Re: t-and-f: St. John's

2003-01-04 Thread ghill
Nasty-nasty situation. While there's no doubt the current climate is an abomination and is punishing innocents, I'd take this setup anyday over the way it was pre-Title IX when women were pointedly excluded from collegiate athletic endeavours altogether. The problems faced by today's men are a

t-and-f: USC football

2003-01-04 Thread ghill
Anybody notice what a huge role former SoCal prep sprinters played in the Trojans' big win the other night? Justin Fargas, Kareem Kelly, Sultan McCullouch We're def. losing more speed talent than we used to. gh

t-and-f: The best non-Olympian and a new category

2003-01-04 Thread Bill Allen
With the nominations we currently have before us, I'd vote for Fonville, Varoff, Dodds and Williams in about that order. Now, how about Olympians who rise to the occasion? That is, athletes who, either not sure bets or wholly unexpected, come along every four years and make the team. I

RE: t-and-f: USC football

2003-01-04 Thread Bloomquist, Bret
Did you catch the Texas-LSU game where Roy Williams single-handidly won the game? He's the best prep decathlon prospect I've ever seen: His senior year in high school, he ran 10.30 FATs in the 100 (he was consistent with that), 25-6 long jumper, 7-2 high jumper, 45-flat split on 1,600 relay. As

Re: t-and-f: USC football

2003-01-04 Thread ghill
of course, you all remember that Fargas's father is Antonio Fargas, who played Huggy Bear on Starsky Hutch. From: Allen Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:33:59 -0800 (PST) To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: USC football Kareem

Re: t-and-f: USC football

2003-01-04 Thread ghill
since he turns 21 on Monday, calling him a true freshman must be about as far as one can possibly stretch that definition! From: Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:25:32 -0500 To: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

t-and-f: Beamonesque reactions

2003-01-04 Thread Robert Hersh
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have relatively decent footage of Bob Beamon's record jump in Mexico, complete with officials bringing the traditional tape measure when they discovered that the optical device wasn't set up to handle a 29-2 1/2(8.90) jump.I still remember

Re: t-and-f: Beamonesque reactions

2003-01-04 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 1/4/2003 5:44:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, Robert Hersh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could be wrong, but I don't think the Little Red Book existed back then, because I remember that the conversion table that I was using was event-specific, and the long jump table stopped at

Re: t-and-f: St. John's

2003-01-04 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
No, I'm sorry. I can't go along with this typical leftist logic (an oxymoron if there ever was one). There is no way that discrimination against a group of people who never discriminated against anyone can correct past discrimination against another group. ghill wrote: Nasty-nasty situation.

RE: t-and-f: The best non-Olympian and a new category

2003-01-04 Thread Chapman, Robert
Now, how about Olympians who rise to the occasion? That is, athletes who, either not sure bets or wholly unexpected, come along every four years and make the team. Staying true to my Hoosiers, how about Dave Volz in '92, coming from out of the sport for ?4+? years to 5th in the Games in '92?

Re: t-and-f: USC football

2003-01-04 Thread Mike Prizy
Staying on the West Coast, there is a fair amount of jump talent lost also. The Bay Area folks might know of the great athletic abilities of the San Francisco 49ers wide receiver, No. 89, Tai Streets (U. of Mich.) He was all everything (football-basketball-track) at ***Thornton H.S.*** (South

Re: t-and-f: St. John's

2003-01-04 Thread ghill
Excuse me? Did I say anything about correction? Or suggest payback of any kind? I said the current system sucked (and needs fixing). I said the past system sucked (and needed fixing). I then said that of the two sucky systems, I preferred the current one. gh ps--but for sake of argument, if I

Re: t-and-f: Beamonesque reactions

2003-01-04 Thread Aferr48
While we're on the topic, I vividly remember watching the broadcast at home in Brooklyn. Just as Beamon started his approach run the audio on the broadcast when out. In silence I watched that long graceful sail through the air and Beamon's stunned reation. With nothing to hear and only

t-and-f: Pittsburgh marathon winner DQ'd

2003-01-04 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
See the story at: http://sports.yahoo.com/m/sa/news/ap/20030104/ap-pittsburghmarathon.html - Ed Parrot

Re: t-and-f: The best non-Olympian and a new category

2003-01-04 Thread Benji Durden
The below U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials winners should top any such dark horse list: Mark Conover (1988) I picked Conover to make the team (ask Marty Liquori). I had run the Cal International race he qualified in where there were 30+ mph headwinds most of the race and knew his performance was

Re: t-and-f: St. John's

2003-01-04 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Ah, another left-wing cliché, that conservatives have something in common with fascists. Conservatives don't like either leftists or fascists since both are totalitarian and deny people freedom in order to impose an ideological agenda. On the other hand, I don't just talk about equal

RE: t-and-f: St. John's

2003-01-04 Thread Fred Finke
Hey everyone, JMHO, but it might be time to take this discussion off the list. Fred Finke List moderator -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wayne T. Armbrust Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:41 PM To: track list Subject: Re: t-and-f: St.