Re: t-and-f: Elite Track in Astrodome

2002-06-27 Thread Kurt Bray
>Oh...Astroturf came about because they couldn't grow grass there. So >is there a plan for that, too? Perhaps a removable field like in the >new Sapporo Dome? When it first opened back in the 60s, the Astrodome had nice natural grass. The dome had clear glass windows that permitted the gras

Re: t-and-f: Ja'Warren Hooker Status

2002-06-27 Thread Chas. L. Shaffer
Several list members have informed me that Hooker has had an Achilles tendon injury but hopes to be competing again next year. Apparently Orin Richburg had been coaching him this year. Best wishes to Ja'Warren. I had been afraid that he had left the sport. Charley Shaffer Seattle

t-and-f: Elite Track in Astrodome

2002-06-27 Thread Michael J. Roth
>>Oh...Astroturf came about because they couldn't grow grass there. So is there a plan for that, too? The indoor grass technology (yes, there is such a thing) has gotten to the point where grass can be used in the dome now. I think the World Cup used it for games, as grass is required. With t

t-and-f: This is what T&F needs to generate excitment and press coverage!

2002-06-27 Thread Michael J. Roth
I disagree completely. The media must get over its stupid need to invent stories (like this) and report on what is already happening. There is enough sports news already occurring in a T&F competition, where we don't need any circus crap. What we need is journalists/broadcasters with a brain.

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Kurt Bray
>Personally, I'd love to see the name of >the athletes who tested positive. I think it would be good for the sport >to >make as much as possible public. Personally, I'd love to see the nature of this person's exoneration more than the name. Was the B sample okay? Was there a lab error? Or

Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread Kurt Bray
>Barring injury, how does it hurt his "Market Value"? Male vs. female athletic contests are a no-win situation for the male. If El G wins everyone shrugs and says "So What? You beat up on girl. Big deal!" And if he loses everyone says: "You lost to WOMAN for crying out loud!" If he wins

t-and-f: Elite Track in Astrodome

2002-06-27 Thread Marko Velikonja
> Well, even after seeing an artist's rendering, I'm still having a > hard time picturing it, but here's the idea for converting the Dome > into a t&f venue (scroll down to "Athletics"): > http://www.houston2012.com/thegames-venues/reliant_park.html The design looks pretty ingenious. I didn't

t-and-f: New spin on WMA meet sanction fee

2002-06-27 Thread TrackCEO
Greetings, all World Masters Athletics has posted the particulars of how a city can bid to host the biennial world masters track championships at: http://www.world-masters-athletics.org/index.php?id=laws&l=bidder01 Also posted is a sample contract between the host Organizing Committee and WMA

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
> Definitely agree it's political maneuvering. However, > there is little PR value for the powers-that-be at the > IAAF and IOC to take down the Botswanas and Myanmars > of the world. That's where their power base lies - in > smaller, developing countries. Better to take down the > arrogant US of

Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread Michael Contopoulos
there is no way he would lose. >From: John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash >Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:36:27 -0700 (PDT) > > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > There is

t-and-f: Fwd: Scary story

2002-06-27 Thread Lee Nichols
Darn it, and I just had a friend move to Oslo. I was looking forward to seeing Bislett for the first time, free of hotel charges. > >OSLO, Norway (AP) - Marion Jones never has lost a 100-meter race at Bislett >Stadium, where 62 world records have been broken. >But Jones' next Bislett race, on Fr

t-and-f: This is what T&F needs to generate excitment and press coverage!

2002-06-27 Thread Louis LeBlanc
http://sports.yahoo.com/m/sa/news/reuters/20020627/reu-jonesguerrouj.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread John Sun
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is no way that he would do anything such as > this that may hurt his > "Market Value". The talk is just a little spice for > press. Barring injury, how does it hurt his "Market Value"? Even if he lost to Marion Jones, imagine all the hype and media exposure

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread John Sun
> The IAAF should immediately suspend every nation > that doesn't have > rigorous, independently audited, out-of competition > and in-competition > testing programs. If they do that, they might have > a little currency to > deal with the problems in the U.S. Otherwise, it is > impossible to

Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread Dan Kaplan
Ah, but the quoted text did not say 49 is the best he could run, just that that's his PR. When did he last run a timed 400? Simply a reporting issue, or the wiley ElG trying to play with words for a cushy handicap? I would guess he can run 47.0, maybe better. Dan --- Ed and Dana Parrot <[EMAI

Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread Mike Prizy
Or, Owens v. a horse Lee Nichols wrote: > I certainly hope this won't devolve into another Donovan > Bailey-Michael Johnson affair. :-) > > Lee > > >Why not 300 meters? > > > > > >Athletics-Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to > >400-metre dash > > > >OSLO (Reuters) - Moroccan world record holder

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread malmo
>The IAAF should immediately suspend every nation that doesn't have >rigorous, independently audited, out-of competition and in-competition >testing programs. >- Ed Parro I'm for it. The USATF goes down first. malmo

Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
If El G. can only run 49 for the quarter then I'll be an Olympian in 2004!! He's run what, 51 or 52 for the last lap of a 1500m before. 300m would be interesting - my money would be on El G. at anything over 250m or so. - Ed Parrot > Why not 300 meters? > > > Athletics-Guerrouj challenges Mari

Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread Elitnet
There is no way that he would do anything such as this that may hurt his "Market Value". The talk is just a little spice for press. In a message dated 6/27/2002 12:16:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I certainly hope this won't devolve into another Donovan >Bailey-Michael Johnson affair. :-)

Re: t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread Lee Nichols
I certainly hope this won't devolve into another Donovan Bailey-Michael Johnson affair. :-) Lee >Why not 300 meters? > > >Athletics-Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to >400-metre dash > >OSLO (Reuters) - Moroccan world record holder Hicham >El Guerrouj has challenged U.S. sprinter Marion Jones

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Elitnet
Thank you Ed Parrott In a message dated 6/27/2002 11:42:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > think what he's saying is that if the IAAF and IOC spent even a fraction >of the energy it spends on attacking the U.S. on enforcing its own rules >inthe other 100+ countries that have no program or woefu

t-and-f: Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash

2002-06-27 Thread John Sun
Why not 300 meters? Athletics-Guerrouj challenges Marion Jones to 400-metre dash OSLO (Reuters) - Moroccan world record holder Hicham El Guerrouj has challenged U.S. sprinter Marion Jones to a 400-metre duel ahead of the first of seven Golden League meetings in Oslo on Friday. The two athlet

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Aw well!! Do you really think that athletes from other countries who live > > here are testing regularly? Or let's take Russian athletes who now live in > > Israel. Go figure. I know a case whereby a foreign athlete who has actually > > represent his particular c

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Jonas Mureika
I thought Ben Johnson was the only one ever to have used performance enhancing drugs at the elite level, so now that he's gone, it's no longer a problem. Oh yes, there was that CJ guy and his four tests, but he retired just in time Which of these "several federations" which don't test had a

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Elitnet
Yep! several federations never test at all. It's not a fair game In a message dated 6/27/2002 11:01:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Then why bother to test at all? >

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread John Sun
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Aw well!! Do you really think that athletes from > other countries who live > here are testing regularly? Or let's take Russian > athletes who now live in > Israel. Go figure. I know a case whereby a foreign > athlete who has actually > represent his particular co

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Elitnet
Aw well!! Do you really think that athletes from other countries who live here are testing regularly? Or let's take Russian athletes who now live in Israel. Go figure. I know a case whereby a foreign athlete who has actually represent his particular country in Oly Games and World Champs and doe

Re: t-and-f: Nationals

2002-06-27 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
> - The open 100's are probably my least favorite event to watch live. > Neverthless, both centuries promised and delivered superstar wins with the > challengers at least reasonably close. It will be curious to see if > Montgomery can continue to close the gap, which is surely smaller than it > us

Re: t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread John Sun
The list keeps growingnow the IAAF claims 5 members of the US track & field team at the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games competed, even though they tested postive earlier in the year. What are the odds USATF will even address these new allegations? I'm guessing slim to none. Masback, if he even addre

Re: t-and-f: Nationals

2002-06-27 Thread DLTFNedit
- The open 100's are probably my least favorite event to watch live. Neverthless, both centuries promised and delivered superstar wins with the challengers at least reasonably close.  It will be curious to see if Montgomery can continue to close the gap, which is surely smaller than it used to be.

Re: t-and-f: Track in the Astrodome

2002-06-27 Thread Philip_Ponebshek
Mike asked: >Seems to me to hold a track meet in the Astrodome (as is being proposed for >the 2012 Olympic Games) would cause a lot of complications as to whether a >record, or any time for that matter, is recognized as an indoor record/time >or an outdoor one. >Can you count a >5k run in 1

Re: t-and-f: Title IX analysis

2002-06-27 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
> for what--to my eye at least--seems like a dispassionate and informative look at Title IX, might check this out from sports pages of SF Chronicle last weekend. > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/06/23 /SP5250.DTL > Interesting article. To someone who has

t-and-f: US on trial; Oly cheats face exposure

2002-06-27 Thread Mike Prizy
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,4-339164,00.html June 27, 2002 US sport on trial as Olympic cheats face exposure by Owen Slot, Chief Sports Reporter THE allegations that John McEnroe used steroids when he was a professional tennis player may seem shocking, they may raise questi

t-and-f: Title IX analysis

2002-06-27 Thread GHTFNedit
for what--to my eye at least--seems like a dispassionate and informative look at Title IX, might check this out from sports pages of SF Chronicle last weekend. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/06/23/SP5250.DTL

t-and-f: Track in the Astrodome

2002-06-27 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Seems to me to hold a track meet in the Astrodome (as is being proposed for the 2012 Olympic Games) would cause a lot of complications as to whether a record, or any time for that matter, is recognized as an indoor record/time or an outdoor one. Even with the top open, I would imagine that the