Re: t-and-f: Favorite Article

2000-10-22 Thread MandSFitz
If I remember correctly,the "ugly" runner referred to in the Bayi/Walker article in SI was Nyambui. Mike Fitzpatrick

t-and-f: Facts on Medhi Baala

2000-10-22 Thread ECatino
Where is this feller originally from? maybe Turkey?. any background on him out there? clear 4th in the Oly games. and also, did James Carter, he of the taunt, get any reprimands from the authorities?...it seems to me that althought the medal stand business was kind of bordering in wwf idi

t-and-f: Name's the same

2000-10-22 Thread Ed Grant
Netters:     Re the James Carter incident in Sydney, I caught up yesterday with his namesake, who was quite a 400M runner at manhattan 25 years ago and has been coaching at Newark's Weequahic HS for some years now.       When I asked him about the present James Carter's actions at S

t-and-f: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread FMBYRNES
If you think the Olympics were bad, check out the performance of the US team at the World Jrs in Santiago, www.nationalscholastic.org - thus far, 10/21, the BEST US effort has been a couple 4th place finishes. NO medals!! What's going on In the last two World Jrs, the USA won the unoffic

t-and-f: Chicago Marathon top 10

2000-10-22 Thread Paul Merca
Title: Chicago Marathon top 10 Courtesy Runnersworld.com Official results Men: 1.  Khalid Khannouchi, 2:07:01 (AR) 2.   Josephat Kiprono, 2:07:29 3. Moses Tanui, 2:07:47 4.  Peter Githuka, 2:08:02 5.    Fred Kiprop, 2:08:23 6.  William Kiplagat, 2:11:57 7. David Morris, 2:12:00

t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread Aferr48
Sorry, but I don't think this was an embarrassment. We can't revamp our whole scholastic/collegiate seasons just because the IAAF chose to "make points " globally. If anyone was surprised by the USA showing they weren't paying attention. HS/college freshman going to a World Championships in Oct

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread Kristopher Rolin
One problem could be that most of the top american juniors are in college. I know that any distance runner is running cross right now and not thinking of track. If the World Jrs were ran during an american track season we would see far better results. Later, Rolin Go PILOTS On Sun, 22 Oct 20

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread Elliott Oti
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sorry, but I don't think this was an embarrassment. We can't revamp our whole > scholastic/collegiate seasons just because the IAAF chose to "make points " > globally. If anyone was surprised by the USA showing they weren't paying > attent

t-and-f: HI

2000-10-22 Thread Doug Lynch
I'm back, missed me didn't you.. on to business... Results of the 5th annual City to the Seam 1/2 marathon are at http://www.citytothesea.com also, please check out http://www.resultzone.com it is a links page of results managed by YOU. I will scour the web weekly to fill it up. Feel free to add

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
> This may come as a big surprise, but schools and colleges outside the US are > also well into their academic season. It's October over here too, you know, > and the new semester is almost two months old. This has not prevented our > boys and girls (*proud grin*) from pulling in the medals. And y

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread Mats Åkerlind
Suddenly responses start to come. A question to especially Andy Ferrara and also to some others. The opinion here in Europe is that the US would have scored the weakest performance ever, even if the Champs had been held, say, in late June (when the Europeans haven't peaked yet and it's really out

Re: t-and-f: Embarrassment no longer?

2000-10-22 Thread Roger Ruth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ("Embarassment"), >If you think the Olympics were bad, check out the performance of the US team >at the World Jrs in Santiago, www.nationalscholastic.org - thus far, 10/21, >the BEST US effort has been a couple 4th place finishes. NO medals!! The U.S.(Rocky Danners) meda

t-and-f: US medal in Santiago

2000-10-22 Thread Mats Åkerlind
Actually the US got one medal in Santiago. Rocky Danners took the bronze in the PV. Mats Åkerlind

RE: t-and-f: ALL TIME FAVOTITE ARTICLES??

2000-10-22 Thread THOMAS,Graham
I'm not sure I could call it a favourite but the article I will never forget was published (circa 1990?) in Randall Northam's much-missed "Athletics Today". Entitled Death of An Athlete, it was the story of Birgit Dressler, a talented German heptathlete, who died in shocking pain while taking a c

t-and-f: Chicago Top 50

2000-10-22 Thread Flowman21
The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon: Top 50 Runners overall first_names last_name city state country age sex clockfinal chipfinal overdiv oversex split_15k half split_30k 1 Khalid Khannouchi Usa 28 M 02:07:01 02:07:01 1 1 0:44:49 1:03:05 1:30:42 2 Josephat Kiprono Kenya 26 M 02:07:29 02:07:29

t-and-f: Santiago results

2000-10-22 Thread R.T.
Open letter to all athletics federations outside the United States: Yes, the performance by the so-called "team" allegedly representing the U.S. Juniors at Santiago is indeed indicative of the level of performance to be expected by the "senior" team at Edmonton next year. You may prepare your own

t-and-f: Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:44:30 -0400

2000-10-22 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Sorry Jim. "Flounder" is both an intransitive verb and a noun. Linguists suspect that it came from "founder" but they aren't certain. It means to struggle awkwardly or to speak or act in an awkward or confused manner. It is slightly more appropriate in the context used below than "founder". I

t-and-f: Boston Mayor's Cup XC 10/22

2000-10-22 Thread usatfne
Boston Mayor's Cup Cross Country October 22, 2000 Franklin Park Boston MA 50 degrees, sunny, breezy Presented by the Boston Athletic Association and adidas America, Supported by the Boston Parks & Recreation Dept and USATF New England A strong regional field took to the starting line for the el

t-and-f: Re: Fwd: Who wants to be a millionaire?

