windows, so it's >> not Xiphos alone. Greg Hellings to

[sword-devel] SVN with BibleTime on Mac

2009-04-13 Thread Greg Hellings
Built (without tests) and installed on Mac OS X. Updated to SVN Head with BibleTime and built. It opens Bibles fine and Genbooks also. I tried to install some passages from the CrossWire site with the bookshelf manager, but it fails to make the connection and just stares at me (I believe this is

[sword-devel] SWORD 1.6.0RC1

2009-04-13 Thread Greg Hellings
Tried building on Mac from the command-line (I think that Manfred is moving toward using the IDE, but command-line is probably easiest for most people, since the library uses autotools which specializes in Unix makefiles). The library built and compiled fine, but the icutest doesn't build. It com

Re: [sword-devel] A few comments about 1.6.0-RC1

2009-04-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > Hi all! > > A few comments about the recent sword tarball. I haven't done any > testing yet, just compiling =D. > > A new tool? List-missing gave this: > -./usr/bin/vs2osisreftxt > > There files are present in the tarball. I'm wondering wh

Re: [sword-devel] Bibletime 2.0.alpha3 FTBFS with sword 1.6.0RC1 library

2009-04-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: > Jonathan Marsden wrote: >> >> I'm seeing a problem building BT 2.0.alpha3 with the new 1.6.0RC1 SWORD >> library code.  At this point I have no idea if this is my bad packaging, >> or an issue with the new library, or an issue with BT reveal

Re: [sword-devel] key parse failure, -r2304

2009-04-08 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Thanks Karl.  There have been some changes in verse parsing lately that I'm > not positive we've considered all the repercussions.  We need to add some > more tests to our testsuite, specifically versekeytest.cpp to be sure things > operat

Re: [sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-07 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > Chris Little wrote: >> We post Windows binaries because most Windows users don't have a >> compiler. We don't post Linux binaries because most Linux users _do_ >> have a compiler (or could get one quickly and easily). I don't >> a

Re: [sword-devel] File Compression (Was: Making Import Easier)

2009-04-07 Thread Greg Hellings
Mike, On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Mike Hart wrote: > > My original point was (supposed to be): > > Beta modules are easier to troubleshoot if they are not compressed. > > Therefore: > > If you (someone, anyone, all of us together) make a menu option in a GUI to > automagically create a modul

Re: [sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-06 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM, DM Smith wrote: > Matthew Talbert wrote: >> >> Folks, I don't appreciate this. I never intended to imply that >> Jonathon's patches wouldn't be welcome. I was simply quoting what I >> assumed to be CrossWire policy. "Making a high barrier of entry" is >> mentioned

[sword-devel] File Compression (Was: Making Import Easier)

2009-04-06 Thread Greg Hellings
ut the .zip files that are downloaded from the website, that's because we're sending a directory structure of files through to the client instead of just a single file. --Greg > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Greg Hellings wrote: > >> From: Greg Hellings >> Subject: [sword

[sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-06 Thread Greg Hellings
DM and others involved in the import process -- I was just chatting with Matthew Talbert about the process of making module import a much easier task than it is now. Currently, most of us are familiar with the process we go through when a new person tries to make a module. They often fall into o

Re: [sword-devel] How to reverse engineer e-Sword's format (no illegality involved)

2009-04-06 Thread Greg Hellings
Chris, You seem to have hit directly upon the point of it -- the format is known, not "reverse engineered." The officially distributed versions have a "password" but that password is only used by Access to block seeing into the file's structure. It is not used to encrypt or hide the data in any

Re: [sword-devel] e-Sword support by The Sword Project

2009-04-06 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM, jonathon wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 15:35, Greg Hellings  wrote: >> Any particular reason you recommend so strongly against it? > > The major reasons are: > * Copyright issues; What is being talked about is patching an open source libr

