Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

2012-03-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Kahunapule Michael Johnson writes: > Chronic or excessive bugs, or bugs that are serious but don't get > fixed are a major problem. > Designed-in bugs that don't get fixed are show-stopper problems. I would be interested in -- entertained by -- even one example of any Sword program or library who

Re: [sword-devel] Not showing up title of chapter

2012-03-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Troy A. Griffitts" writes: > Yes. If you compile xiphos against sword svn, it should be fixed. Yeah. Matěj, as a first effort, you need to upgrade to 3.1.5, just on general principles, because a great deal has been done since 3.1.4. Beyond that, building your own Sword library from SVN is beco

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Troy A. Griffitts" writes: > Karl, I tried it on the new KJV and got stuff out from RenderText. Yes, I confirm that the update makes KJV 2.4 display Psalm headings. Thanx. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.or

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Daniel Owens writes: > But BibleTime, Xiphos, and BibleCS simply do not display the text of > Canonical psalm titles. That is a severe bug. Xiphos obtains headings using the canonical reference mod.getEntryAttributes()["Heading"]["Preverse"]["0"] as passed through mod.RenderText(). Period. Troy

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Users Manual considered confusing

2012-03-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith writes: > I'm not sure you're wanting a reply or just wanting to rip on OSIS as > a "standard." Not at all. Consider: I have a long history in IP communications, whose RFCs are The Definition Of Interoperability. The idea of ambiguity in such a field is virtually anathema. In the long

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Users Manual considered confusing

2012-03-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith writes: > There is ambiguity about a title that is before the first verse in a chapter. > Titles for sections should be within a section div. This solves the > ambiguity problem for titles before the first verse. Shouldn't The Standard have eliminated the ambiguity in the first place, r

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
>> There are several versions of osis2mod about which produce different results. > Revision 2358, 28 April 2009: The x-preverse div was added. ... > Revision 2519, 4 June 2010: The x-preverse div was commented out. ... > Revision 2668, 12 Nov 2011: The x-preverse div was put back in. > Where does

[sword-devel] open request: Xiphos builder for Macintosh

2012-02-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
We get somewhat routine inquiries about whether Xiphos can be made available for Macs. At this time, we have no developer with a Mac so as to do the packaging necessary. That said, it is perfectly possible to build Xiphos for Macs: http://surgut.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/xiphos-on-mac-os/ But wh

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 3.1.5 is released

2012-02-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Steven P. Ulrick" writes: > When I attempt to build Xiphos from SVN, I get the following error if I > use the included "waf": > File "/usr/bin/xml2po", line 191, in > main(sys.argv[1:]) > File "/usr/bin/xml2po", line 88, in main > from xml2po import Main > ImportError: No module name

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 3.1.5 is released

2012-02-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam writes: > I had McCheyne installed as a Daily Devotional module (when I was using > Xiphos v3.1.4) > In Xiphos 3.1.5 for Windows this is not visible anywhere! If it's not visible in the sidebar module list or the mod.mgr, then you don't have it installed. There is nothing about modu

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 3.1.5 is released

2012-02-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Karl Kleinpaste writes: > Building against latest Sword SVN is straightforward. > Building against not-the-latest requires that you add > -DNO_SWORD_SET_RENDER_NOTE_NUMBERS=1. Unfortunately, I am a bit of a dummy. I had a glitch in the build necessities for prior-to-yesterday's S

[sword-devel] Xiphos 3.1.5 is released

2012-02-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
After entirely too long a delay, we have finally released Xiphos 3.1.5. Windows users can get the installer immediately: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomesword/files/Xiphos/3.1.5/xiphos-3.1.5-win32.exe/download Or get the source tarball: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomesword/files/Xiphos/

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I just committed an updated patch to accomplish this, with Troy's OK. He didn't like abusing RenderText() (and he was right), so it is implemented as a trivial setRenderNoteNumbers(bool) in each of the 7 *htmlhref and *xhtml filters. ___ sword-devel mail

