[symfony-users] OT: RAD contract issues

2007-03-25 Thread Georg Gell
Hi everyone, this is a little off topic, but I am reading the symfony book atm, it was mentioned in the book that symfony is very useful for RAD and code refactoring, as the newer customers often change the requirements. Technically I am quite used to RAD and I see it's advantages, but I am worki

[symfony-users] Re: OT: RAD contract issues

2007-03-25 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Georg Gell wrote: > Hi everyone, > > this is a little off topic, but I am reading the symfony book atm, it > was mentioned in the book that symfony is very useful for RAD and code > refactoring, as the newer customers often change the requirements. > Technically I am quite used to RAD and I see i

[symfony-users] Re: OT: RAD contract issues

2007-03-25 Thread Georg Gell
Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: > Georg Gell wrote: > > Well in order to really leverage the benefits from agile development, > one must really build a trust relationship with the client. Otherwise > you do not benefit from throwing out things not deemed useful during > prototyping etc. All in all

[symfony-users] Re: OT: RAD contract issues

2007-03-25 Thread Nicolas Perriault
Georg Gell a écrit : > I am > working as a project manager in a large company, and I have problems > using RAD there. A nice reading that helped me to understand some of the benefits and limitations of agile project development and management, Getting Real : http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ (

[symfony-users] Re: OT: RAD contract issues

2007-03-25 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Georg Gell wrote: > Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: >> Georg Gell wrote: >> >> Well in order to really leverage the benefits from agile development, >> one must really build a trust relationship with the client. Otherwise >> you do not benefit from throwing out things not deemed useful during >> pro

[symfony-users] Re: OT: RAD contract issues

2007-03-25 Thread Georg Gell
Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: > Georg Gell wrote: >> Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: >>> Georg Gell wrote: >>> >>> Well in order to really leverage the benefits from agile development, >>> one must really build a trust relationship with the client. Otherwise >>> you do not benefit from throwing out thin

[symfony-users] Re: OT: RAD contract issues

2007-03-25 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Georg Gell wrote: > Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: >> Georg Gell wrote: >>> Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: Georg Gell wrote: Well in order to really leverage the benefits from agile development, one must really build a trust relationship with the client. Otherwise you do not ben

[symfony-users] Re: OT: RAD contract issues

2007-03-25 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Georg Gell wrote: >> Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: >>> Georg Gell wrote: Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: > Georg Gell wrote: > > Well in order to really leverage the benefits from agile development, > one must really build a trust relationship with the clie