t-and-f: a note to my Canadian brethren

Dudes! Quit this poor-pitiful-us whining. It's not becoming of one of the greatest countries on the planet. Ben was as dirty as your week-old socks, and his camp admitted as much in the course of the Dubin Inquiry. Don't go looking for bogeymen who aren't there. Shut up and take the medicine as

t-and-f: Highlights of USATF Western Masters Regionals

Y askL Highlights of Day 1 of the USATF Western Masters Regional Championships at Mission Viejo, Calif., contested under sunny skies, high 70s and with light to moderate aiding winds in the sprints (no wind guage, unfortunately): Kevin Morning, 46, won the 100 in 11.16 -- equal third on the 20

t-and-f: is this correct??

Larry I was the doing the meet results. If any sprinter was slow at the meet is was because they didn't want to run fast (or they suck). The weather was made for sprinters, very hot, but it seemed that the distance athletes were the only ones racing hard. I vaguely remember an older girl spri

t-and-f: is this correct??

1 351 Jeavon BenjaminMetro Eagles 55.76 2 781 Candace HolnessSpeed Limit 56.34 3 780 Natasha Hastings Speed Limit 57.28 I just found these results on the USATF JO Region 1Championships site. Alot of the sprint times were partic

t-and-f: Report on doping

Netters: According to Fox News tonight, the "Exum report" is due to be released shortly Ed Grant

t-and-f: U.S. Indoor Championships look to Boston as possible site

(it was what i figured would happen - MJR) INDIANAPOLIS (July 12, 2002 6:04 p.m. EDT) - The U.S.A. Indoor Track and Field Championship is on the verge of moving to the Boston area for 2003. Within the next few weeks, officials at the Reggie Lewis Center at Roxbury Community College expect to clo

RE: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

It's good to be King. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Prizy Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 7:19 PM To: Jonas Mureika Cc: t-and-f list Subject: Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome King Malmo spoke, so I guess we hav

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

King Malmo spoke, so I guess we have to continue this off list.

RE: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

"As an aside, when Mitchell's suspension was handed down, Greene's 9.79s mark should have been stricken, since (retroactively) the race was "tainted" (competing with a suspended athlete)" You're inventing IAAF rules there, buddy. Stick to the facts. malmo

t-and-f: ENOUGH OF THIS IDIOTIC DIALOGUE

FOR THE HUNDREDTH FREAKIN TIME "innocent until proven guilty" ONLY HAS MEANING WHEN FOLLOWED BY THE PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE "in a criminal court of law". Even then, in criminal matters, if arrested, or even if only suspected of a crime, no citizen has any right to private hearings. Not in the case f

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Mike Prizy wrote: > > Drugs or apartheid. It is ALWAYS about human rights! Countries have been banned by >the IOC because of > human rights issues. > That's quite a stretch of logic! Apartheid is the act of a government opressing a people. *That* is a human rights violat

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

Jonas Mureika wrote: > They *all* compete under the flag of the IAAF, and thus should abide by > the rules set out by that federation. This isn't an issue of "human > rights". > > > Your statement: "Also, the US didn't cover up tests where they conclusively found >the individual to > > be a w

Re: t-and-f: RE: Johnson on the list

Someone who knows! Anyone familiar with the situation knows that Ben should not have been caught in the manner he was at Seoul. What entities and/or individuals had an interest in seeing him go down? Charlie and his crew were as good as or better than some of the other medallists that year at thei

t-and-f: 'nuff said

10.49. Regards, Martin ps-no one is trying to rehabilitate Ben. Take a look at the Can list archives if you want to see people eating their young. As recently as last year, someone suggested burning in hell wasn't a good enough punishment. The exact quote: "In my tamer and more accepting moments

t-and-f: 2 World Records set today

There were 2 World Records set today in the Irish National Athletics Championships at Morton Park, Santry. Gillian O'Sullivan broke the world record in the 5k walk on the track with a time of 20 mins, 2.6secs. Robert Heffernan broke his own National record in the mens' 10k walk, winning in a tim

Re: t-and-f: RE: Johnson on the list

--- Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johnson was caught breaking the rules That's highly debatable. 1) He wasn't caught when he was breaking the rules. 2) When he was caught, it appears to have been for rules he didn't break, or at least rules that weren't actually known rules at the

Re: t-and-f: Re: Dubin comm in US

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Richard McCann wrote: > There is no leverage for this type of commission unless someone is actually > caught by a test. There is a list of a multitude of US athletes who *have* failed drug tests, dating back to the Seoul Olympics. This gives compete leverage for "that type

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Mike Prizy wrote: > > A major issue here is that there are over 200 countries with varying degrees of >individual rights > and constitutional laws trying to work with rules established by a sports >organization. > They *all* compete under the flag of the IAAF, and thus sh

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

At 07:24 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. >Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:24:43 -0700 (PDT) >From: Jonas Mureika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome > >On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Post, Marty wrote: > > > He also extended his world record lifetime total of su

t-and-f: Re: Dubin comm in US

At 07:24 PM 7/12/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. >Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:45:57 -0400 >From: "Martin J. Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome > >Do a Dubin. Take it out of the hands of the sporting bodies. Steroids are >getting more and more play

t-and-f: RE: Johnson on the list

>Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT) >From: Jonas Mureika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome > >I never accused Greene's marks of being "such", nor do I intend my remarks >to be taken in that light. However, it is naive suggest that Ben Johnson >

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

What does the money have to do with it? Are you saying that East German marks from the 1970s are acceptable because they were set under amateur rules? Jonas Mureika wrote: > > > They also didn't win gold medals and receive multi-million dollar > endorsement deals as a result of being "non-witch

