Re: t-and-f: Gabe got his wish

In a message dated 6/24/01 2:05:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Who's to say what he was thinking, but it > did appear that he was gauging his race off of others in the field. > Ya think?!?

t-and-f: Meb Keflezighi - 10K AR Video

Listers, I don't know if word ever hit the list or not, but VHS copies of Meb Keflezighi's 27:13.98 10K American Record are availabe from http://www.skizzim.com Once the current supply is gone we may not order any more tapes because it is not cost effective unless we get them produced in bulk, s

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

The "kids" were much less arrogant and much more experienced than the population that I read now. Just not as polished with their BS. Mike "not a kid"

Re: t-and-f: Gabe got his wish

--- Geoff Pietsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did Dave Cameron see the race on ESPN? (And if he didn't, why is he > commenting about Jennings's strategy?) Jennings ran a gutty race and > looked like he might win until the last 80 - and looked sure to make > the top 3 until the last 15 meters. F

Re: t-and-f: Golds over long time span in WC's

Okay, sports fans, corrections/clarifications on Privalova: First of all, she's out for the year with a knee injury. Even had she remained healthy, she didn't get any golds in Tokyo, so the ten-year thing wouldn't have been possible anyway. In Tokyo, she did get Silver on the 4x100, but didn't

Re: t-and-f: Gabe got his wish

Give me one reason to think that you may have any insight into this level of competition that would enable you to make a Monday morning quarterback comment such as that. > Yesterday someone posted a link to a Runner's World interview with > Gabe Jennings - where Gabe seemed to be emphasizing

Re: t-and-f: Gabe got his wish

I'm new to this list and have been a bit put off by the volume of postings to sift through. I'll stay with the list because of the postings by some really good people, BUT postings like this one are beyond absurd. Did Dave Cameron see the race on ESPN? (And if he didn't, why is he commenti

re: t-and-f: Golds over long time span in WC's

First thing to note- until the IAAF switched the WC's to every two years by inserting Stuttgart in '93, there was no opportunity to win anything on an exact 10-year-time span because the possible spans were 4-8-12 and so on, just like the OG's. Be that as it may, there might be another 10-year go

t-and-f: There goes the market value

Now that Webb is not going to Worlds I guess it pretty much takes away the spotlight that track has had since he broke Ryun's record. In a perfect world, he would have been top 3, got the A standard in Europe went to worlds and competed. Hopefully the spotlight will still remain, but I'm afraid

Re: t-and-f: WARNING - USATF RESULTS DISCUSSED - DO NOT PAGE DOWN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE

who but Antonio Pettigrew, world >champion ten years ago, wins the USATF 400. It's not inconveivable that >he could win the Worlds 400 ten years after first doing so. What's the >record for most years in between a World Championship, especially in a >sprint event? Longest --> Bubka '83 - '97 (an

Re: t-and-f: Gabe got his wish

Dave - I think you're being a little harsh on Gabe. Considering he led after 1,485 meters, it's kind of hard to say he didn't run his own race. His only mistake was taking off a bit too soon and running out of gas at the end. And considering he already has the "A" standard and is early in

t-and-f: Gabe got his wish

Yesterday someone posted a link to a Runner's World interview with Gabe Jennings - where Gabe seemed to be emphasizing that there was no way Webb would beat him. I found it interesting that Gabe was concentrating on Webb rather than concentrating on winning the race. Well, Gabe got his wish.

t-and-f: US Men's 4 x 4

Are we ripe for the taking this year? Steve S. - who as a fan thinks that a certain MJ should be on the team.

t-and-f: Lewis-Francis comes of age

The Electronic Telegraph Sunday 24 June 2001 Owen Slot This week a senior athlete, next week a junior. Mark Lewis-Francis will run at any level, it seems, and deliver. Yesterday he beat an Olympic champion, and you had to pinch yourself to remember that he is still only 18 years old. The Euro

t-and-f: Former Budd blooms in her family role

The Electronic Telegraph Sunday 24 June 2001 Telford Vice She won not hearts, but records. She ran with grim Afrikaner determination in her eyes and Free State sunshine in her bare feet. She was Zola Budd and for a while she was British. Now she is Zola Pieterse and she's back where it always

t-and-f: WARNING - USATF RESULTS DISCUSSED - DO NOT PAGE DOWN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE

What a kick With Tyree Washington not making the final, and Calvin Harrison finishing last in same, who but Antonio Pettigrew, world champion ten years ago, wins the USATF 400. It's not inconveivable that he could win the Worlds 400 ten years after fir

t-and-f: Butler shows pedigree with very un-British win

The Electronic Telegraph Sunday 24 June 2001 Owen Slot Heard the one about the Canadian who came to compete for Britain? It's happening so often, we are now starting to build up a tidy little collection. First came Lennox Lewis, then Greg Rusedski, and now we can add another: Kathy Butler. And

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

In a message dated 06/23/2001 10:36:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How come? 1. Sprinters don't know how to use computers? (I don't buy that) 2. Sprinters too busy training to find time to surf? (train more than distance   runners???) 3. Cultural resistance to s

RE: t-and-f: Joe Rubio/Christian Hesch

Walt are you in Eugene? If so, look for Mr. Rubio immediately after the meet at 19th street café. If not there, Docs Pad Gaming and Social Center of USATF Champs. malmo > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of toby - > Sent: Saturday, June

Re: t-and-f: Eugene 100 results present relay challenge

In a message dated 06/23/2001 5:52:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "May the relay arguments begin!" and they will...since our 96 and 00 lead off leg was 6th

