t-and-f: close finishes

2001-01-07 Thread Phil Weishaar
2 events that come to mind was the 1983 WC 10,000 won by Cova. Big field sprinting down the final straightaway and the IH final with Moses, Harris and Schmidt at the wire.

Re: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event?

2001-01-07 Thread DHSTFCOACH
I remember seeing in a picture of the 1976 Olympic 1500 final where 5 or 6 women finished within a couple tenths a second of each other. The pictute I saw showed a very tight race. Marty Ogden

Re: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event?

2001-01-07 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
> So what was the most closely contested high-level track or field event ever? This should be an interesting thread. Looking from top to bottom (as opposed to say the gap just between 1st and 2nd) I imagine that it will be an 800 meter race or maybe a vertical jump. In this year's U.S. trials al

Re: t-and-f: Re: Clubs

2001-01-07 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
Conway hits on an important point that was already touched on by a number of others. What happens to the 4:06 milers, the 21.2 200 guys, etc? Of course, there are clubs like the ones mentioned by Mike Platt, but the majority of these guys end up stopping competition after college. These are the

Re: Re: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event?

2001-01-07 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 1/7/1 8:28:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <> How about the 100-meter hurdles at the 1984 U.S. Olympic Trials?: 1.Kim Turner 13.12 2.Benita Fitzgerald 13.13 3.Pam Page 13.13 4.Stephanie Hightower 13.13 Walt Murphy

t-and-f: Chariots of Fire

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Nisius
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t-and-f: Syndey Olympic Tapes?

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Nisius
Just curious if anyone has a copy of the mens 800,1500,steeple chase, and 10k runs from the 2000 Olympics? I taped every segment possible, except the late night ones. Thus I missed the 10k and my vcr didn't record day 7 which included the women's long jump, mens steeple, and mens 1500. I have m

Re: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event?

2001-01-07 Thread Conway
Garry wrote: > > Anyone who restricts the measure of "progress" in terms of World Records (or > close thereto) is doomed to lose his interest in the sport. As a pure numbers > honk, I've certainly had to recast my attachment to the absolute as WRs > become harder and harder to find. > > Throw out

Re: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event?

2001-01-07 Thread SMLurie
One of the closest, deepest, and fastest races I can remember is the men's 1996 Olympic 800 final. Steve

t-and-f: Sydney Olympic Tapes?

2001-01-07 Thread Paul Nisius
Just curious if anyone has a copy of the mens 800,1500,steeple chase, and 10k runs from the 2000 Olympics? I taped every segment possible, except the late night ones. Thus I missed the 10k and my vcr didn't record day 7 which included the women's long jump, mens steeple, and mens 1500. I have m

Re: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event?

2001-01-07 Thread Tom Derderian
Our longtime reliance on records as the sport's sole selling point is > about to jump up and give us a serious bite on the ass. > > gh Perhaps we can celebrate close group finishes such as the fastest top five in history or the number close to the record to show how tight the competition is and

RE: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event?

2001-01-07 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 5 Jan 2001 7:47:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, Justin Clouder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: << Fascinating, thanks Phil, that explains a lot. Does that mean the event should be changed? Lower hurdles? Fewer hurdles? Or should I stop obsessing about progress and just enjoy

t-and-f: Millrose Games

2001-01-07 Thread Michael J. Roth
It appears that once again TV will take a dump on T&F again. The Millrose Games, which runs during primetime on the east coast on a Friday night, will be broadcast in edited tape delay on Saturday afternoon. Surely this meet, of any, can be done live. It runs with an exacting schedule, and ther

t-and-f: Junior lists

2001-01-07 Thread Conway
Does anyone know where to find all time lists for high school and/or juniors ??? Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: USATF snub of Marion Jones detailed

2001-01-07 Thread Dgs1170
I did not give this reason much thought before, but now I have. What crap!!! If I can watch the Emmy's. the AMA's and watch satellite feeds of acceptance, or hear, "On behalf of..." I can bear an absent athlete.  That is not a reason to not give the award to the person who earned it.  Personal bias

Re: t-and-f: NCAA ALL AMERICAN.....