Re: [sword-devel] e-Sword support by The Sword Project

2009-04-06 Thread Greg Hellings
Jonathon, On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:53 AM, jonathon wrote: > All: > > I just found the following thread: > http://groups.google.com/group/sword-frontend-developers/browse_thread/thread/3698455e2c4a22e8 > > Whilst I can understand why supporting e-Sword sounds like a good > idea, I _VERY_ strongl

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification

2009-03-16 Thread Greg Hellings
DM, On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:03 PM, DM Smith wrote: > I've been looking at the code regarding Alternate Versification (aka av11n > and v11n; I've seen these abbreviations by Troy, Chris and others). > > It looks solid. The purpose of this note is to give it a big thumbs up. > > Basically here i

Re: [sword-devel] [sword-support] deuterocanonical support

2009-03-16 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Matthew Talbert wrote: >> >> As far as our version scheme, we used to follow linux kernel version >> standards of having x.y.z, even y as stable and odd as development.  As the >> linux kernel no longer does this, I supposed we still follow linux kernel >> version

Re: [sword-devel] [sword-support] deuterocanonical support

2009-03-16 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Chris Little wrote: > > > Greg Hellings wrote: >> >> If not 1.6 or 2.0... then could you possibly explain to me the rhyme >> or reason given to the versioning system? > > The minor version indicates whether we're in a deve

Re: [sword-devel] [sword-support] deuterocanonical support

2009-03-15 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Chris Little wrote: > > > Ben Morgan wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Chris Little wrote: >> >> >> >>    Barry Drake wrote: >> >>        Hi Chris ... >> >>        Chris Little wrote: >> >>            We plan to have this ready for our next releas

Re: [sword-devel] what problem are you trying to solve? (Re: encryption and integrity checking.)

2009-03-11 Thread Greg Hellings
A few technical observations about your problem On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Karl's question is probably the one I will need to answer first: > > What problem do I want to solve? > > a) A bible which has not been (will not be) distributed sufficiently on > paper to a

Re: [sword-devel] Poetry and indented lines

2009-03-10 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: > Yes, I considered that means of markup, but it didn't produce the result I > was looking for in the front-ends I was targeting, which is why I went for > the level="4" attribute. This is one of the tensions with XML--function is > favored over

Re: [sword-devel] compiling sword library with CLucene

2009-03-07 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Matthew Talbert wrote: > I misread that sword actually compiled. Upon closer look, I see it > failed with precisely the same errors I expected. > > Greg, I would be interested in knowing whether BT is using clucene > compiled without Unicode support. The easiest wa

Re: [sword-devel] compiling sword library with CLucene

2009-03-07 Thread Greg Hellings
MMital, I had the same problem linking CLucene into Bibletime. The solution was simple, although not self-evident. I'm going to guess that you are building the CLucene library with the provided project file in clucene-core-0.9.21b\win32. This is, strangely, not an overly effective way to do it.

[sword-devel] SWORD ICU question

2009-02-28 Thread Greg Hellings
So I was noticing in Troy's comments his mention of building SWORD source with sword-icu in a parallel directory. Is that still necessary? I built the Visual Studio 1.5.11 version of SWORD in the DEBUG with ICU target, not having sword-icu on my machine at all, and it seemed to have compiled with

Re: [sword-devel] Getting rid of BibleCS (BT for windows)

2009-02-28 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: > Quoting Geoffrey W Hasstings : > >> Do you have an idea when it will be available for test on windows vista. >> >> > > Greg H said he could do it Sunday evening. There exists already one package > but the icons don't work and it crashes too

[sword-devel] Last Windows Huzzah for tonight

2009-02-25 Thread Greg Hellings
Sorry to cross-post this, but there is information that's probably important to both the library and to Bibletime. Attached are files (a patch, a replacement file and a narrative) related to my building of SWORD, Bibletime and associated things in Visual Studio. Drudging through the details of Bu