Re: [sword-devel] lang processing

2012-02-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Daniel Owens writes: > It is an enhancement for the sake of the user experience. !! _*/THERE/*_ !! Far too often we forget this axiom, maxim, principle. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Troy A. Griffitts" writes: > Again, I am not arguing against displaying publisher provided labels. > I am arguing against forcing all frontends to display publisher > provided labels. If I were an author/publisher, I would walk away from Sword on that basis alone. I'm not kidding one iota. I (

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Greg Hellings writes: > You are using Lockman and the NASB as your example because of its > prevalence all over the web. [a] There is indeed an irritating difference between print publication and electronic publication in footnote standards. I argued a bit some years ago with bible.org people ov

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Attached is an updated patch to do this as suggested by Greg. It makes RenderText() take another default-value argument. No change to old behavior, unless you explicitly provide that (4th) parameter as "true". The patch sets a field in SWModule, which is then pulled into the filters' user data s

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"scribe...@gmail.com" writes: > My thought on this is similar to strongs. Don't show the numbers. They > are left overs from the era of print-only. I disagree about that. Footnote/xref markers are obligatory in a very large variety of publications, regardless of print or electronic form, exactly

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
To date, we have DM in support of n=X content in *n/*x, as well as Brian noting that consistency should be supported in that note numbers provide the common language of note reference. No one has suggested that such an update is a bad idea, though Troy wondered aloud the other night in #xiphos abo

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-05 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
When I got home late last evening, I found that Troy and Greg had had a conversation about this in #xiphos. Troy theorized and Greg confirmed that Xiphos must be calling RenderText() too often; I hadn't noticed this -- it happens in a "bridge" routine in Xiphos' backend by which to call the engine

[sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Quite a while ago, Xiphos gained the capability to post-process the *n/*x that come out of the engine so as to add the n=X identifiers that emanate out of OSIS and ThML markup. This is a fine and welcome idea, but we have run into a problem. Some modules have single-section content that is really

Re: [sword-devel] Other lemmas?

2012-01-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam writes: > Is there an example module that uses *other lemmas*? > I'd like to study how the filter *OSISLemma* works in practice for > some of the front-ends. TischMorph and 2TGreek use ThMLLemma. You will find differences in provided lemmas in these 5 verses, as will be seen by sele

Re: [sword-devel] Promoting Bibles with Av11n?

2011-12-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Greg Hellings writes: > Xiphos does not support it, either. Xiphos will, within a month or so after we get 3.1.5 out the door. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to

Re: [sword-devel] Support for vision impaired users?

2011-12-06 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Nic Carter writes: > Are people able to make a brief comment about what the different > front-ends can do and I can pass this info on to him? Xiphos has text-to-speech; it requires that Festival be installed. See Xiphos' Read Aloud option on the View menu, which will induce reading of verses as

Re: [sword-devel] Japanese texts updated?

2011-10-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
It would be mildly more helpful if: [1] We had version stamps on all modules, and [2] InstallSize was provided in *.conf. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubs

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS tables?

2011-10-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Brian J Dumont writes: > You could sort of make one in Xiphos, but it was so ugly as to be > totally unusable. Considering that Xiphos really doesn't care what the engine feeds it, the entirety of whether tables work in Xiphos is bound up in whether OSIS->HTML filtration is sufficiently precise.

Re: [sword-devel] URL's in Commentary

2011-10-13 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Greg Hellings writes: > When Xiphos 3.1.5 is released the same will be true in it (display in > Xiphos <= 3.1.4 is no different from opening a page in Firefox unless > the user has compiled against GTKHTML or is using the Windows build). Well, no. Xiphos' main_url_handler() notices special sword

Re: [sword-devel] Strongs and Real Strongs

2011-10-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Aaron Christianson writes: > If you don't know the Hebrew or Greek alphabets, it is possible that > the Strong's transliterations will be more helpful to you (though > those may also be in the 'real' versions, come to think of it). As StrongsRealGreek's "about" observes: Technical format rende

Re: [sword-devel] Strongs and Real Strongs

2011-10-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
The "Real" versions in the Xiphos repository use real Hebrew and Greek; the regular modules in the CrossWire repository use transliteration. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Ins

Re: [sword-devel] Mid-verse section headings?