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

>This is something I've wondered about. I've been on this list >since mid-'95. It was in existence for maybe a year or so before >I "joined up". It's my understanding that in that first year or >so it was almost entirely made up of college-age American NCAA distance >running athletes. Not tru

t-and-f: Eugene 100 results present relay challenge

Finals MEN'S 100 METER DASH PONTIAC (w:3.1): 1. Tim Montgomery, ZMA TC 9.95; 2. Bernard Williams, Nike 9.98; 3. Curtis Johnson, HSI 10.01; 4. Dennis Mitchell, Unattached 10.07; 5. Shawn Crawford, Mizuno 10.09; 6. Jon Drummond, Nike 10.13; 7. J

t-and-f: New WPV National Records

This, by way of Peter Larsson. I appreciate the opportunity it gives to correct my error in the last posting of national records, when I credited Belin with only 3.06m. RR >At the European Cup First League Group A match in Vaasa, FIN today (23/6), >Kirsten Belin (SWE) finished second in a new NR

Re: t-and-f: Dellinger update

While Dellinger may have some speech problems, he's still coaching some runners in Eugene. Walt Murphy

t-and-f: Israeli results

Tel Aviv, June 23: Men PV: Christian Tamminga (Ned) 5.60 (series: 5.40 xo, 5.60 xxo, 5.75 xxx), Danny Krasnov 5.40. David --- David Eiger The Israeli Athletics Homepage http://eiger.tripod.com/

t-and-f: coconuts

I just saw this in a "joke of the day" email: > The liquid inside young coconuts can be used > as substitute for blood plasma. If it's true (admittedly, one of the larger if's on the market), who needs vitamins and supplements? We've got coconut doping now! Dan

RE: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

The 1600 know one cares about. The 1500 does not attract attention. It's the mile that people can relate to. malmo > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phil Weishaar > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 12:41 PM > To: Randy Treadway > Cc: [

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

RIGHT ON! maddog

Re: t-and-f: Joe Rubio/Christian Hesch

walt, pretty interesting situation, actually. some specifics are a bit foggy, but here's my recollection: christian's 22, i believe. prior to last year, he dabbled in the triathlon. as such, last year was his first time on the track. accordingly, today is something like his 14th track ra

t-and-f: Dellinger update

Netters:     There have been some queries on the list about how Bill dellinger is doing following his unfortunate storke last year.       I was at a track party in NJ last night and talked to Fred Dwyer, former Manhattan coach, who visited with Bill during the recent nCAA meet. The

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

In a message dated 6/23/01 1:50:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > he mile/1500 always has and always will be king. It's just long enough to > build excitement, but not long enough to lull you to sleep. There's > usually never any false starts/fouls and most people don'

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

Phil W. wrote: The mile/1500 always has and always will be king. It's just long enough to build excitement, but not long enough to lull you to sleep. There's usually never any false starts/fouls and most people don't pass out while competing. That's part of what made it popular with betters

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

At 07:32 AM 06/23/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >> We've always had our sprinters, but we need an American distance runner >>out there if we want to get Joe Public's attention. Just look at the make up >>of this list. There is probably more written about distance running than any >>other event

Re: t-and-f: Webb could be the one

That is a great point. I think the public wants someone that they can watch progress and for younger ones to look up to. Much like Tiger Woods. Someone that just shocks the nation. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:18 am Subject: t-and-f: W

t-and-f: Revived Thomas ready to emerge from the shadows

The Electronic Telegraph Saturday 23 June 2001 Tom Knight AT his best, Iwan Thomas could look forward to winning the 400 metres gold medal at the World Championships in Edmonton in six weeks' time. Just how far Thomas is from recapturing his best form, however, will become apparent in the Wes

Re: t-and-f: preps in the WC

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 11:03:46 EDT, GH wrote: >much has been made of preps who have made the Oly team, but somebody posed >the question to me yesterday of, "what preps have run in the WC?" (run=compete) Related question is- "what's the likelihood of that happening?" Well, number one- the WC wasn'

t-and-f: Joe Rubio/Christian Hesch

Joe (or anyone else), Could use some background information (best before this year, etc.) on Christian Hesch, who's running in today's 1500 final. Thanks for any help that can be provided. Walt Murphy

t-and-f: Cathy Freeman Born to run

The Electronic Telegraph Saturday 23 June 2001 Cathy Freeman CATHERINE FREEMAN was born to run. It is part of my destiny and I still remember my very first race as if it were only yesterday. I was five years old and I failed to see a wire fence on the way to the start of my race, but I sure fe

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

What about DGS??  With all of the insight into HSI I was almost sure that he was a sprinter.  As a distance runner I found his posts to be interesting even to me. Lurker#1 Matt

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

In a message dated 06/23/2001 11:03:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If there's an endangered species whose frame of reference is sorely missing here, how about 52% of the populace? You know, women. well, one "endangered" SPRINTER reads daily and posts...and for other

t-and-f: preps in the WC

much has been made of preps who have made the Oly team, but somebody posed thequestion to me yesterday of, "what preps have run in the WC?" (run=compete) i'm having trouble thinking of any, and don't have the to research it, so it should make good food for thought for you guys. I don't think i

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

In a message dated Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:36:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Randy Treadway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: << what I'm wondering- where are the sprint stars? I can't think of ANY who've ever joined the list, even as lurkers (although we might not know).>> Danny McCray has been a reg

t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

> We've always had our sprinters, but we need an American distance runner >out there if we want to get Joe Public's attention. Just look at the make up >of this list. There is probably more written about distance running than any >other event. This is something I've wondered about. I'v

t-and-f: Webb could be the one

Listers, I have been reading Ed Grant's posts about lack of coverage for track in NJ and I have to tell you it is the same thing here in CT. My local paper will usually only put a 3 inch column for any track news and even the local track stuff is sometimes a day late. But I just re