t-and-f: Kerbless tracks

2001-04-06 Thread P. N. Heidenstrom
Sorry, but this discussion is getting off the "rails". Cones are NOT legal, except to replace part of a kerb which has been temporarily removed for a field event (such as a javelin runway), or where there is a diversion for the steeplechase. Tracks without kerbs are ILLEGAL unless they are gras

t-and-f: re: DGS sig

2001-04-06 Thread The Barretts
>I can't believe anyone's giving him a hard time Actually I can't believe long time members of this or any other internet list/bulletin board/chat room/etc can't believe that when it comes to the internet, you can always find someone who will take issue with something. In fact it is the slew of b

Re: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
"Mcewen, Brian T" wrote: > Question: Since all races in lanes (relays, 200m, 400m, races with > staggered starts in lanes) are essentially a race on a track without a curb, > when a track has a curb in the innermost lane the width of Lane 1 would have > to be different from the other outer lan

t-and-f: Rios

2001-04-06 Thread Flowman21
I was told by a friend that Rios has a pictorial at Playboy.com http://cyber.playboy.com Schiefer TNFmedia in now way endorses nudity.  It's bad.

t-and-f: Boulder 800m runner commits to Arkansas

2001-04-06 Thread drew/armiger
Arkansas lands FHS' Hatch By Michael Sandrock Camera Sports Writer Fairview track star James Hatch has given a verbal commitment to attend the University of Arkansas. Hatch selected the Razorbacks over Georgetow

t-and-f: Re: 'Harrier'

2001-04-06 Thread Kurt Bray
Buck says: >'Course, I might be biased by the more militaristic, testosterone-soaked >image of harrying soldiers, as opposed to the rabbit like, timid image of >hares running away :-) The "harrier" is the intrepid (and possibly testosterone-soaked) hunter chasing the rabbit, not the rabbit run

t-and-f: Sprint Training

2001-04-06 Thread Steve Bennett
I have just updated a page on Sprint Training at http://www.oztrack.com/sprint.htm It includes a few of the very latest ideas. Feedback is welcome Steve Bennett

t-and-f: Texas Relays Multis

2001-04-06 Thread John Rhodes
Finals EVENT 1 INVITATIONAL MEN'S DECATHLON1. Santiago Lorenzo, OREGON 7726; 2. Trafton Rodgers, Unattached 7703; 3. Curtis Pugsley, BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY 7519; 4. Lyndon McDowell, MINNESOTA 7473; 5. Daniel Hunter, MISSISSIPPI STATE 7060; 6. Ryan Harlan, RICE 6936; 7. Barrett Havran, TEXA

Re: t-and-f: DGs and his scriptures

2001-04-06 Thread GHTFNedit
I have no trouble with Darrell (or anyone) quoting whatever the heck they want at the end of their posts. I do, however, think that Darrell's presentation is skirting the bounds of acceptability. When you use colored type, boldface it, underline it and run it with a font that's a couple of poin

RE: t-and-f: Records

2001-04-06 Thread Edward Koch
Arguments can certainly be made to support many other contributing factors (e.g. culture, end of the cold war, crowding out by pro sports) but one clear factor is pure demographics. The baby boom generation is usually defined as births during the years 1946-1963. in other words, the largest sch

t-and-f: Fwd: t-and-f-digest V1 #3529

2001-04-06 Thread Richard McCann
While I respect the effort that Mr. Speck has put into organizing one of the finest high school invitationals in the nation, and that the community uses the facility and backs the invitational strongly, I find his attitude about Keith's observation objectionable. Just because Mr. Speck spent

RE: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread Highfill, Floyd
Brian wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Mcewen, Brian T [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks > > <<< Occasionally some HS meets were run there and due to time contraints > the > curb wasn'

RE: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
<<< Occasionally some HS meets were run there and due to time contraints the curb wasn't put in place. I can't recall if the times seemed unreasonably fast on those occasions. >>> The difference in circumference between the track with the curb "removed" and a track constructed WITH NO CURB EVER,

t-and-f: Women's National Vault Records

2001-04-06 Thread Roger Ruth
I had hoped to update the national outdoor list before the assault on records could resume in the current season. Too late; there already have been nearly a dozen new marks set. Many thanks to Brett Addison, Heinrich Hubbeling, Mirko Jalava, Doug Lang, and Graham Thomas for their help in updating