2011-10-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
No, mid-verse headings are not handled at all well in Sword. Frankly, the idea of a (modern) editor choosing to insert a heading at such an exact point is absurd. We're lucky to get reasonable paragraph boundaries most of the time at our already-artificial verse boundaries, and section headings a

Re: [sword-devel] Detecting Problem Characters

2011-09-23 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Troy A. Griffitts" writes: > This script removes all \r's from your file You sure do like to work awfully hard. sed -i -e 's/\r$//' foo.txt ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] Module management in Xiphos - clarification required

2011-09-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
i suppose it was intended to refer to the per-category, per-language collapsing of lists so that they are not seen. if it bothers you, change it. i don't care. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/lis

Re: [sword-devel] Difficult Greek question

2011-09-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Chris Little writes: > I just checked two print editions of Strong's, from different dates & > publishers. Both have the correct 2992, so I think it's safe to > correct. It's at least reasonable to assume your print edition is from the > same publisher as these texts' print source, though. FWIW,

Re: [sword-devel] Difficult Greek question

2011-09-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Martin Denham writes: > The user has suggested another possible OCR error. The error report makes > sense but the Sword Strongs module appears to contain the same as other > Strongs I have checked on the internet. Here is the users's report: > 3532 Nikolaos nik-ol'-ah-os from 3534 and *2994*; v

Re: [sword-devel] Difficult Greek question

2011-09-05 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
FYI, StrongsRealGreek in the Xiphos repo has been updated, version 1.4-110905, to reflect this fix (3156, ref 3164 => 3161) as well as a similar, previously reported glitch in 5043 (ref 5098 => 5088). ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.o

Re: [sword-devel] Difficult Greek question

2011-09-05 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
It's an OCR error. I just checked my real (print) Strong's. The entry for 3156 notes being a shorter form of *3161* (as suggested), not 3164. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] Open Hebrew Lexicon.

2011-09-04 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
If you peek at the "About" information for StrongsRealHebrew, you'll find that it's taken from Jens Grebner's version, auto-edited with a script to produce the ThML content comprising the module. If you wish to work from this base, use that source directly; any update from there is what I would re

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.6.2rc1 (a.k.a. The SWORD Project for Windows)

2011-07-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam writes: > btw. Two of the French Bibles with av11n do not display a file size There is (supposed to be) a nightly script which updates the content of all *.conf for valid InstallSize. If these are recent updates (i.e. today) they will be corrected tomorrow.

Re: [sword-devel] ESV module - 12 verses that start with a comma

2011-07-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I added a comment to the bug. It's a problem that's been mentioned before. The problem is the encoding of side-by-side xrefs as: ..., ... where the comma is stand-alone, outside the constraint of either of the 2 notes. ___ sword-devel mailing list: swo

Re: [sword-devel] FMT_XHTML filter set

2011-06-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Greg Hellings writes: > What does keeping htmlhref the way it is gain? The wisdom of caution. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings

[sword-devel] CLucene crash

2011-06-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
A Xiphos bug report... https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3291274&group_id=5528&atid=105528 ...observes that searching for "[est]" in FreJND, without specifying regular expression, causes Xiphos to crash. He's right: #0 0x003adac74749 in lucene_tcslwr(wchar_t*) () from /us

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos navigation and av11n modules with different book order

2011-06-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam writes: > Has anyone else looked at the behaviour of the up/down navigation controls in > Xiphos when the current module is a Bible with non-KJV book order? Sure. It doesn't work. Xiphos is still pending av11n (non-KJV) support. Sorry. We're currently entering the final stages of

Re: [sword-devel] Font size specification inside

2011-06-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
""ref...@gmx.net"" writes: > Arabic and Chinese don't have small caps So how does content get rendered in those languages? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to un

[sword-devel] Font size specification inside

2011-06-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
We had a bug report against Xiphos, that changing the base font size when displaying RNKJV causes all text to resize _except_ divine names. That is, module markup contains e.g. Yahushua all over the place. What comes out of the engine for this includes its own font size specification, without rega

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: Re: Removing XULRunner from oneiric - call for help

2011-06-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Jonathan Marsden writes: > Is Xiphos going to be able to switch away from xulrunner Long in progress and coming along. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubsc

Re: [sword-devel] Catholic Versification - Prologue of Sirach, Lamentations

2011-06-17 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Mike Hart writes: > I'm working on importing the Catholic Public Domain Bible. There is already a CPDV module, in the Crosswire Experimental repository. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/s

Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Greg Hellings writes: > Perhaps for you. Some people don't like to put together pipes of that size One uses the weapons with which one is familiar. Between a one-line pipeline -vs- constructing a python program including several imports, knowledge of needed Sword methods (one of which you couldn

Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Karl Kleinpaste writes: > $ mod2imp KJV | grep '^\$' | tr -d '$' | grep : | head -2 | while read key ; > do read -u 17 line ; echo '$$$'"$key" "$line" ; done > text.vpl Oops, remove the &q

Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
python is too big a weapon for this. given: a. text.orig containing verse reference-less text. b. you're using bash. $ exec 17 text.vpl ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Angel Candelaria writes: > For some reason that didn't work $ cat text.vpl gen 1:1 in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth. john 3:16 for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son... $ sed -e 's/^\(.\+ [0-9]\+:[0-9]\+\) /\$\$\$\1\n/' < text.vpl > text.imp $ cat text

Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Angel Candelaria writes: > Is there a way I can add the required imp markup (I mean, the $$$ > before each verse and sections) in an automated way sed -e 's/^\(.\+ [0-9]\+:[0-9]\+\) /\$\$\$\1\n/' < text.vpl > text.imp ___ sword-devel mailing list: swor

Re: [sword-devel] FTBFS of SVN checkout on Fedora 15

2011-06-14 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Matej Cepl writes: > Hi, when trying to build the last checkout of xiphos SVN on Fedora 15, I We're late, and we know it, but it's being worked on. Eliminating xulrunner in favor of webkit once and for all, and dealing with F15's new GTK3 weirdnesses are driving us right now. Soon. ___

Re: [sword-devel] RVR2011

2011-06-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Mike Hart writes: > Perhaps if the section were renamed something less offensive it might > contain more works. Sectarian? or Unorthodox? The conf directive is in fact... Category=Cults / Unorthodox / Questionable Material ...as can be seen by actually looking at the *.conf for JST and Dia

[sword-devel] bible.org repo misconfigured

2011-06-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
There is a new note in forums that bible.org cannot be refreshed. Manually testing, the user is right: Name (ftp.bible.org:karl): anonymous 331 User anonymous OK. Password required Password: 530 Login authentication failed Login failed. Neither "anonymous" nor "ftp" can authenticate to

Re: [sword-devel] KJV and headings

2011-02-28 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith writes: > Look for the element. > You'll find it at a minimum in the Psalms. Although there are such headings, notably in Psalms, they do not come out of the engine in any obvious way. Psalm 4:1 contains To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm of David. But Xiphos, for one, expects

Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's commentaries

2011-02-21 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Bryan Fordham writes: > Do you know if there's been any effort to create a module for Calvin's > commentaries? Just installed PocketSword, and would love to have > Calvin's stuff on there. You simply have not looked. See the CrossWire Beta repository, known as "CrossWire 2" in PocketSword. _

Re: [sword-devel] Front-end localization during installation?

2011-02-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
To expand on Matthew a bit... It is an extraordinarily Windows-centric view, that we should try to do something _for one user_ during software installation _for the machine_. Let the application figure out user-specific stuff when the user runs it. In Linux, Xiphos (or BibleTime, or anything els

Re: [sword-devel] xref encoding (Re: The repository with Russian SWORD modules)

2011-01-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Karl Kleinpaste writes: > The difference, it seems, is just whether there is non-empty content > between . Amend, RSThcsK also lacks a comma separating the individual clauses. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.or

[sword-devel] xref encoding (Re: The repository with Russian SWORD modules)

2011-01-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Checking on the state of these modules, the first one I tried in Xiphos was RSThcsK. Xiphos crashed on it when I moused over an xref. I was in Gen 4:3 when it happened. Footnotes in RSThcsK are encoded e.g.: Compare to NASBnew, where a Gen 4:2 xref is encoded: Luke 11:50, 51 The differe

