Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-18 Thread Костя и Алёна Маслюк
Chris Little писал(а) в своём письме Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:48:38 +0400: The other type attempts to formalize a versification system representative of numerous Bibles within a tradition. Examples of this include the KJV(A), NRSV(A), Synodal, Catholic, & Catholic2. KJV(A) & NRSV(A) happen to

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-16 Thread DM Smith
The ulbufnum error/warning has appeared for years. As you pointed out, it is deep in SWORD lib. Always looked benign w/in osis2mod. Probably should be looked into and fixed. In Him, DM On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: > Yes. Using debug produces little of value but I

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-16 Thread Andrew Thule
Yes. Using debug produces little of value but I will run further test in verbose mode later today and produce output. That said, I've sen the same errors produced by working modules, that keep working, so I'm less sure now than earlier those errors are related. ~ A On Thursday, August 16, 2012,

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-16 Thread David Haslam
Andrew, Some sanity checks before further work by others on the list Are you using *osis2mod* to make a compressed module (ztext) or a raw text module? Do you get the same error message for both? Have you tried any of the debug options? David -- View this message in context: http://sw

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Thule
Chris. I threw the canon_lxxe.h file in ./src/sword/include/ Edited ./src/sword/src/mgr/versemgr.cpp Added: #include // LXXE v11n system and; systemVerseMgr->registerVersificationSystem("LXXE", otbooks_lxxe, ntbooks, vm_lxxe); recompiled and voila! -v specify a versifi

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-13 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
On 08/13/2012 07:48 AM, Chris Little wrote: > Because we don't do dynamic loading of versification systems, whenever we add > a versification system to Sword, it takes up space in memory just to hold the > versification tables. Accordingly, we try to be as conservative as possible > in adding ne

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-13 Thread Chris Little
On 08/13/2012 12:10 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: Actually this whole business raises another issue. In the collection of modules I've been building up, I've added Dead Sea Scrolls texts as OSIS (but have not yet created modules for them, pending working though versification issues). For biblical scr

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-13 Thread Chris Little
On 08/13/2012 11:43 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: Greg wrote: "If the one you need isn't supported (I don't see LXX or GNT at present) then you're welcome to create such a file and submit it along with your module." I must have mistook your earlier comments as well.. I implicitly took them to mean yo

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-13 Thread Andrew Thule
Actually this whole business raises another issue. In the collection of modules I've been building up, I've added Dead Sea Scrolls texts as OSIS (but have not yet created modules for them, pending working though versification issues). For biblical scrolls, versification isn't so much an issue, si

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-13 Thread Andrew Thule
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Chris Little wrote: > Because we don't do dynamic loading of versification systems, whenever we > add a versification system to Sword, it takes up space in memory just to > hold the versification tables. Accordingly, we try to be as conservative as > possible in ad

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-13 Thread Andrew Thule
That certainly explains the apparent disorder - thanks for that. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Chris Little wrote: > On 08/12/2012 11:23 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: >> >> I was making changes to the LXX2012 version - but then quit. I >> decided to instead work on getting out a version with origi

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-13 Thread Chris Little
Because we don't do dynamic loading of versification systems, whenever we add a versification system to Sword, it takes up space in memory just to hold the versification tables. Accordingly, we try to be as conservative as possible in adding new versification systems. And once we have released

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-13 Thread Chris Little
On 08/12/2012 11:23 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: I was making changes to the LXX2012 version - but then quit. I decided to instead work on getting out a version with original text. I've created a versification system based upon an 1857 edition of Brenton's book (and consulted 2 other versions, includ

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-12 Thread Andrew Thule
Thanks Chris. Here's an English Septuagint versification system, based upon the text I got from Michael and compared to a number of printed version. The Chapter order doesn't quite follow the KJV or NSRV convention, but it does follow the Septuagints order. I appreciate it if you could add this

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-12 Thread Andrew Thule
I was making changes to the LXX2012 version - but then quit. I decided to instead work on getting out a version with original text. I've created a versification system based upon an 1857 edition of Brenton's book (and consulted 2 other versions, including a 1900 edition). The versification doesn'

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-10 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
I just implemented a lot of spelling corrections for the LXX2012 (thanks to David Haslam), so you might want to grab a fresh copy tomorrow. On 08/10/2012 03:40 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: Hmm, 'basons' was in my text too, so perhaps it was an antiquate

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-10 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
On 08/09/2012 05:38 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: Michael, thanks very much.  I've spell corrected the following words: kindreds to kindred basons to basin dulness to dullness. I'm not sure which text you are using, the original Brenton or t

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-10 Thread David Haslam
Too few people involved in legacy scripture preservation are aware of Tesseract. They struggle on using the OCR software that came bundled with their scanner. The results are far more error laden than they might be had they known otherwise. An army of touch typists would do better. One of my TextP