2000-10-22 Thread ppalmer
On October 21, Jim Gerweck wrote: >In a message dated 10/21/00 12:18:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>Plus, I know the majority of us all in here would flounder on "Millionaire", >>so can it! >> >Just in case anyone is on "Millionaire" and is asked, the correct word is >"founder", like a ship

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
> To be nasty - if the spoiled child doesn't want to come to the party, let the > spoiled child stay home. To call the people who have posted defensive posts on the list spoiled makes sense. As I said, the U.S. had a terrible showing at what is unquestionably the premier junior meet in the world

t-and-f: My favorite Article

2000-10-22 Thread Yunker, Jerry
My favorite was an article that appeared in the June, ?, 1970 issue of Sports Illustrated written by Kenny Moore (?) entitled, "The Freshman and the Great Guru". This was an article about Steve Prefontaine, Bill Bowerman, and the Oregon Twilight Mile. I kept the cover of that issue of SI on my b

t-and-f: chicago marathon

2000-10-22 Thread Michael J. Roth
A statistical note(s): 12 of the top 25 men & 14 of the top 25 women are listed as US athletes, whether they are all citizens I do not know. Not a bad performance from a nation w/o good marathoners in a race touted as having one of the deepest fields ever. MJR

Re: t-and-f: chicago marathon

2000-10-22 Thread Michael J. Roth
Impressive nonetheless. I thought those names sounded too "African" to me, they must have been listed by residence and not by nationality. MJR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 9 of the top 25 men are Americans. Otieno, Labankette and Kariuki are not > from the US as reported. > > Bruce Meyer > KUKI

Re: t-and-f: chicago marathon

2000-10-22 Thread KUKIMBIA
9 of the top 25 men are Americans. Otieno, Labankette and Kariuki are not from the US as reported. Bruce Meyer KUKIMBIA Chicago

Re: t-and-f: chicago marathon

2000-10-22 Thread KUKIMBIA
Yes, it was a good day in general for the Americans, and there were some notable crash-and-burns among the foreigners. Americans ran more conservatively, e.g., only Morris was with two minutes of the leaders as early as 15k, and was a full minute back himself. Mack ran a very nice race also.

Re: t-and-f: chicago marathon

2000-10-22 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
> 12 of the top 25 men & 14 of the top 25 women are listed as US athletes, > whether they are all citizens I do not know. The vast majority are U.S. citizens. I've got to put in a plug for my friend Chris Junkermann (2:32, 7th woman in her marathon debut). 18 months ago she was running 20 miles

t-and-f: Chicago Marathon

2000-10-22 Thread Runtenkm
Two women in the top 25. Not bad. Or just an indication that the field wasn't quite that deep. Steve S.

t-and-f: drugs

2000-10-22 Thread Michael J. Roth
After the little bat tossing incident (the jacka** should have been ejected), and assorted historical events that have checkered his past, any one care to guess which rage-causing substance Mr Clemens might be using? MJR

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread David Lesley
Netters: As a university teacher I'd like to point out that the worst thing that an American freshman can do is take off a week or 2 in their first semester. Track and field ahletes in general are pretty serious students, so I expect that they realize this. The European academic system is very

Re: t-and-f: chicago marathon

2000-10-22 Thread Tony Banovich
Ed Parrot wrote: >"Nevertheless, the race resulted in 3 of the four fastest American women's >times of the year..." Who has the fastest American women's time of the year. None other than Chris Clark. So, how many still think she should not have been on the Oly team. As for the men, it's gre

t-and-f: Montana State Highs Scool XC

2000-10-22 Thread Tony Banovich
Kalispell's boys won the team title as expected. 28 points to the 93 of Helena Capital. Watkins (14:43), Vidal (15:07) and Michels (15:08) went 1,2, 3. They rounded out the scoring with a 9th, and a 13th. 6th and 7th men were 17th and 27th. Not a bad day for the braves. Any one wanting mo

t-and-f: Similarities

2000-10-22 Thread MStaple100
Hicham El Guerrouj and Jim Ryun. Both men tripped and fell in an Olympics they might have won. Both men defeated by a Kenyan (and possibly poor tactics on their own part) in an Olympic final. Both men had similar physiques and appearances. Both religious. Both men breakers of multiple world reco

t-and-f: Siraki's 16:38 takes CR down 17 seconds from J Stamps' 16:55

2000-10-22 Thread DougSpeck
Anita Siraki of Glendale Hoover raced to one of prep history's great performances ever with a destruction of the Mt. SAC CR of 16:55 with a 16:38 run on a cool morning at Mt. SAC this past Saturday 10/21). Julia Stamps had the old record, with it gradually chiseled down to 16:55 before Siraki

t-and-f: USA at the World Junior Champs

2000-10-22 Thread Roger Ruth
Mats Åkerlind has led a mini thread that began with his comment, >Well into the World Juniors in Santiago, the US showing is so far not >very impressive. It's not a normal US showing and even here in Sweden, >we can to some part understand the reasons - time of year, location, >obligations to col

Re: t-and-f: Chicago Marathon

2000-10-22 Thread Nathan Adams
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