Re: t-and-f: Kipketer Runs 8:05 ...Steeple!

More specifically I believe the other dude is Wilson Boit Kipketer who is the steepler. In a message dated 5/15/2002 4:49:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I was checking the Qatar Grand Prix results and did a double take when I saw the results for the 3000m Steeplech

Re: t-and-f: Kipketer Runs 8:05 ...Steeple!

Might be a misprint. I beleive there are two Kipketers In a message dated 5/15/2002 4:49:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I was checking the Qatar Grand Prix results and did a double take when I saw the results for the 3000m Steeplechase. Is it safe to say that Kipket

Re: t-and-f: yelling at runners (was: favortie sport...)

A regional thing? GH you must have doen all of your training at night. What Dan has described is word for word the dialogue that I hear many times a month and have tolerated for over 20 years now. It is worse now than ever and worse in suburbs than in the seediest parts of innercities. The mos

Re: t-and-f: yelling at runners (was: favortie sport...)

A regional thing? GH you must have done all of your training at night. What Dan has described is word for word the dialogue that I hear many times a month and have tolerated for over 20 years now. It is worse now than ever and worse in suburbs than in the seediest parts of innercities. The mos

Re: t-and-f: Indoor running track construction

I think the track would be 942 feet long. In a message dated 1/13/2003 12:36:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Well, if one is going to run 5 hours on a 150m track, a station to > de-corticate the runner before-hand would obviously be necessary (to prevent > psychosi

t-and-f: Hickman?

What is Libbei Hickman's status. She ran great race this weekend. I am very confused? Mike Platt

Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

At least Costas could have used an original line. His analogy was old as dirt. Mike Platt

Re: t-and-f: Marion Jones' Other Flag

GNC?

Re: t-and-f: Uninformed comments on men's 200m final

It is equally absurd to assume a persons individual accomplishments are predetermined by race. Sure, in general, East Africans are small, West Africans are strong and quick but, generalities determine nothing for an individual. If I am a white guy with even a little talent I know I am going to

Re: t-and-f: women's 10,000m records

In terms of achievement yes more impressive. In terms of effort and difficulty it pales. Mike Platt

Re: t-and-f: Scientific Facts for Suzy

In a message dated 10/5/00 8:56:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This was passed on to me from Coach Jim Hunt, All American Long Distance > Running Coach -- > > > From "Dr. Hunt!" Bill, you asked for it. Suzy Favor Hamilton collapsed in > the finals of the Oly

Re: t-and-f: Steroids and major league baseball

In a message dated 10/11/00 1:13:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As for hockey players, watch "Snapshot" and it still holds true today, those > guys are old school, they just drink. > > Grote > adiRP Sorry to disagree (not really, I actually love disagreeing). Hocke

Re: t-and-f: Suzy Hamilton Interview = High Anxiety

In a message dated 10/12/00 6:22:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have seen a few other milers of various abilities who have had this > problem to varying degrees, either tending to fall or simply have the arms > and legs flay out to the side at the end of some races.

Re: t-and-f: Suzy Hamilton Interview = High Anxiety

In a message dated 10/12/00 7:18:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have also seen it in one or two sub 4:00 type miles - usually someone who > was near the front and faded down the stretch while trying desperately to > hang on. I have seen it in open and masters runne

Re: t-and-f: Suzy Hamilton Interview = High Anxiety

In a message dated 10/13/2000 1:20:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Also, some might say that he, too, got more acclaim than his performances might merit... Dan >> At the expense of Schul and Dellinger, who should be more acclaimed. Mike Platt

Re: t-and-f: Privalova moving up?

In a message dated 10/13/00 7:49:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > That was also about half a century ago. Racing has become more specific now. > Of course Zatopek also won the 5k and 10k gold that year, something that > even Geb can't do. > > Alan Would you be sho

Re: t-and-f: Privalova moving up?

two words...John Treacy. Mike Platt

Re: t-and-f: Re:Angry White Lesbians

> << Many of the > > parents in > > my neighborhood (men and women) felt blindsided by it. I was > > horrified that > > that ad came on while I was watching the Games with my 8 year old > > daughter. >> How is she going to go to school or a party or even open the door on Halloween