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

That is right. We have a scientific method of testing in place that we have to rely on. If we don't like or agree with the method or the people who are entrusted to do the drug testing, then we need to change the method and/or vote the bums out - if that is what they are. A major issue here is

t-and-f: USATF Release: Hot times on and off the track at Bahamas Pre-Worlds Meet

Contact:Melissa Beasley Communications Coordinator USA Track & Field 317-261-0478 x335 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Saturday, July 13, 2002 Hot times on and off the track at Bahamas Pre-Worlds Meet

Re: t-and-f: Erv Hunt-Stepping Down as Cal Coach

> From this morning's SF Chronicle sports page: > > Hunt said his decision to resign as coach was based on the changing > nature of today's student-athletes and the difficulty of fielding a > competitive team at Cal, the only school in the Pac-10 not fully > funded with scholarships for men's and

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

>I believe Canada must be the >only country to produce a "fastest man" both before and after assuming the >position which the US has yet to do. Born in Jamaica. Trained in the US by American coaches. Singlet and shorts provided by Canada. If Bill Clinton can redefine the English dictionary, I su

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

To play the devil's advocate, if want you to use sarcasm to make the point-let's go with the McCarthy. But just because Joe's methods weren't the best doesn't mean that the US government didn't have any communist spies. A thought came to mind while running this morning. I believe Canada must be th

t-and-f: Erv Hunt-Stepping Down as Cal Coach

>From this morning's SF Chronicle sports page: Cal track coach resigns John Crumpacker, Chronicle Staff WriterSaturday, July 13, 2002 -- -- Erv Hunt, Cal's longest-tenured coach, has stepped down as head

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Mike Prizy wrote: > > This was done once before. I believe it was called Salem Witch Trials. > A bit of a difference... At the time of the Salem Witch Trials, there was no scientific method of testing whether or not the individuals were witches (burning them didn't count).

Re: t-and-f: CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond de Montreal II

Well, that's what's wrong with him then. I never heard that he was injured. "Martin J. Dixon" wrote: > Actually, there is nothing wrong with that performance if all the facts are at > your disposal. He only started doing a bit of mileage and light workouts a > month ago after recovering from an

Re: t-and-f: CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond de Montreal II

First Webb, now Special K... Broe's been a bit off form this year. Nothing big from McMullen. If it weren't for Brannen having a good year, I'd be a bit worried that whole group had gotten malaria or something. Dan -- still smarting from the flogging I took for questioning Webb's decision to

Re: t-and-f: CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond deMontreal II

Sully was injured all winter with a stress fracture in his back (I believe). He suffered it during a race. >From: "Wayne T. Armbrust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Wayne T. Armbrust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: T-AND-F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les In

Re: t-and-f: CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond de Montreal II

Actually, there is nothing wrong with that performance if all the facts are at your disposal. He only started doing a bit of mileage and light workouts a month ago after recovering from an undiagnosed stress fracture that he has had since the indoor season. We should all come off an injury so poor

Re: t-and-f: CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond de Montreal II

What's the problem with Sully? He should be able to do repeats at that pace. Michael Scott wrote: > CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond de Montreal II > Canadian Olympian and national record holder Kevin Sullivan fell short in > his bid to claim a Commonwealth Games berth

Re: t-and-f: Greene sets career record at Rome

> Do a Dubin. Take it out of the hands of the sporting bodies. Steroids are > getting more and more play in the media. Time to have a congressional inquiry. > Everybody knows who is/was likely dirty. Subpoena them or other witnesses > familiar with them to testify under penalty of perjury. Let the

t-and-f: US TV Reminder

Coverage of Friday's Golden League meet in Rome will be shown today(Saturday) on ESPN from Noon-1pm(EDT). The events that will be shown: Men's and Women's 100 Women's 400 Men's 800 Women's 1500, Men's Mile Women's 100-hurdles Men's 400-hurdles Highlights of the men's and women's 5000s Men

t-and-f: CanAm Stats: 2002 Performance Rankings (using IAAF Scoring Tables)

CanAm 2002 Performance Rankings (using IAAF Scoring Tables) Women's Rankings 117531:42.7410,000 Megumi Tanaka Japan Boston I 117131:46.3110,000 Kazue OgoshiJPN/DaihatsuBoston I 115032:10.2610,000 Merima Hashim EthiopiaBo

t-and-f: CanAm Stats: 2002 Event Rankings

CanAm 2002 Top Ten Rankings by Event Men's 800-meters 1:45.58 Otukile Lekote BotswanaMontreal 1 1:46.02 --- Lekote BotswanaMaine 1:46.49 --- Lekote BotswanaMontreal II 1:46.52 Bryan Woodward Nike Farm Team Maine 1:46.76 Jebrah Harris Tennessee Montreal

t-and-f: CanAm Stats: All-Time Best Rankings by Event '98-'02

CanAm High Performance Distance Circuit All-Time Best Event Rankings, 1998-2002 Women's 800 1:59.45 M. Rainey-Valmon Reebok Enclave '98 Montreal 2:00.26 Chantee Earl, Farm Team, '02 Maine 2:00.2* Regina Jacobs Mizuno '99 Maine 2:01.50 Nicole Teter Reebok Aggies ¹01 Montreal 2:01.95 Jennifer Toom

t-and-f: CanAm IV Results: Internationaux de demi-fond de Montreal 2

Internationaux de demi-fond de Montreal 2 Montreal, Qc Centre Claude Robillard - Friday 12-07-02 COMPLETE RESULTS - FINALS

t-and-f: CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond de Montreal II

CanAm 2002 Concludes with Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond de Montreal II (Montreal, Quebec) -- Despite steady winds that hampered performances all evening at the Les Internationaux de Demi-Fond de Montreal II at Centre Claude Robillard in Montreal, the final stop on the 2002 CanAm High Perfor