Re: Issue 2559 in sympy: lack definite integral of |x^2-1|

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #2 on issue 2559 by pedrocru...@gmail.com: lack definite integral of |x^2-1| http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=2559 I'm also a Sagemath user and that's why I wrote ^ instead of the Python/SymPy correct form **. The assertion integrate(abs(expr)) ==

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #24 on issue 1816 by ronan.l...@gmail.com: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 If we're talking about elementary calculus, then deriving wrt a function doesn't make sense. We already have

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #25 on issue 1816 by elliso...@gmail.com: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 I don't have any further time to put into arguing about the deep mathematics of these derivatives. I feel like

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #26 on issue 1816 by asmeurer: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 OK, I think I get it now (after comment 23 it clicked for me). So I think I am +1 to this now, even with the strange

Issue 2560 in sympy: Id should be a Singleton

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Status: Accepted Owner: asmeurer Labels: Type-Defect Priority-Medium New issue 2560 by asmeurer: Id should be a Singleton http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=2560 In [35]: a = Lambda(x, x) In [36]: b = Lambda(y, y) In [37]: a Out[37]: Lambda(_x, _x) In [38]: b Out[38]: Lambda(_x,

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #27 on issue 1816 by Vinzent.Steinberg: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 Can you cite an example of somewhere where this is computed as so with the Lagrangian? The simplest possible

Issue 2561 in sympy: Add a link to the source next to function definitions in the docs

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Status: Accepted Owner: asmeurer CC: matt...@gmail.com Labels: Type-Enhancement Priority-Medium Documentation New issue 2561 by asmeurer: Add a link to the source next to function definitions in the docs http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=2561 It was just suggested to me on IRC

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #28 on issue 1816 by elliso...@gmail.com: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 The Falling Mass example here shows this, in that diff(L, x(t)) == mg, which assumes that the derivative you

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #29 on issue 1816 by asmeurer: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 OK, that is evidence enough for me. And this would assumedly extend to diff(f(x), x, n).diff(diff(f(x), x, m)) ==

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #30 on issue 1816 by ronan.l...@gmail.com: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 There's absolutely no need here to compute diff(x', x) (whatever that means). x and x' are separate,

Re: Issue 2560 in sympy: Id should be a Singleton

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #1 on issue 2560 by ronan.l...@gmail.com: Id should be a Singleton http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=2560 It's called S.IdentityFunction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sympy-issues group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Issue 2560 in sympy: Id should be a Singleton

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Updates: Status: Invalid Comment #2 on issue 2560 by asmeurer: Id should be a Singleton http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=2560 Oh OK. And we do not have for example S.oo. By the way, the printing of this object should be improved. -- You received this message because you

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #31 on issue 1816 by Vinzent.Steinberg: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 Sorry, I don't get your point. Why can't we consider diff(x'(t), x(t)) as diff(x', x)? Let's say they are just

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #32 on issue 1816 by ronan.l...@gmail.com: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 The problem is that in the conventional presentation of Lagrangian mechanics, we use the same name for

Re: Issue 1026 in sympy: pypy doesn't run sympy

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #24 on issue 1026 by renato.c...@gmail.com: pypy doesn't run sympy http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1026 The piecewise failure is due to the ordering of the expression args. The two sides of the assert equality are equivalent. We can test for both cases, or we can

Re: Issue 1026 in sympy: pypy doesn't run sympy

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #25 on issue 1026 by asmeurer: pypy doesn't run sympy http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1026 How would solving the issue of recognizing that the inner Piecewise is never reached solve the issue of arg order? Are you sure it wouldn't just solve it for this one specific

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #34 on issue 1816 by ronan.l...@gmail.com: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 In formal mathematics, Lagrangian mechanics is presented in terms of stuff like differential manifolds and

Re: Issue 1816 in sympy: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions

2011-07-13 Thread sympy
Comment #35 on issue 1816 by asmeurer: Adding partial derivatives and taking derivatives with respect to functions http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1816 From that Wikipedia page you reference: However, all that is meant by this notation is the derivative of the function