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

2001-04-06 Thread Conway Hill
Ed wrote: > > > It is roughly equivalent to 27:45 10k running. > >I'm not sure I agree that 2:09 is equal to 27:45, but let's say it is for a >second. 27:45 was 26th on the 2000 annual list, while 2:09 was 27th. Maybe >the marathon is MORE competitive than the 10K. If you believe that a 27:4

Re: t-and-f: Fullerton humor

2001-04-06 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 4/6/01 11:20:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << That's what I said: chases hares (rabbits). And according to my dictionary it can refer to both dogs and humans >> Which means it should include most of the track distance racers on the Euro GP circuit, no? Jim Gerweck Run

t-and-f: stanford invite

2001-04-06 Thread Gary Liguori
Not much discussion here on the Stanford distance races. I would say that Bryan Berryhill is really out to prove something, after what must have been a dissappointing year last year. Also note that Wyoming runner Joe hall took 15th in 29:10, this from a kid who wasn't even noticed in high school

t-and-f: Minnesota Distance Classic - Mo' Money

2001-04-06 Thread Jack Moran
In addition to the $1,000 purses previously announced for the Men's and Women's 5000 meter runs, the Minnesota Distance Classic will also award $1,000 in the Women's 1 meter run ($500/$300/$200). Also, $500 will be awarded the first man to finish the mile under four minutes. There has been j

Re: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 4/6/01 9:08:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << David is quite correct in his observation that you can't simply put down a curb (kerb) on a track without one. >> Actaully you COULD, but the effective (if not the actual distance) would change. The indoor track at Yale's

RE: t-and-f: Record duration

2001-04-06 Thread Post, Marty
It oughtta be real interesting to see what Mr. 12:49.87/26:27.85 runs in London on April 22. -Original Message- From: Mcewen, Brian T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:27 PM To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail) Subject: RE: t-and-f: Record duration <<<

RE: t-and-f: Record duration

2001-04-06 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
<<< Thirty years ago, perhaps it was true that fewer of the best runners were running the marathon, although I think the cream of the crop - Shorter, Rodgers, etc - wouldn't have been beaten by any of the shorter distance runners. >>> In many cases over the last 35 years, the best 5k/10k runner

RE: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
A curb on the infield would not really serve the purpose of a curb at all. -Original Message- From: David Dallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:09 AM To: Mcewen, Brian T Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks I don't think you have t

RE: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread David Dallman
I don't think you have to reline the track, you just have to put the curb 10 cm inside the inner line so that the measuremnt 30 cm out from there is just the same place as 20 cm out was when there was no curb. I think lane 1 IS 10 cm wider than the other lanes on tracks with curbs. I just didn't

Re: t-and-f: Fullerton humor

2001-04-06 Thread Kurt Bray
>On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 05:43:21 , you wrote: > > > > >>How about "harrier"? If it wasn't for Marc Bloom, I doubt anyone would >even > >>know what the term means. > > > >Its literal meaning is one who chases hares. But it's not too hard to >see > >how that was stretched to mean cross country runn

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

2001-04-06 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
mplatt wrote: >In 1999 30 guys broke 2:09 and the marathon has always been a weak event (the >best runners are not running it) I bet there are conservatively 100 more that >could have. Every so often, this opinion comes up and I always have to laugh. Thirty years ago, perhaps it was true that f

RE: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
David Dallman said: <<< Although tracks with and without a curb (kerb in England) are both allowed, the distance away from the inside at which the 400 metre distance is measured is different in the two cases. >>> Here is the method of measurement (as told to me by Wayne Armbrust): <<< The "mea

Re: t-and-f: Fullerton humor

2001-04-06 Thread John Lunn
If the Fullerton coach posts his workouts, and the workout calls for a lap recovery, what does that mean? Malmo can you help? JL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  To answer why basketball players are called cagers, I looked up the answer. Professional basketball began (1896) in New York City and was at

Re: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
David Dallman wrote: > I hope I have got this right, Wayne will certainly correct me if not. > Although tracks with and without a curb (kerb in England) are both > allowed, the distance away from the inside at which the 400 metre distance > is measured is different in the two cases. This is pr

Re: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread David Dallman
I hope I have got this right, Wayne will certainly correct me if not. Although tracks with and without a curb (kerb in England) are both allowed, the distance away from the inside at which the 400 metre distance is measured is different in the two cases. This is precisely because it is easier to

Re: t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

2001-04-06 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Some 500 schools and 2000 athletes will grace our facility in two > weekends, with our staff willing to accept any and all suggestions to > make the situation tops for those great student/athletes. Only 4 athletes per school? I would suggest the inefficiency of pro