Re: [sword-devel] tests build error

2009-02-23 Thread Greg Hellings
Manfred, On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > Hi Greg. > > malloc.h has to be available, it is part of libc. > > Candit:~ mbergmann$ find /usr/include/* -name "malloc.h" > /usr/include/malloc/malloc.h > /usr/include/objc/malloc.h > /usr/include/sys/malloc.h I was bouncing a

[sword-devel] tests build error

2009-02-22 Thread Greg Hellings
I was compiling 1.5.11 on my Mac today and it choked during building the tests on icutest.cpp, complaining that it didn't have a header malloc.h. Normally I wouldn't be too concerned with that, but SWORD has given me no end of problems linking against ICU on the Mac in the past, I'd really like to

Re: [sword-devel] ICU transliteration resources

2009-02-19 Thread Greg Hellings
Matthew and Chris, On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Chris Little wrote: > > > Matthew Talbert wrote: >> >> Thanks for the reply. It is much as I suspicioned. I do have Visual >> Studio, and I was able to easily compile ICU with that, however it did >> not give me an icudt that I could see. Perhap

Re: [sword-devel] Mac Autogen question

2009-02-18 Thread Greg Hellings
To half answer my questions - the autogen.sh warnings are still there: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > So I know about 0.001% of what there is to know about autotools, so I > don't know what the following means, or even if it should be thought > importan

[sword-devel] Mac Autogen question

2009-02-18 Thread Greg Hellings
So I know about 0.001% of what there is to know about autotools, so I don't know what the following means, or even if it should be thought important. But I just updated to -r2267 SVN on my Mac and ran autogen.sh and got the following: *** Recreating libtool libtoolize libtoolize: putting auxiliar

Re: [sword-devel] remove buildtest

2009-02-18 Thread Greg Hellings
Manfred, On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > Hi Greg. > > > Am 18.02.2009 um 17:33 schrieb Greg Hellings: > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Manfred Bergmann >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> Is it

Re: [sword-devel] remove buildtest

2009-02-18 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > Hi. > > Is it possible to remove the buildtest from the build process of the > library? I thought there was a configure-time switch, but I could be mistaken on that. > > The ICU support on MacOSX is only partial and there is no licuio l

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 3.0.0 released

2009-02-15 Thread Greg Hellings
Barry, On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi Karl ... > > Karl Kleinpaste wrote: >> >> Saving/restoring all windows would require a good bit of extra >> bookkeeping but we can look into it. > > Thanks. I'm surprised I'm one of few who use the detached window. It might >

Re: [sword-devel] Temporarily suspend option filters

2009-02-01 Thread Greg Hellings
Troy, On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > David and Greg, > > RenderText can take a buffer to render rather than the current key. This is > useful for when you grab EntryAttributes from a module and want to process > them through the same filters for that module. But this

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS2MOD -a (augment) What happens to OSIS headers?

2009-01-27 Thread Greg Hellings
David, On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM, David Haslam wrote: > > If you use the -a switch in OSIS2MOD to augment a module, what happens to the > OSIS headers? > > Does the module retain only the original OSIS header, or does it augment it > with the new one? > Or, worse still, does it replace the

Re: [sword-devel] Module validation error on xmllint - what now?

2009-01-10 Thread Greg Hellings
...seeing the module text at that location might help, or the whole module text if the message doesn't give the exact location. It looks like it's claiming the error on line 65535 of Dari.osis.xml - which is an unusually suspect line number, being exactly the largest line number that can be repres

Re: [sword-devel] Sword Library on Windows Without Requiring Cygwin

2009-01-08 Thread Greg Hellings
It's all in how the gcc linker for cygwin works. Just pass it the option -mnocygwin (or something similar, like -mno-cygwin) and it won't require the cygwin.dll anymore. If that's not exact, just search online for it or through the man pages. I did the same thing for a while. --Greg On Thu, Ja

Re: [sword-devel] engine filters vs CSS

2009-01-07 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > One of the sore points from last autumn was a discussion about TEI > encoded dictionaries and how poorly they display in absence of good > filters - etc. You all remember. > > A couple of days ago I played a bit around with CSS, trying to s

Re: [sword-devel] Validating ThML and OSIS modules

2009-01-06 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Chris Little wrote: > As a content encoder, XML editors give me the best results when I want to > find encoding errors. They tend to give a better indication of patterns of > errors, whereas validators might only give the first error they identify and > then quit.