Re: t-and-f: Mo Greene

In a message dated 10/16/00 12:50:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > .. My all time top 5 list reads: > > Bob Hayes > Maurice Greene > Carl Lewis > Linford Christie > Valery Borzov > > What do others think ?? > > Conway Hill > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think once y

Re: t-and-f: Mo Greene

In a message dated 10/16/00 7:25:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I take it that was aimed at Christie .. His suspension took place after his > competitive days therefore I left him on my list .. Anything else would be > speculation .. And if we are going to get int

Re: t-and-f: Mo Greene

In a message dated 10/16/00 7:25:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I take it that was aimed at Christie .. His suspension took place after his > competitive days therefore I left him on my list .. Anything else would be > speculation .. And if we are going to get int

Re: t-and-f: What's the deal?!

In a message dated 10/16/00 8:51:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At the top of elite-dom, is the XC distance so > specialized that people like Ngeny and El Guerrouj could not realisticly > be competitive? > > RT With a little tweaking to their training they would

Re: t-and-f: Drugs - part 2

In my entire life I have only placed the picture/poster of one athlete on my wall.(excluding my own, hey I am my own fav athlete) That picture is of an extremely popular Athletics West athlete who has gone to the well so deeply I thought this guy mus thave cajones of steel. I assume from the in

Re: t-and-f: Trivia etc.

In a message dated 10/26/00 6:33:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'll guess (smile) that Malmo's comment has to do with the first > statement and not Dan's. If not, I'll have to side w/ Dan here. I > think I brought this up somewhere else, if I'm repeating myself, I

Re: t-and-f: Cottrell Hunter .... retiring?

In a message dated 11/1/00 7:01:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > -- Walt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hunter announced his retirement in an interview he did with NBC's Ahmad > > Rashad in Sydney before the public announcement of his positive tests. > Just like th

Re: t-and-f: short note

In a message dated 11/6/00 8:51:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Also 11th in the Olympic Trials in the 20k Walk in only her 3rd walking > race and on less then 100 miles walking. Some good kung-fu going on there! > You are leading with your chin! ;-) Platter

Re: t-and-f: RE: : Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?

In a message dated 11/8/00 5:43:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And while you are at it, explaining things, whoever the explainer may be, > can you address this issueROCHESTER > > Grote > adiRP Rochester is a fine place to train with a group assembled th

Re: t-and-f: RE: : Team USA Training Centers - How and Why?

In a message dated 11/8/00 8:53:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Rochester... > > Nothing more than a vacation spot for the New Mexico > based Shawn Hellybuyck stable of athletes. The list is > of athletes that she represents. > > Politics, Politics. Bravo for Kei

t-and-f: Fall Cross Nats

Can anyone assist me in locating the results of the TAC/USATF fall cross nationals for the years 1990-1995. Thanks, Mike Platt

Re: t-and-f: Doug Schneebeck deserves our vote

In a message dated 11/17/00 1:11:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Greetings, all: > > This morning I mailed the following letter to the masters chairman of San > Diego USATF, my local association. I hope some of you will send a similar > letter to YOUR association

Re: t-and-f: Doug Schneebeck deserves our vote

In a message dated 11/17/00 5:47:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > the point is guys, that USATF should be funding, in some way, all levels of > > athletes...read what the initials represent, slowly.louise > The American League does not represent all Ameri

t-and-f: re: tnf doug scneebeck....

In a message dated 11/18/00 2:21:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Mpplatt whined: > > > In a message dated 11/17/00 1:11:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> Greetings, all: > >> > >>

Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info

It's a race and cross country at that. The only split that matters is the one timing from the start to the finish. Geez, makin this way to complicated to enjoy. Mike Platt

Re: t-and-f: National X-country championships

In a message dated 11/22/00 1:51:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > live in Boston, and intend to watch the > races this weekend in Franklin Park. > I assume it is on Sunday; does anyone know > what time it starts? > > Thanks, > It's Saturday

Re: t-and-f: Hematocrit and EPO

In a message dated 11/30/00 12:38:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > From: "Mcewen, Brian T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: t-and-f: Use a simpler test to wipe out EPO > They are different than the steroids and the amphetamines, they should be > tested for in a different

Re: t-and-f: Sacramento WAVA 2005 bid revived

In a message dated 12/5/00 9:24:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Greetings, all: > > Never say never in masters track. > > A day after the USATF Masters Track & Field Committee voted 22-8 to reject > Sacramento's request to be the U.S. representative in the biddi

Re: t-and-f: Official statement on 2005 WAVA bid

In a message dated 12/6/00 1:37:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Those supporting the proposal felt the opportunity to bring this championship > > to the US was so great that we would be injudicious not to make this bid. > The benefits to US Track & Field would be

Re: t-and-f: Incredible!