[sword-devel] ESV comma errors in paired xrefs

2011-01-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
ESV Isaiah 1:10a 10 Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of *xy, *xz Sodom! "*x_" are Xiphos' xrefs. The comma separating these two is not properly encoded as being part of the xref itself; if one turns off xrefs, the comma remains, creating a very odd, very wrong bit of punctuation. A simpl

Re: [sword-devel] can't do lucene Hebrew searches in KJV

2011-01-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
BTW, belated thanx to Nic for pointing that out for us. I have to note that the Strong's content isn't zero-prefixed so as to generate exactly-5-digits entries, either. Gen 1:1... | In the beginning God created the | heaven and the | earth. It's just an arbitrary, single, leading zero on all en

Re: [sword-devel] can't do lucene Hebrew searches in KJV

2011-01-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Peter von Kaehne" writes: >> Was his name Walther? > yes, I think so. "Oops." Please contact him again and let him know that the problem is understood, and is in fact pretty minor. I wish lemma searches would automatically prepend '0' without making the user worry about it. _

Re: [sword-devel] can't do lucene Hebrew searches in KJV

2011-01-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Peter von Kaehne" writes: > I hope that was not the same publisher I waxed lyrically to about the > joys of our software and how they could try it out on the KJV > This very morning. Was his name Walther? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@

[sword-devel] can't do lucene Hebrew searches in KJV

2011-01-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Someone came into #xiphos this morning to ask a few questions, one of which was how to search for a Hebrew Strong's reference. His example is H5062, "smite." We can't get any search results from KJV for Hebrew at all. I'm now experimenting with sword/examples/cmdline/search, having changed char

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Ben Morgan writes: > When this last came up was when it was decided to put the Abbreviation field > in the .conf files, but I don't know that > a) it was done in any of the conf files > b) any frontend authors added support for it > If a) happens, b) is likely to follow. [1010] [12:00 AM] awol:I

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Actually, there's a module with an even longer Description. "Practice" has: The Practice of the Presence of God: The Best Rule of Holy Life by Brother Lawrence (Nicholas Herman, 1605-1691) Gosh, that's annoyingly long. Greg Hellings writes: > One of my modules is [CONNOT] which is a decent ab

Re: [sword-devel] Module Display Names

2011-01-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Greg Hellings writes: > Description is overkill and probably not fit for display in a module > selection widget - a description for the module would go something > like: > "Dr. Doe's classic commentary on the book of Galatians from 1977. > Widely praised for its scholarliness and ecumenical appeal

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS links

2011-01-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Summarizing... a. The regex is a horror. b. The manual's definition is inconsistent, re: multiples. c. The () -vs- [] syntax is wrong. d. Whitespace isn't allowed at all. e. Ignoring [d], there is a transform to something that ought to work, but it's not known whether it actually does work. So.

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS links

2011-01-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith writes: > The problem with spaces in an osisRef is that a space is defined as the > separator between one reference and another. > E.g. osisRef="Rom.1.1 Rom.2.1-Rom.3.1" Then I would like to think that either URL-standard '+' or hex-encoded "%20" would work in place of a real space. ___

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS links

2011-01-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Matthew Talbert writes: > Am I understanding this correctly that you have keys with spaces, and > you put in NBSP and that all works in Xiphos? I thought that neither > normal spaces nor NBSP would actually work. I don't know how he edited it, but the import file has plain spaces, and they work f

Re: [sword-devel] Confessions etc

2011-01-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Peter von Kaehne writes: > I have submitted to Karl for Xiphos a commentary for the Westminster > Confession by Robert Shaw. Now available there. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-de

Re: [sword-devel] How to log out Strongs modules for development

2010-12-14 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Instone-Brewer writes: > BTW the Strongs Greek v.1.4 still lists 5054 (teknwn) as derived from > 5098. This should be derived from "5088". This is in error in all > online versions of Strongs The point is valid but the bogus xref is in 5043, not (double typo) 5054. ___

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-12-01 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Chris Little writes: > I really wouldn't say that the collective output of people producing > content in ThML for the Xiphos repository has any chance of countering the > trend of OSIS/TEI content produced for CrossWire (numerically speaking). It is not and never was any kind of competition. It