Re: [sword-devel] Concerns about Alternate Versification

2009-01-06 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Greg Hellings >> wrote: >>>> 4. Bible references from commentaries, etc. use this master versification. >>>

Re: [sword-devel] Concerns about Alternate Versification

2009-01-06 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Chris Little wrote: >> Basically, alternate versification support is phase 1. Mapping between >> versifications is phase 2. > > And I'm saying I don't believe it is ready for use without phase 2. And what I

Re: [sword-devel] Concerns about Alternate Versification

2009-01-06 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: > Executive summary: I do not believe that alternate versification is > useful without mapping between versifications, and I am not convinced > that it is useful doing alternate versification with Genbooks. > > All of the work and discussion t

Re: [sword-devel] New SWORD website - update

2009-01-05 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: >> >> This gives wiki edit functionality, some control for project leads with wiki >> perms, and a sense of useful moderation and staticness for the main site. >> >> Now how? > > If the wiki worked, I

Re: [sword-devel] New SWORD website - update

2008-12-31 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Dear Jerry, > > jhphx wrote: >> >> Chris wrote: >>> >>> I guess logic would dictate that the Wiki is dead and we should move >>> entirely to static pages. >> >> Both forms of pages have their place for the purposes of displaying these >>

Re: [sword-devel] New SWORD website - update

2008-12-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Or >> removing our portfolio of apps and subdividing them into a nice useful >> software finder, as you have done. This is why I preferred the old site >> style: basically CrossWire had only 1 main "brochure" page that tried to >> catch t

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS questions ?

2008-12-30 Thread Greg Hellings
I can answer one of your questions: On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Tonny Kohar wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know the usage of attribute type="x-split" subType="x-33" > from element for tagging eg: > > the > Holy > subType="x-33">Ghost > > so what is > - type attribute type="x-split" refers

Re: [sword-devel] module statistics

2008-12-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Joachim Ansorg wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> I did the first version of that script years ago. DM did some fixes not too >> long ago, I think. >> >> The error message says that the perl module readbackwards is not yet >> installed. I think that i

Re: [sword-devel] New Server

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Hellings
; > Thanks for your patience and your support during this migration. I think > we're about done, and things have gone quite smooth considering the fresh > install route we decide to take. Things feel squeaky clean on the new > server! I'm sure we will still catch things we for

Re: [sword-devel] New Install Manager Features

2008-12-23 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: >> Peter von Kaehne wrote: >>> I am right now in the process of updating the Doxygen documentation on >>> the website. I am sure this could be run in a scripted fashion >>> eventually and I will investigate this if it

Re: [sword-devel] New website - installation instructions

2008-12-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: > 2. The end user should have the final word after the initial phase. We > should think what happens when the user installs the first application, then > installs some modules with that, then installs another application, installs > modules wi

Re: [sword-devel] New website - installation instructions

2008-12-18 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Matthew Talbert wrote: >> SWORD plays fine on Windows if you point SWORD_PATH to where the >> modules are installed. Handling whether they are writable by the user >> is a system administration issue, and should be left that way. The >> only time when a user won

Re: [sword-devel] New website - installation instructions

2008-12-18 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Matthew Talbert wrote: > Having spent a good part of the day trouble-shooting issues all > related to this, I can say with certainty that SWORD does not play > well on Windows at the present. SWORD plays fine on Windows if you point SWORD_PATH to where the module