In a message dated 12/8/00 7:39:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Curtis Frye has pulled off a major coup. His new signings are simply > staggering. If these young ladies can continue to develop SC will be > unbeatable for the next 4 to 5 years. > Good job Curtis!

Re: t-and-f: Incredible!

In a message dated 12/8/00 8:27:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dgs1170 writes: > Not for the women. > First and foremost they have 17/18 scholarships. The girls you see before > you can span 2-4 events at the NCAA level, at the minimum 2. This makes it > all the same. Plus, in the history of

Re: t-and-f: Foot Locker Boys Results

Seth Pilkington 6th. You plant corn, you get corn. Mike

Re: t-and-f: Re: Liars Club

He was an actor. He's a liar, he's dead. What is so distinguished about that? So he developed a likable persona. Probably good for bizness. Big F deal. My grandfather drove motorcycles into the front lines in WW2. Got his leg half blown off. Came back and drove a truck for forty years because he

Re: t-and-f: EPO Question/steroids

In a message dated 8/2/01 5:11:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Lastly but definitely not least, the kids that Brian said stopped smoking pot > 10 days before a drug test either 1) All failed that drug test because it > takes at LEAST 30 days for THC to go down to a lo

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker South - why so fast?

In a message dated Mon, 26 Nov 2001 1:19:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's even more amazing is that Bobby Curtis got beat. He's ran 14:44 this > year on a course with a decent climb. Look for him to be up there at > Footlocker Nationals. > > Alan

RE: t-and-f: Lydiard's prophecy on marathon record

That's why they are coaches and EP's instead of world record holders. It only matters what the athletes believe! Platter In a message dated Fri, 7 Dec 2001 8:51:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Post, Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you think that comment on the limit of the men's marat

Re: t-and-f: Famous People Who Have Run Track?

Strangely, Hugh Hefner once raced Dennis Weaver in one of those made for cable tv celebrity track meets for charity in Hollywood. Weaver, being the rough type, kept shoving and elbowing Hefner. Hefner retaliated and a fight ensued, with Hefner getting a big edge. Meanwhile also in attendance

RE: t-and-f: National Indoor

In a message dated Fri, 11 Jan 2002 7:27:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, "John Dye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: big city, and I grew up in > small town Indiana (Plymouth, pop 5,280 -- the number of feet in a mile, Big Deal! My home town has a pop of 5,249 -- the number of feet a 1600 meter. Plat

Re: Re: t-and-f: What track can learn from Winter Games

Wow! Sounds like none of you guys like track as it is. As for myself, I like it just fine. > > How about a distance medley relay where each team decides what order they > will run the different legs in!!! >

Re: t-and-f: Checkered past?

And you guys wonder why Dick Pound is frustrated. What a joke. Platter In a message dated Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:40:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Today's stories on the women's bobsled team(s) made > > reference to Gea Johns

Re: t-and-f: Now if more people had balls like these, esp in MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA, etc

In a message dated Fri, 22 Feb 2002 4:39:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > --- Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Slightly off topic (which may well be a good thing), > > but anyone else find > > the Korean speed skating delegation's argument > > amus

Re: t-and-f: East revises his plans

re: scalps In a previous life I had an advisor/agent/coach who was British. He often used the term scalps in reference to beating "name guys". I therefor correctly assumed it could not be the "sensitive property" of the Amercian Indian and I continue to use it on occassion. Platter

Re: t-and-f: Stagnation (was: Speaking of Sprints)

In a message dated 12/10/00 6:43:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Why do you some of you suppose the Mexico City marks effected the 100 m less > than the other sprints? More start invloved less running.