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-10 Thread David Haslam
It's a word, Andrew, as you can readily learn from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Alternate-Versification-question-tp4650784p4650803.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-10 Thread Andrew Thule
Indeed, and I thought Eton was exclusive! Does the next verse contain one too "and the lictors told..." or was lictors a word? ~A On Friday, August 10, 2012, David Haslam wrote: > For the most amusing howler caused by an OCR error, install the Anderson > (NT) > module and read Acts 16:37 > > btw

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-10 Thread Andrew Thule
Hmm, 'basons' was in my text too, so perhaps it was an antiquated word chosen by Brenton. Regardless, I'm working with your LXX2012 text, which has already had some of the more archaic language improved, so will stick with the change. ~A On Thursday, August 9, 2012, Andrew Thule wrote: > Michae

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-10 Thread Andrew Thule
Yes from the CLI (initial training is painful - though skillful Internet searches can often get you training files for particular fonts that are close). I tried using Qtesseract, but the compilation was somewhat problematic, and felt the time investment (to get the thing to work) was little worth

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-10 Thread David Haslam
Andrew, Are you using Tesseract from the command line, or did you also install a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract_%28software%29#User_interfaces GUI for Tesseract ? If so, which? and any comments worth sharing? David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.co

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread David Haslam
For the most amusing howler caused by an OCR error, install the Anderson (NT) module and read Acts 16:37 btw. If you're British, you'll find this even more amusing than the rest of you. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Alternate-Versification-quest

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread Andrew Thule
Michael, thanks very much. I've spell corrected the following words: kindreds to kindred basons to basin dulness to dullness. Otherwise the text looks very good. I've turned it into a sword module, and will keep working on improvements, including comparing it to the text I had. Let me know and I

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Yes, please do feel free to use the text I have posted on eBible.org, if you like. If you find errors in it, please let me know so that I can correct them. I have found some by comparing a couple of different sources, but there may still be a few typos/OCR errors.

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread Andrew Thule
Now that I've seen Michael has place his text in the public domain, really appreciate you pointing out these links. This is going to make things go much quicker. Though I have already spent some effort building source text, haven't pride enough to stop me from using Michaels text instead, which

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread Andrew Thule
Thanks for the links. Yes LXXE is Brenton which I'm in the process of throwing at Tesseract, albeit with some effort. No I wasn't aware of Michael Johnson's efforts so should make some effort to contact him. I appreciate your comments. ~A On Thursday, August 9, 2012, David Haslam wrote: > I

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread Andrew Thule
Yes I found that to be true (CCELs versification was, by the authors own admission, error ridden). Regardless, with a bit of work was able to create one that wasn't, which the CCEL one helped validate. ~A On Thursday, August 9, 2012, Chris Little wrote: > On 08/08/2012 07:05 PM, Andrew Thule wr

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread DM Smith
In addition to what others have said: The list that osis2mod -h produces is not hard copy, but rather it asks the SWORD library for the list. If osis2mod is statically compiled then the list is fixed at compile time. Otherwise it is fixed with the build of the SWORD library. Either way, when y

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-09 Thread David Haslam
I expect that LXXE does indeed mean the English Brenton. If so, then Andrew should be made aware that Michael Johnson is working on a modernized English LXX. See these two links: http://ebible.org/eng-Brenton/ http://ebible.org/eng-lxx2012/ David -- View this message in context: http://sw

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-08 Thread Chris Little
On 08/08/2012 06:25 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: However, this following page list others (such as LXX and GNT): http://svn.crosswire.org/wiki/Alternate_Versification/System_Identification Observe that this page is intended as an aid for figuring out which versification is employed in a particular

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-08 Thread Chris Little
On 08/08/2012 07:05 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: Thanks Greg .. I've done that, and compared what comes with Sword to what's listed here: https://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/basicv11ns/ The only difference, as far as I was able to tell was canon_gnt.h does not appear to ship wit

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-08 Thread Andrew Thule
I guess you're saying that's what essentially defines a versification .. (I wasn't sure if there was more to it ..). Thanks. ~A On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: >> Thanks Greg .. I've done that, and compared what comes w

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-08 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: > Thanks Greg .. I've done that, and compared what comes with Sword to > what's listed here: > https://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/basicv11ns/ > > The only difference, as far as I was able to tell was canon_gnt.h does > not

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-08 Thread Andrew Thule
Thanks Greg .. I've done that, and compared what comes with Sword to what's listed here: https://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/versification/basicv11ns/ The only difference, as far as I was able to tell was canon_gnt.h does not appear to ship with sword. I assume it was pruned or included w

Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-08 Thread Greg Hellings
Some have been pruned in the past because they were either duplicates or similar. It is also possible that some of the documentation is out of date. The best way to know for sure is to look at the installed header files, if you're on Linux, to see which ones are included. Each versification is list

[sword-devel] Alternate Versification question

2012-08-08 Thread Andrew Thule
osis2mod -h lists the following versifications supported: -v specify a versification scheme to use (default is KJV) Note: The following are valid values for v11n: Catholic