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-11-30 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Peter von Kaehne" writes: > I would much rather we produced good modules and filed endless numbers of > bug reports against any application and the library for non-compliance if > things which should work do not work, instead of targetting the oddities > and non-compliant aspects of each applicat

Re: [sword-devel] Markup Options

2010-11-30 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Greg Hellings writes: > 2) I can provide an external CSS stylesheet along with my module. > Then I could still use OSIS and, assuming well-defined use of HTML+CSS > classes being produced from OSIS by the engine, I could style the > module the way I desired. This would not require terribly much w

Re: [sword-devel] Config file for thml module

2010-11-29 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Chris Little writes: > ThML's fading value in other genre notwithstanding, it has almost > always been useless for Bibles. I have generated 44 ThML Bible modules. They look quite good. My spin of NET/NETnote is a heckuva lot better than bible.org's own -- far more featureful, and more true to e

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 3.1.4 binaries

2010-11-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
It is nothing more than a module markup flaw, and has presumably been there since the dawn of time, considering that ASV is an ancient GBF module. As seen coming out of the engine, this is what Xiphos is given to work with. Notice the opening , 3 lines down, which is not closed. Bear in mind tha

Re: [sword-devel] HTTP Transport support

2010-11-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
DM Smith writes: > InstallSize is also fairly recent and not all confs have it. All 3 CrossWire repos (regular, beta, experimental) and the Xiphos repo have InstallSize support. Whether other publishers put it to use is an unknown. For CrossWire repos, it's a nightly cron-driven script. All *.

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website showing all known modules available

2010-11-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Jonathan Morgan writes: > I tend to dislike software that forces me to search in certain ways: > whether it's "You must select the language before we show you what's > available" or "You must select the type of book" or "You must select > the publisher's repository", there will be some times when

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website showing all known modules available

2010-11-07 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On the one hand, I appreciate a desire for a combined all-repos view of what's available. It would be useful in some ways. On the other hand, I find it problematic for several reasons. - It depends on finding all repos operating. Like it or not, repos go away for short or long periods, and the

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Matthew Talbert writes: > Perhaps this isn't any better, but you can see the entire list here: > http://ftp.xiphos.org/sword/zip/ Of course, it doesn't use very > descriptive names, but it slightly more user friendly than opening the > tar.gz. Well, again, I don't want a _human_ cracking open mod

Re: [sword-devel] Publishing User Content

2010-11-05 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Troy A. Griffitts" writes: > I don't consider End Users Publishing and Publishing End Users the > same thing :) Well... I suppose I consider them alternate cases of the same underlying technical capability: "I've got content that you can get." > I believe your idea was for allowing users to pu

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Troy A. Griffitts" writes: > Matthew Talbert had a great suggestion on IRC last night to simply add > a 'prep for publishing' (or in his words simply "publish") option to > the InstallMgr interface... It's great, but funny, to see all the sudden interest in publishing users' content. I've talke

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Jonathan Morgan writes: >> You can access http://ftp.xiphos.org/sword/mods.d.tar.gz, crack it open, >> and see what's available. Just two assumptions: >> - the zip subdir is at the same level as mods.d >> - xyz.conf has a corresponding xyz.zip. > Agreed. I can and have. I don't expect my avera

Re: [sword-devel] Remote Module Repository Wiki

2010-11-05 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Jonathan Morgan writes: > 2. Offering a list of downloads at CrossWire tends to suggest that > they are the *only* books available. While I can download zip files > from Xiphos FTP directly (for example), it's not easy to find out > about ... > BPBible relies on zip installation at present. I th

Re: [sword-devel] curl bible.org

2010-10-31 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Troy A. Griffitts" writes: > Today I tried refreshing the Bible.org remote site in our list of > repositories and the refresh process just hangs using CURL-enabled SWORD > Can anyone else successfully run: > sword/utilities/installmgr -sc > sword/utilities/installmgr -ri Bible.org You meant just

Re: [sword-devel] 1.6.2 (was: imp2vs does not compile Revelation properly)

2010-10-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Troy A. Griffitts" writes: > does it happen when creating non-compressed modules (ModDrv=RawText)? I have never seen this happen, in any of the ~40 RawText Bible modules I've produced. (I've never bothered to generate compressed modules.) I've reported problems with compressed lexdict modules

