[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-24 Thread bghost
24, 11:32 am, Matt Robinson m...@lazycat.org wrote: On Sep 23, 12:29 pm, bghost bggho...@gmail.com wrote: First: [..] So you complicate some tasks in the Symfony framework that already was simple and good. Well, that's certainly an opinion. Second: Almost 90% of the code that generates

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-24 Thread bghost
('modulename', 'componentname') ? or what? 2009/9/24 bghost bggho...@gmail.com This is generated HTML code that I got after inserting the language component within a table cell: td?php include_component('language', 'language') ?/td where component 'language' is a component

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-24 Thread bghost
mouth and remove all doubt On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:04 AM, bghost bggho...@gmail.com wrote: This is generated HTML code that I got after inserting the language component within a table cell: td?php include_component('language', 'language') ?/td where component 'language

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-24 Thread bghost
of you loves the Symfony Form framework - most obviously does not even basic knowledge of the HTML. WBR, Ghost3D On Sep 25, 12:11 am, Eno symb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, bghost wrote: This is bad formatted HTML - where is table tag? Using tr, th and td without table - terrible

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-24 Thread bghost
.  If you don't know who the W3C is, please try to do a little research. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html#h-11.1 Jeremy On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:27 PM, bghost bggho...@gmail.com wrote: Ok Eno, I visited that link and I did not thrilled because I found something wrong again

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-23 Thread bghost
for the users forum. On Sep 18, 6:09 pm, bghost bggho...@gmail.com wrote: No, the crux of what I wanted to say is: Users should not spend more time to learn how some Web Framework works but they need to learn a programming language. Any framework should be only an auxiliary tool

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-23 Thread bghost
for the users forum. On Sep 18, 6:09 pm, bghost bggho...@gmail.com wrote: No, the crux of what I wanted to say is: Users should not spend more time to learn how some Web Framework works but they need to learn a programming language. Any framework should be only an auxiliary tool

[symfony-users] Is censorship necessary?

2009-09-23 Thread bghost
It seems that I disabled to write on the topic, which I opened. Fabien, why fear? Is censorship necessary? WBR, Ghost3D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups symfony users group. To post to this group,

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-23 Thread bghost
| fabien.potencier.org Tél: +33 1 40 99 80 80 bghost wrote: As I said at the beginning: Symfony has become too complicated. Also, Symfony folder structure has become too complicated. Definitely, the learning of principles on which Symfony working is painful and unprofitable. If you really want

[symfony-users] Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-18 Thread bghost
It is necessary to invest so much effort to do a relatively simple application. Productivity and profitability of such work is very questionable. So, Symfony - Goodbye --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-18 Thread bghost
what is the relatively simple application you're trying to build? On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:58 AM, bghost bggho...@gmail.com wrote: It is necessary to invest so much effort to do a relatively simple application. Productivity and profitability of such work is very questionable. So

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-18 Thread bghost
I thought on all parameters: in the command line, and various configuration parameters in various configuration files. On Sep 18, 4:38 pm, Sid Ferreira sid@gmail.com wrote: You mean parameters to the command line? On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:29, bghost bggho...@gmail.com wrote: First

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-18 Thread bghost
CEO - symfony lead developer sensiolabs.com | symfony-project.org | fabien.potencier.org Tél: +33 1 40 99 80 80 bghost wrote: First, I would like to say that Symfony framework is not too bad, because I follow its development from the first version. But I think it became too complicated

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-18 Thread bghost
you share what you tried to do? On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:58, bghost bggho...@gmail.com mailto:bggho...@gmail.com wrote:     It is necessary to invest so much effort to do a relatively simple     application.     Productivity and profitability of such work is very questionable

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-18 Thread bghost
| fabien.potencier.org Tél: +33 1 40 99 80 80 bghost wrote: First, I would like to say that Symfony framework is not too bad, because I follow its development from the first version. But I think it became too complicated because it is evident exaggeration with the introduction

[symfony-users] Re: Symfony has definitely become too complicated framework

2009-09-18 Thread bghost
On Sep 18, 5:30 pm, Sid Ferreira sid@gmail.com wrote: The most easy thing to understand is something that doesn't need documentation and I believe that THIS is the point that BGhost is  talking about.I don't want launch a rocket in 30 days, I want my gallery ready in 12 minutes... On Fri