Re: [sword-devel] New website - installation instructions

2008-12-18 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Our engine has a number of ways which it can be configured and these all > work on all platforms. We don't remove support for some ways of > configuration on certain platforms-- including $HOME/.sword. If you have > something there, th

Re: [sword-devel] Building GnomeSword on Fedora 10

2008-12-18 Thread Greg Hellings
Try looking for a GNOME devel or something like that. --Greg On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:00 PM, fred smith wrote: > Hi! > > Trying to build GnomeSword (latest) from source on Fedora 10. > > i've downloaded, built, and installed Sword 1.5.11. > > I unpack gnomesword, run ./configure, and here's wh

Re: [sword-devel] Quick question on alternative versification

2008-12-17 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: > > > Chris Little wrote: >> >> >> Daniel Owens wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone give me some quick pointers on how to use xml2gbs to compile a >>> module with deuterocanonical material? I have a source file I itching to try >>> out, and for now I hav

Re: [sword-devel] Icon bar and redirects. (new website)

2008-12-11 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Greg Hellings wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >>> redirects - I have inserted HTML driven redirects but think it would be >>> better to have this as a server directive li

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website up and running

2008-12-11 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Greg Hellings wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >>>> Agree with the OS icons being jittery and needing to be made more obvious. >>> Not jittery anymore, but a nbetter solut

Re: [sword-devel] Icon bar and redirects. (new website)

2008-12-11 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > redirects - I have inserted HTML driven redirects but think it would be > better to have this as a server directive like .htacess. Is there a way > of doing this in Tomcat? Use response.sendRedirect("redirect://URL.here/to/a/page.html");

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website up and running

2008-12-11 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> Agree with the OS icons being jittery and needing to be made more obvious. > > Not jittery anymore, but a nbetter solution which is IE6 firm needs to > be found. Honestly? Do we really need to bend over backwards to support a browser th

Re: [sword-devel] problems with osis filters?

2008-12-09 Thread Greg Hellings
Martin, On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Martin Gruner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. > > I've got problems with Sword 1.5.11, which seem not to be present with 1.5.9. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/dev/sword/examples/cmdline$ ./lookup ESV "3Joh 1:1" > ==Raw=Entry=== > III John 1:1:

[sword-devel] My patches?

2008-12-02 Thread Greg Hellings
So I've submitted two different patches to the list recently - one on JIRA and the other directly on the list. The one on JIRA fixed a bug in localemgr and the one on the list fixed a few consistency issues as well as added requested support for osishtmlhref filters. I haven't heard one word from

[sword-devel] Filters Patch (RE: Small problem with section headers in an OSIS module)

2008-11-30 Thread Greg Hellings
I've been sitting on a number of tiny patches for the filters - mainly related to making my comparisons easier to automate for mod2osis.cpp, while I've been fixing that up. So here are some edits to the filters. osisplain.cpp and thmlplain.cpp are edited to bring them into line with the same form

Re: [sword-devel] summary

2008-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > DM Smith wrote: >> In an earlier posting I noted that without the ability to get the >> source it can be very difficult to tell where the problem originated. >> Most of our conf's don't give good enough links to the mate

Re: [sword-devel] Multiple Module Repositories

2008-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
This format is specific to the MacSword versions of the past. IIRC, MacSword is moving away from this system and into a system more in line with the other versions of SWORD front-ends. --Greg On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Peter von Kaehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Further request for deta

Re: [sword-devel] Maintaining Module Creation Sources and Scripts

2008-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 2:57 AM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Greg Hellings wrote: >> Just a question... >> >> Are both of these accessible to anyone interested? If a confused >> person can get the source used and the scripts, then run them

Re: [sword-devel] Maintaining Module Creation Sources and Scripts

2008-11-29 Thread Greg Hellings
Just a question... Are both of these accessible to anyone interested? If a confused person can get the source used and the scripts, then run them, they can probably figure that much out and have a look at their questions. But from the looks of it, the sources aren't accessible? --Greg On Sat, N

