Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-30 Thread ghill
I'm no lawyer, but given the "right to work" laws prevalent in the civilized European nations (the kind of statutes that caused the downfall of the IAAF's original 4-year bans, if I'm not mistaken), depriving the world's top sprinters of the chance to compete for the huge prize money involved when

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-30 Thread Martin J. Dixon
This bunch doesn't care about the law though gh. Why would they when bad, tasteless jokes would suffice instead? We are only talking about people's lives and livelihood here. Here is a little more on the meet situation from Phil Hersh. http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/5069699.htm ghi

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-30 Thread koala
An athlete may have a right to work (compete in the meet), assuming they meet minimum standards which are probably ill-defined (but assuming M&M would pass such a test regardless of the standard), BUT... they don't necessarily have a right to an appearance fee. Would M&M bother to show up, if the

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-30 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Would M&M bother to show up, if the there is no > $$ guarantee and prize money is the only carrot? Don't you think public interest will actually be *greater* after this controversy? If anything, the appearance fees should be higher. I doubt it will have a negative

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-30 Thread koala
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:46:42 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Would M&M bother to show up, if the there is no >> $$ guarantee and prize money is the only carrot? > >Don't you think public interest will actually be *greater* after this >controversy? If anything, the appeara

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-30 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Don't you think public interest will actually be *greater* after this > >controversy? If anything, the appearance fees should be higher. I > >doubt it will have a negative impact on sponsors. > > Then why do news reports say that Nike has been > trying to encourag

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-30 Thread koala
>> >doubt it will have a negative impact on sponsors. >> >> Then why do news reports say that Nike has been >> trying to encourage Jones to disassociate herself from Francis? > >Dunno, I haven't seen those reports. > >Dan http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/5069699.htm Phil Hersh is a

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-31 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Who sponsored Sotomayor? Here's an actual criminal that should have gone to jail. Let's get him back on the playing field though. Regards, Martin "It's the hypocrisy of the IAAF that's so galling. This is an organization that makes a pretense of policing drugs. They're not hard to find. They seem

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-31 Thread Geoff Pietsch
MAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Martin J. Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ghill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: track list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:03:21 -0500 This bunch doesn't care about t

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-31 Thread ghill
mp; pillage of our air and water. (short list) gh > From: "Geoff Pietsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:23:32 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear >

RE: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-31 Thread malmo
) complicit (or any combination of). malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ghill Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:57 PM To: track list Subject: Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear It may be my fondest love, but

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-31 Thread ghill
> From: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:35:54 -0500 > To: "'ghill'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'track list'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nu

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-31 Thread John Lunn
. > > malmo > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ghill > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:57 PM > To: track list > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear > > It may be my fondes

RE: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-31 Thread malmo
tone and People, right? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of ghill Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:42 PM To: track list Subject: Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear > From: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-01-31 Thread ghill
> From: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:59:43 -0500 > To: "'ghill'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'track list'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go n

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-02-01 Thread Randall Northam
Make it one season and I would agree. You can't have people missing say September (after the big meets), October, November, December, January, February and then returning. That is unless you tie their legs together when banned and prevent them from training! But if someone is caught in May in t

Re: t-and-f: Euro meet directors threaten to go nuclear

2003-02-04 Thread Dan Kaplan
Going back a few posts... "Representatives of Nike, with whom Jones has a multimillion-dollar contract, have tried to persuade her to sever the relationship with Francis, sources said." No disrespect intended to Phil, but I expect a somewhat more concrete reference than that. More importantly, t