Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Am 18.01.2010 04:47, schrieb Alan Mintz: > > At 2010-01-17 19:33, Steve Bennett wrote: > >> According to the wiki "map features" table, a "power=station" is "A > >> tag for electricity stations. Wires from power lines come in or go out > >> here." > >> > >>

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Liz wrote: > > Redoing the tagging, and leaving the disputed tag out of the new scheme is a > way to go forward. "Redoing the tagging" is a little vague. Introduce new tags to resolve ambiguities - use them in parallel with those specified on the wiki (as specifie

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Liz wrote: > > Redoing the tagging, and leaving the disputed tag out of the new scheme > > is a way to go forward. > > "Redoing the tagging" is a little vague. Introduce new tags to resolve > ambiguities - use them in para

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ulf Lamping wrote: > The wiki has a definition of the tag and a photo of what it's meant. > > It's not a good idea to trying to "globally fix" stuff. These tags are > in wide usage, so "I'll just change the Wiki" means: "I'll change the > meaning of tags that a lot

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Steve Bennett wrote: >> Remember there are 2 active mappers out there having a specific idea >> about that tag in their head, > > That's what I'm trying to determine. I suspect that the 20,000 active > mappers actually have several different ideas in their heads. Can you > think of a good way

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Tobias Knerr wrote: > Steve Bennett wrote: > >>> Remember there are 2 active mappers out there having a specific idea >>> about that tag in their head, >>> >> That's what I'm trying to determine. I suspect that the 20,000 active >> mappers actually have several different ideas in thei

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

2010/1/18 Dave F. : > power=tower should be pylon=electricity > power=line should be cable=electricity > > Remember, we're meant to be mapping  _physical_ entities & tagging them > as such. Yes, but similar key names makes grouping a lot easier, eg a lot of amenities should be something else, but

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Dave F. wrote: > To me power is energy. It's not a physical entity. > That's just silly. Energy is a physical entity. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

John Smith wrote: > 2010/1/18 Dave F. : > >> power=tower should be pylon=electricity >> power=line should be cable=electricity >> >> Remember, we're meant to be mapping _physical_ entities & tagging them >> as such. >> > > Yes, but similar key names makes grouping a lot easier, eg a lot of

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Anthony writes: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Dave F. wrote: > >> To me power is energy. It's not a physical entity. >> > > That's just silly. Energy is a physical entity. Well, I guess he meant "physical" in the sense of a physical object - something you can touch, see and has a volume a

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Anthony wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Dave F. > wrote: > > To me power is energy. It's not a physical entity. > > > That's just silly. Energy is a physical entity. A lump of coal is not energy, just decomposed, squashed plant life in the form of (mo

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On 18/01/2010 16:03, Dave F. wrote: > A lump of coal is not energy One A. Einstein would beg to differ. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

The definition that I was taught in school was that matter could be converted into energy, and energy could be converted into matter. This is not the same thing as saying that matter is energy. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly i

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Dave F. wrote: > OK, this could degenerate into a philosophical discussion, Yeah, I should have just kept my mouth shut. > so to keep it slightly on tagging: > > Would you tag a reservoir at the head of a hydro-electric dam as a > reservoir or power? > No, I

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

2010/1/19 Matthias Julius : > Well, I guess he meant "physical" in the sense of a physical object - > something you can touch, see and has a volume and mass. Ummm... electrons have mass... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Jonathan Bennett wrote: > On 18/01/2010 16:03, Dave F. wrote: > >> A lump of coal is not energy >> > > One A. Einstein would beg to differ. Are you absolutely sure about that? Doesn't the speed of light enter into the equation somewhere? OK this was sent with my tongue in cheek. Please do

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Anthony wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Dave F. > wrote: > > OK, this could degenerate into a philosophical discussion, > > > Yeah, I should have just kept my mouth shut. > > > so to keep it slightly on tagging: > > Would you tag a reservoir

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Liz wrote: > >Redoing the tagging, and leaving the disputed tag out of the new scheme is >a >way to go forward. >I don't have Randy's qualifications, but to me a "power station" means >potential energy in and electrical energy (plus waste heat) out. >The area on the ground containing transformers

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

At 2010-01-18 18:31, Randy wrote: >Avoid using power=station (although it would be my preferred term) as a >misdefined term which, when properly used in according with the wiki, is >misused in accordance with common English understanding (acknowledging the >possible blur in the German usage). > >Us

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Dave F. wrote: > Sorry to mention it again but I think it needs reiterating: We are > mapping physical entities which should be labeled as Keys & their > descriptive use as Tags. > I'd be happy to forgive you if you'll explain why they should be labeled that way.

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

John Smith writes: > 2010/1/19 Matthias Julius : >> Well, I guess he meant "physical" in the sense of a physical object - >> something you can touch, see and has a volume and mass. > > Ummm... electrons have mass... But electrons are not power. If you want to have electrons from a power plant y

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Taking this question in two parts 2010/1/19 Alan Mintz : > Are we being > US-centric here (is the term really globally wrong)? It's not just the US, but it may be just English speaking countries. I've lived in a number of english speaking and commonwealth countries, and in all of them a power sta

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

Am 19.01.2010 05:54, schrieb Stephen Hope: > I wouldn't be so worried about it except for the fact that we use > English tags exactly so that you can make a good guess as to what the > data means without having to go to a lookup table. When almost all of > the tags are readable, then an incorrect

Re: [Tagging] What's a power=station?

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Ulf Lamping wrote: > d) I don't think it's a good idea to change a tag description two years > after it was documented, because the wording is "slightly" wrong for > some parts of the english speaking world. Because doing so is an > annoyance for anyone involved and the word