On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, ghill wrote:
> Ben was as dirty as your week-old socks, and his camp admitted as much in
> the course of the Dubin Inquiry. Don't go looking for bogeymen who aren't
> there.
I don't think that anyone is claiming Ben's innocence. After all, as you
indicate, he did admit to
G, all:
M45 sprinter Kevin Morning went home to Santa Clara disappointed, but new M40 high
jumper Tom Van Zandt had to be pleased with his winning effort on the closing day of
the USATF Western Regional Masters Championships on July 14, 2002, at Mission Viejo,
Calif.
And oft-decorated distanc
Overlooked somewhat amidst all the great Golden Gala performances was a
3:50.69 mile for 18-year-old Cornelius Chirchir, #2 all-time world junior.
The only other junior miler to break 3:51, Noah Ngeny, went on to run the
second fastest mile in history and win the Olympic 1500 meters gold medal in
>The main problem I (and the Canadian brethren) have is with the treatment
>Ben received and *continues* to receive, compared with that given to other
>nabbed cheats.
I agree that Ben received harsher punishment than most other drug cheats.
But he was a repeat offender - a bad apple that clear
--- Kurt Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree that Ben received harsher punishment than most
> other drug cheats. But he was a repeat offender
The problem is, he received the harsh punishments before he had a chance
to become a repeat offender. The repeat offenses merely made him a
laughin
In a message dated 7/15/02 9:28:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>For those keeping score, Chirchir -- who has also run 3:33 this year --
> is about nine months younger than Alan Webb.
Any word on when he will leave university and return to his preparatory
school coach?
Jim Gerweck
Running Ti
The dispute is usually between the Canadian members on the list and all
others, not the general international members. Every drug test apparently
has some controversy about how it was administered. Johnson's falls into
that broad category.
RMc
At 10:49 AM 7/14/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wro
At 01:27 PM 7/13/2002 -0700, Jonas Mureika wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Richard McCann wrote:
>
> > There is no leverage for this type of commission unless someone is actually
> > caught by a test.
>
>There is a list of a multitude of US athletes who *have* failed drug
>tests, dating back to the S
Can anyone provide some insight on how fields for various Golden League
events are assembled? I ask because it has been disappointing this year to
see the mile contested at Oslo and Rome with nary a U.S. (or U.K.) runner
in sight. Lassiter and Berryhill are active this season in Europe, and
At 10:49 AM 7/14/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:04:21 -0400
>From: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: t-and-f: ENOUGH OF THIS IDIOTIC DIALOGUE
>
>FOR THE HUNDREDTH FREAKIN TIME "innocent until proven guilty" ONLY HAS
>MEANING WHEN FOLLOWED BY THE PREPOSITIONAL PHR
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Richard McCann wrote:
> >There is a list of a multitude of US athletes who *have* failed drug
> >tests, dating back to the Seoul Olympics. This gives compete leverage for
> >"that type of commission".
>
> But none of those are fallen national heroes who lost millions in pot
For anyone who cares about whatever happened to Zola Budd, check out latest
issue of Sports Illustrated (Ted Williams cover). Two pages in a long
"Where Are They Know?" section.
Marty,
for those of us who cant get our hands on it and are still interested, please fill us in, in a nutshell.
thanks
bob
>For anyone who cares about whatever happened to Zola Budd, check out latest
>issue of Sports Illustrated (Ted Williams c
Yeah right. Just wait until Webb gets a Kenyan passport. He'll be 20 months younger
than Chirchir!
malmo
>In a message dated 7/15/02 9:28:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>>For those keeping score, Chirchir -- who has also run 3:33 this year --
>> is about nine months younger than Alan Webb.
Dear friends,
Highlights of the 2nd day of the national championships (Tel Aviv, July 15):
Men
200m Final A (+1.9): Gidon Jablonka 20.98, Alex Porkhomovskiy 21.27, Tal Mor
21.30.
800m Final A: Ivan Komar (BLR) 1:50.37, Ilan Moradi 1:52.01.
5000m: Mokat Derba 14:26.74.
400mH: Tomasz Rudnik (POL) 5
At 10:35 AM 7/15/2002 -0700, Jonas Mureika wrote..
>Not to sound overly cynical, but isn't that convenient? Why haven't
>individuals like Randy Barnes, Dennis Mitchell, or CJ Hunter (who *did*
>offend multiple times before the fact) lost millions and had all their
>marks stricken from the record
Contact:Tom Surber
Media Information Manager
USA Track & Field
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USATF News & Notes
Volume 3, Number 68 July 15, 2002
Kreiner wins in Europe
Kim K
> Sorry, but NONE of these athletes lost millions in income, as Ben did,
from
> their suspensions. I doubt Barnes and Hunter combined earned a million
> total in their competitive careers. Mitchell was already at the end of
his
> career and was only earning pick up change. Nope, Johnson had a m
The lesson of all of this is that Ben should have phoned his lawyers instead of
gone home. As far as Slaney goes, don't make me laugh. There is no difference
between her and Ben. They are both cheats. Ben took it like a man and
Mary-well...she is still crying about 1984 let alone the drug test. Go
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Richard McCann wrote:
> Sorry, but NONE of these athletes lost millions in income, as Ben did, from
> their suspensions.
This was figurative with respect to the other athletes. Perhaps I should
have said "no one else lost absolutely everything in their life" except
Ben. M
>I can't speak for others, but I believe the prevailing opinion is that his
>marks were no less legit than most others regarded as valid.
Well, if the other marks are no less legit then you strongly imply that all
the other top sprinters are cheating too. And if you choose to take this
cynical
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