Re: t-and-f: Stagnation (was: Speaking of Sprints)

In a message dated 12/10/00 7:49:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dgs1170 writes: > Please do not take this the wrong way, but that was the most uninformed > answer. More start is not the reason, especially since the start is not the > key to the race. > More running is a tricky answer because t

Re: t-and-f: PS

In a message dated 12/29/00 9:11:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << John Molavar, whom I have come to expect more of. asked > Which is easier? > a) buying illegal drugs > b) finding in person, ANYONE involved in > Greco-Roman wrestling? B me. I participated in a Gr

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

In a message dated 1/6/01 3:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, In a message dated 1/6/01 3:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > For the most part, the Club system in the US is non-existent. There are > a few milling around, Indiana Invaders is a good example, but for the >

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

In a message dated 1/6/01 8:16:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Mike would you then please enlighten me as to what clubs there are and > why the lack of a support system of 22-32 sub elite athletes and elite > athletes who don't go to college is not a problem? > >

Re: t-and-f: Club system

In a message dated 1/7/01 12:39:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As Mike Trujillo pointed out, where are the sub-elite, sub-master, local > clubs? Here in the Northeast there are a few, Westchester Puma, GBTC, > Reebok > Boston, CMS, BAA and Greater Lowell. The one

Re: t-and-f: Expunging dirty WRs

No Astreik for flo-jo. If the judges and their equipment made an error it is not the fault of the athlete and they should not be penalized. In every sport there are judgement errors by refs, umps and officials, We don't attach asteriks to those games. Why should this sport be any different? . I

Re: t-and-f: Blood Work

In a message dated 2/6/01 10:59:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can a couple blood tests tell you all of this. Let's read some examples of what you find in blood tests, how you know what caused it and how to treat it. > You will become acutely aware of > why one r

Re: t-and-f:lions and stretching and runners oh my!!

Enough of the different species analogies. You cannot compare humans to lions, if you did we all should be mating with our sisters(or brothers or mothers...) and on the Atkins diet. Here is an analogy you can use, do what Rob Decastella did when he was on top of his game. Study him and you'll

Re: t-and-f: Short/Long course cross country

In a message dated 2/19/01 1:51:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > think moving up is tougher for most people, especially when it's 4-8x > the distance. Moving down significantly in distance may make the speed > seem harsh, but at least you can run the whole thing at a

Re: t-and-f: Measurements, indoors, XC, amateurism & teams

In a message dated 2/21/01 4:28:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Well, like metrics, we've done this thread amny times before too. And I'll > say again what I always say: Team Track will never catch on. > > It will not catch on for the same reason that Team Tennis n

Re: t-and-f: WHAT'S ALL OF THIS TALK ABOUT METRIC VERSUS IMPERIAL?

In a message dated 3/2/01 11:11:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > malmo > > malmo: "You mean to say that I'm the only with a contract at tnf listserve?" > > the suits: "We mean to say that you're the only one getting paid here at > all, malmo." > > malmo: "So, u

Re: t-and-f: test your reaction time! .12 can be done....

In a message dated 3/20/01 2:15:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > i went searching, hoping for a site that would give some kind of research. > Did find this interesting thing (eh). Do this puppy a few times, then tell me > if you think a REACTION TIME (not anticipation)

Re: t-and-f: "Unsportmanlike conduct" LOL

In a message dated 3/21/01 6:36:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Taking your tiny, statistically irrelevant sample of reaction times, you > > yourself are able to point to three occasions on which you have managed a > > reaction time of 0.1, out of how many races in y

Re: t-and-f: "Unsportmanlike conduct" LOL

In a message dated 3/21/01 6:36:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Taking your tiny, statistically irrelevant sample of reaction times, you > > yourself are able to point to three occasions on which you have managed a > > reaction time of 0.1, out of how many races in y

Re: t-and-f: Distance Runners

In a message dated 3/29/01 5:28:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Even guys we've had with great talent -Scott or even Holman - have seemed to > be ok with letting people just run off from them without mustering a > challenge ... Is this because: You can't be talking a

Re: t-and-f: Track accuracy

In a message dated 4/4/01 4:27:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > During some recent work to the track they discovered that each lap was > actually 406m. How many laps does this track have? ;-) Mike

Re: t-and-f: DGs and his scriptures

My own personal motto "I would rather believe than not" that goes for anything not just religion. I am never offended by anyone BELIEVING, in anything, as long as they dont mess with my stuff. Mike