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 3.1.4 source tarball is released

2010-10-19 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Matthew Talbert writes: > more timely releases would make that job much easier all around Amen, yea verily, and rah-rah-rah. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to u

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 3.1.4 source tarball is released

2010-10-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
The intent had been to release X3.1.4 when S1.6.2 came out. But we had gotten done all that was needed, with more time to spare than we could use. I'm sure that package builders will be aware of the release of S1.6.2. ___ sword-devel mailing list: swor

Re: [sword-devel] InstallSize entry in .conf file?

2010-10-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam writes: > Is this entry just FIO to advise prior to download, or does it make a real > difference to module behaviour? It is purely advisory to the user, if the application shows it to him. It lets the user know whether he will spend a long time downloading, or occupy a lot of disc,

Re: [sword-devel] Unexpected bold font display in Xiphos

2010-10-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam writes: > When I view using Xiphos 3.1.3, Song of Solomon (any chapter) and Isaiah 1, > for module NETfree, all the text appears bold. An engine error, recently fixed by Troy, a tag open/close mismatch. Not happening in current SVN Sword. ___

Re: [sword-devel] InstallSize entry in .conf file?

2010-10-18 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam writes: > For a compressed Bible module, is this just the sum total of the file-sizes > for the following files? > nt.bzs, nt.bzv, nt.bzz, ot.bzs, ot.bzv, ot.bzz > or is it something else? As done for Xiphos and all CrossWire repos, it is a blunt total of file sizes for all files in

[sword-devel] Xiphos 3.1.4 source tarball is released

2010-10-15 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
We were overdue for a release. Lots of new features, mostly display- related, some navigation-related, tooltips everywhere, sword:// handling in Linux, many other things. See the SourceForge files area. Package builders should be doing their thing soon. _

Re: [sword-devel] SVN revision 2558 ICU Error

2010-10-03 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
troypulk writes: > Is there a fix? and is anybody else getting this error? In -r2560, I do not see this error in Fedora13. I have these ICU packages: libicu-4.2.1-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm libicu-devel-4.2.1-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm ___ sword-devel mailing list: sw

[sword-devel] ACDCref, a modified ACDC module: hot-linking verse references

2010-09-20 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
In the Xiphos repo, I've just placed a new module ACDCref, which is an update to the ACDC module present in CrossWire Beta repo. This module makes just one change: It wraps all verse references in attributes, rendering them clickable. That's all. It's not perfect, but it's a good step forward.

Re: [sword-devel] Sword 1.6.2 NOW!

2010-09-14 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Jaak Ristioja writes: > Why not branch? Because branching is a whole new world of pain, for something as straightforward as a workaround patch for a curl library bug. It's a one-line patch, for pity's sake. > Since there has probably been no announcement from Sword that distros > should patch,

Re: [sword-devel] Linked in audio files

2010-08-26 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
David Haslam writes: > Well that's going to be the case anyway. Each SWORD (or JSword) > front-end application would need to implement a media player No, not at all. If the resulting HTML returned by the filters is any sort of typical "passagestudy.jsp?action=playMultiMedia" link, then Xiphos w

Re: [sword-devel] Linked in audio files

2010-08-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Karl Kleinpaste writes: > the application probably has to hack the filter output to spackle in a > standard miniature image to indicate it, to go along with the intended > pseudo-picture actually-audio reference It occurs to me as well that simply adding a standard "there'

Re: [sword-devel] Linked in audio files

2010-08-25 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Chris Little writes: > If you mean to embed the audio in-line, I would recommend using the > element. There's nothing specifically image-oriented about the > element, aside from implications made by its name. Yes, there is: The XXXhtmlhref filters wrap the resulting HTML element in for the sak

Re: [sword-devel] Linked in audio files

2010-08-24 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Matthew Talbert writes: >> I thought of that. But images have a separate tag (figure, I think) OSIS , ThML . >> a generic does not exist, does it? Only in ThML, I'm pretty sure. > I do think you would be better off splitting it into per-verse files. Ow. 31,102 verses in KJV. At the very le

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