2001-01-07 Thread Conway
Bomba wrote: > Thanks for the replies. Dare i ask the > creation/history/rationale behind this practice of > '"american" all americans' in D 1 only?? > I would take a guess and say somewhere around the late 70's early 80's when schools like Washington State and UTEP (among others) began to recr

Re: t-and-f: USATF snub of Marion Jones detailed

2001-01-07 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sun, 7 Jan 2001 2:53:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Mark Zeigler of The San Diego Union-Tribune describes the process by which Marion Jones lost the Jesse Owens Award vote to Stacy Dragila. Mark also quotes Olympic coach Karen Dennis as being "sh

Re: t-and-f: Owens' OSU LJ record revisited

2001-01-07 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sun, 7 Jan 2001 1:01:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: <> My knowledge on the subject is woefully lacking, other than being able to contribute that the IAAF adopted the 2.0 max at the '36 Olympic Congress in Berlin (right before the Games) and that th

Re: t-and-f: Re: Clubs

2001-01-07 Thread Conway
Mike Trujillo wrote: > The Mikes (Roth and Rohl) and Ed all bring up some interesting > points about the club system, or lack thereof, in this country. Another > Mike (Platt) maintains that there IS a club system in place; I disagree > with him. > The club system, as it now exists, serves one

Re: t-and-f: NCAA ALL AMERICAN.....

2001-01-07 Thread Mark Bomba
Thanks for the replies. Dare i ask the creation/history/rationale behind this practice of '"american" all americans' in D 1 only?? Bomba --- Jack Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In DIII it's the top 35 finishers, regardless of > nationality. > -- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EM

Re: t-and-f: NCAA ALL AMERICAN.....

2001-01-07 Thread Jack Moran
In DIII it's the top 35 finishers, regardless of nationality. -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA ALL AMERICAN. >Date: Sun, Jan 7, 2001, 6:38 AM > > >In a message dated 1/7/1 1:00:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED

t-and-f: Elite Development Clubs

2001-01-07 Thread Michael Scott
I'm enjoying the excellent discussion going on right now about the US's club system -- or lack thereof. I coached and managed the elite team for Seattle's Club Northwest from Spring '91 to Spring'97 -- all volunteer, of course (CNW didn't get around to starting to _pay_ a coach/manager until 2

t-and-f: 2000 Penn Relays

2001-01-07 Thread Bruce Emery
Does anybody know anyone who would have a video of the 3000m highschool boys run at Penn Relays April 2000.  I would like to purchase if available.

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-07 Thread Jack Moran
Title: Re: t-and-f: Clubs In Minnesota (of all places) we have a series of five track & field meets restricted to members of clubs (which has helped create some), but even those meets end early in July.  It's hard to find a facility that doesn't want to put away its equipment ASAP.  We call the

Re: t-and-f: NCAA ALL AMERICAN.....

2001-01-07 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 1/7/1 1:00:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <> In DIvision One, the top 30 finishers, plus however many it takes to fill out the top 30 "Americans", receive All-American status. At December's race in Ames, Iowa, the men went down to 46th place and the women to 34th. Walt Mu

t-and-f: college athletics

2001-01-07 Thread RDore
WHY WE PLAY It's not about getting a scholarship, getting drafted, or making Sportscenter. It's a deep need in us that comes from the heart. We need to practice, to play, to lift, to hustle, to sweat. We do it all for our teammates and for the guy in our calculus class we don't even know. W

t-and-f: USATF snub of Marion Jones detailed

2001-01-07 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: Mark Zeigler of The San Diego Union-Tribune describes the process by which Marion Jones lost the Jesse Owens Award vote to Stacy Dragila. Mark also quotes Olympic coach Karen Dennis as being "shocked" by what she calls a "tainted election." Check out http://www.signonsandiego.com/sp