Re: [sword-devel] linking syntax

2008-11-28 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If we may take a moment to actually discuss development... > I think we may have a problem > > Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >> support for external links: >> >> There is currently no programmatic features in the engine whic

Re: [sword-devel] Next Release (was: Taming Wild Threads)

2008-11-28 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good suggestion Karl. Others sound like they would also like this. May > I ask first for some feedback regarding current state of TRUNK? I Troy, I just submitted a comment to the following: http://www.crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] summary

2008-11-28 Thread Greg Hellings
Matthew (and Chris), On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Several alternatives have been mentioned. Instead of trying to deal > with issues that might be present in any proposed solution, you have > bluntly rejected all proposals. > > Chris, primarily becau

Re: [sword-devel] Institutes question?

2008-11-28 Thread Greg Hellings
Eeli, On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Eeli Kaikkonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you (or someone else) can, try GnomeSword and go through the keys > one by one. Alas, since I'm running sword-svn, and no one is building against it (only BibleTime with the patch), I can't check in any other fr

Re: [sword-devel] Win version of osis2mod

2008-11-27 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Tonny Kohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Peter von Kaehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Never used the windows version, but my Linux version states the >> following (see below) when run without argument >> > > Where I c

[sword-devel] Institutes question?

2008-11-27 Thread Greg Hellings
I have been thumbing through Calvin's Institutes and have noticed the following things... In www.crosswire.org/study, when viewing Institutes, the navigation keys on the left are totally messed up. I tried viewing in SVN versions of BibleTime and the keys look correct, but going to the Prefaces s

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS upload and validation facility

2008-11-27 Thread Greg Hellings
Validator: http://www.validome.org/xml/ On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:15 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the current events wiki page there is a task for an OSIS upload > facility for UBS texts. Not sure where it is going, but I'd like to > suggest the an opportunity for someone: > > Crea

Re: [sword-devel] Getting stuff done (Re: External links)

2008-11-26 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Chris Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Matthew Talbert wrote: >> I would just like to point out again that there is very little >> transparency in how bugs are updated and fixed in modules. Neither >> does it appear to happen quickly. For example, someone rep

Re: [sword-devel] Next Release (was: Taming Wild Threads)

2008-11-26 Thread Greg Hellings
I fully support the soon-release mantra. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good suggestion Karl. Others sound like they would also like this. May > I ask first for some feedback regarding current state of TRUNK? I > believe we have a fairly optimize

Re: [sword-devel] Mac linking bug? Autotools bug?

2008-11-25 Thread Greg Hellings
Replying to myself... On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm building the current SVN on my Mac and have the following issue - > autogen.sh does not find libtoolize, but the autogen.sh script > continues anyway, generating a conf

[sword-devel] Mac linking bug? Autotools bug?

2008-11-25 Thread Greg Hellings
I'm building the current SVN on my Mac and have the following issue - autogen.sh does not find libtoolize, but the autogen.sh script continues anyway, generating a configure script, but no Makefile.in because of missing ltmain.sh. Now, with Macports intsalled, I have glibtoolize in my path, which

Re: [sword-devel] Getting stuff done (Re: External links)

2008-11-25 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> None of this requires engine changes, but rather that we extend the >> historical conceptual idea of a reference beyond bible:key. >> This is a frontend change. Just as gnomesword decomposes a reference >> from ThML swo

Re: [sword-devel] Getting stuff done (Re: External links)

2008-11-25 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Matthew Talbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The point I was making was not that you can't encode it, but you lose the >> semantic significance of it. The user can tell that test was added, >> but the program can't - unless that is the only way is ever used - whic

Re: [sword-devel] Getting stuff done (Re: External links)

2008-11-25 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Ben Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> None. Information is all relative to the context. You lose no >> information if you encode printed KJV

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