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

2:08 was always a soft time for a world best. It has never surprised me that it is now commonplace and second rate. Clayton did it, legit, MHO Mike

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

In 1999 30 guys broke 2:09 and the marathon has always been a weak event (the best runners are not running it) I bet there are conservatively 100 more that could have. It is roughly equivalent to 27:45 10k running. If you are the 20-30th best quarterback or the 30th best tennis player, etc. in

Re: t-and-f: Kristiansen's 'clean' doubt

In a message dated 4/10/01 12:59:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In a message dated Mon, 9 Apr 2001 7:32:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "malmo" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > << I have strong suspicians that a skinny Norwegean broad could possibly run > 30:13 cl

Re: t-and-f: Kennedy: What's He Doin?

He got mad! Platter In a message dated 4/30/01 1:30:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Anyone tell me what Bob Kennedy has been doing over the last year to improve > his fitness over 10,000 meters? Bunch of you said "he is ready"! > > maddog >

Re: t-and-f: info on salazar vs. rono at eugene in '82

In a message dated 5/2/01 4:12:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As much as I'd like to see this happen I can't see any American running 27:20 > this weekend. Thank god your not one of the runners, It does not matter what you think, it matters what the runners think and

Re: t-and-f: Howard and Clark

I'll go one further, you would have to be cut off from civilization or illiterate and deaf to not be aware that many over the counter medicines could blow a positive. Even at my pitiful hack level of accomplishment we ALL were warned over and over and over again to not take ANYTHING! It is a

Re: t-and-f: Arrogant officials and decisions...

Maybe the supreme court will determine that being on time in not an essential part of the sport. In fact. they can mandate that we issue kids the chip and they could start behind the field if they like. Some of the best lessons I have learned from my time in this sport came from the difficul

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

In a message dated 6/10/01 2:16:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When Tiger Woods was six he said his son was going to be the best . He was > not > wrongand this was on the TV...when Tiger was six. hmmm > He probably scanned the competition at the ti

Re: t-and-f: TV Track Coverage?

In a message dated 6/10/01 5:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If today's broadcast of the Palo Alto meet is any indication of the > quality of the Edmonton Worlds, we are all better off watching reruns of > old sitcoms on Nickolodian TV. In the past 20 minutes of co

Re: t-and-f: Webb and Hall at Nationals

Hall is in, see list below your message. Mike In a message dated 6/15/01 9:39:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I may have missed it, but did this question ever get answered? > Regards, > > > Martin > > Michael Stember 3:35.11 qualified Gabriel Jennings 3:35.21

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

In a message dated 6/23/01 1:50:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > he mile/1500 always has and always will be king. It's just long enough to > build excitement, but not long enough to lull you to sleep. There's > usually never any false starts/fouls and most people don'

Re: t-and-f: Gabe got his wish

Give me one reason to think that you may have any insight into this level of competition that would enable you to make a Monday morning quarterback comment such as that. > Yesterday someone posted a link to a Runner's World interview with > Gabe Jennings - where Gabe seemed to be emphasizing

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

The "kids" were much less arrogant and much more experienced than the population that I read now. Just not as polished with their BS. Mike "not a kid"

Re: t-and-f: Gabe got his wish

In a message dated 6/24/01 2:05:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Who's to say what he was thinking, but it > did appear that he was gauging his race off of others in the field. > Ya think?!?

Re: t-and-f: where's my Terminators?

Losing is never good. Having less options is never better. platter In a message dated 6/27/01 2:24:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Despite all the talk about "well, it's probably better this way," i think he > and the sport would have been better served had he made t

Re: t-and-f: Coaches of Foot Locker Qualifiers

Jim Harvey was the private coach of Deresa Walter and John Horkheimer, both ran at the national HS race in the late '80's, '87 and '88 I believe. Deresa and John ran for schools out of Rochester NY. Mike Platt In a message dated 11/30/2004 2:55:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Ricky Quintana" <[

Re: t-and-f: Coaches of Foot Locker Qualifiers

Jim Harvey was the private coach of Deresa Walter and John Horkheimer, both ran at the national HS race in the late '80's, '87 and '88 I believe. Deresa and John ran for schools out of Rochester NY. Mike Platt In a message dated 11/30/2004 2:55:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Ricky Quintana"