Re: [Tagging] Half-side turning circle?

2010-08-10 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Mike N. wrote: >>> I would run a way to the center of the radius, add the turning circle, >>> and >>> give it the same tags as the street. Although that segment is very >>> short, >>> it reflects the street layout. >> >> That doesn't reflect the street layout unl

Re: [Tagging] Half-side turning circle?

2010-08-10 Thread Mike N.
I would run a way to the center of the radius, add the turning circle, and give it the same tags as the street. Although that segment is very short, it reflects the street layout. That doesn't reflect the street layout unless there really is a separate physical segment of street. I'd just pl

Re: [Tagging] Half-side turning circle?

2010-08-10 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Mike N. wrote: >> It is not a separate cul-de-sac; it is just considered part of the same >> street. > > I would run a way to the center of the radius, add the turning circle, and > give it the same tags as the street. Although that segment is very short, > it ref

Re: [Tagging] Half-side turning circle?

2010-08-10 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-08-07 21:15, Alan Millar wrote: My neighborhood has some streets where there is a section like a turning circle, but it is only on one half of the street. Like this one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=45.4732&lon=-122.81386&zoom=19 It is not a separate cul-de-sac; it is just con

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "natural" borders

2010-08-10 Thread Michael Barabanov
I'd prefer relations. Duplicating the line to offset is borderline micro-mapping; I don't think micro-mapping is practical in a lot of cases right now. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Erik G. Burrows wrote: > >> I have several cases where a border polygon (national park, wilderness, > >> etc.)

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "natural" borders

2010-08-10 Thread Erik G. Burrows
>> What is the preferred way to handle this dual-purpose way? > > In some forms of rendering the boundary is rendered instead of the stream > and > the water feature disappears on the map. > The preferred Australian solution is to not reuse the same boundary but to > duplicate it. This allows all r

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "natural" borders

2010-08-10 Thread Erik G. Burrows
>> I have several cases where a border polygon (national park, wilderness, >> etc.) is defined based on a natural feature, such as a >> stream/crestline/etc. >> >> What is the preferred way to handle this dual-purpose way? >> >> Splitting the border way, creating a relation of the border pieces, an

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "natural" borders

2010-08-10 Thread Liz
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Erik G. Burrows wrote: > I have several cases where a border polygon (national park, wilderness, > etc.) is defined based on a natural feature, such as a > stream/crestline/etc. > > What is the preferred way to handle this dual-purpose way? > > Splitting the border way, creat

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "natural" borders

2010-08-10 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Erik G. Burrows wrote: > > I have several cases where a border polygon (national park, wilderness, > etc.) is defined based on a natural feature, such as a > stream/crestline/etc. > > What is the preferred way to handle this dual-purpose way? > > Splitting the bord

[Tagging] Tagging "natural" borders

2010-08-10 Thread Erik G. Burrows
I have several cases where a border polygon (national park, wilderness, etc.) is defined based on a natural feature, such as a stream/crestline/etc. What is the preferred way to handle this dual-purpose way? Splitting the border way, creating a relation of the border pieces, and adding the natur

Re: [Tagging] when to use source:location?

2010-08-10 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-08-10 04:43, Andrew Harvey wrote: ... For instance if I know there is a post office box in a certain location because I went past it, but it cannot be identified from Nearmap imagery (because its under a tree, or because that red dot on the imagery is not clear enough to identify as a pos

Re: [Tagging] Living streets in the United States

2010-08-10 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/09/2010 02:14 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > How is this different from every residential street in North America? I suspect there’s some variance from state to state here, and almost certainly even from city to city. I know in my city, in Wisconsin, the speed limit on all roads if not otherwise

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-10 Thread Dave F.
On 09/08/2010 20:05, Paul Johnson wrote: Thanks for stating the obvious. Given that in Multnomah and Washington Counties in Oregon, bicycle lanes are required to be installed on all roads more major than residential where there's physical space, the only ways left that don't fit this category a

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-10 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Thanks for stating the obvious.  Given that in Multnomah and Washington >> Counties in Oregon, bicycle lanes are required to be installed on all >> roads more major than residential

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-10 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Thanks for stating the obvious. Given that in Multnomah and Washington > Counties in Oregon, bicycle lanes are required to be installed on all > roads more major than residential where there's physical space, the only > ways left that don't fi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - trailblazed=yes

2010-08-10 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:33:46 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Paul Johnson >> wrote: >>> This could also be useful for highways; OR 99W, for example, is NOT >>> trailblazed between Barbur Boulevard and the Wa

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-10 Thread Dave F.
On 09/08/2010 20:11, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:41:21 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:26:42 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Bike lanes aren't exclusive either - cars move into them to turn right (in ri

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-10 Thread Dave F.
On 09/08/2010 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:08:20 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 08/08/2010 20:40, Paul Johnson wrote: The way I've been handling this is to stretch the limits of the bicycle=destination tag; if it's mo

Re: [Tagging] How do you map elements of an amenity_bus_station?

2010-08-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 August 2010 22:58, Michał Borsuk wrote: > Possibly. The highway=platform tag is an official one, so it should appear > as something other than a point. Just because it's on the wiki doesn't mean it will render, you need to file a trac request for enhancement if no one else has if you think

Re: [Tagging] How do you map elements of an amenity_bus_station?

2010-08-10 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 10.08.2010 14:50, John Smith wrote: On 10 August 2010 22:40, Michał Borsuk wrote: * highway=platform doesn't clutter, but then the actual location doesn't show up on mapnik If the problem is rendering, shouldn't the rendering be fixed? Possibly. The highway=platform tag is an officia

Re: [Tagging] How do you map elements of an amenity_bus_station?

2010-08-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 August 2010 22:40, Michał Borsuk wrote: > * highway=bus_stop seems to be the users' choice, but on some maps, > namely Osm2Gps (Java offline map for telephones), there is a clutter of > names, one for the amenity, one for each stop > > * highway=platform doesn't clutter, but then the actual

[Tagging] How do you map elements of an amenity_bus_station?

2010-08-10 Thread Michał Borsuk
Hi! I mostly deal with public transport, and I have an issue which I can't find in wiki, so I hope to have answers from users of bigger experience than mine. For termini, as well as for larger transfer points it makes sense to use amenity=bus_station in place of highway=bus_stop. Now the probl

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for streets with sharrows?

2010-08-10 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Mike N. wrote: >> There are a number of local streets being converted from 4-lane to 2 lanes + >> center turn + sharrows. >> >> http://bikehugger.com/2006/12/whats-a-sharrow.html >> >>  What is the best way to tag

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for streets with sharrows?

2010-08-10 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Mike N. wrote: > There are a number of local streets being converted from 4-lane to 2 lanes + > center turn + sharrows. > > http://bikehugger.com/2006/12/whats-a-sharrow.html > >  What is the best way to tag these - they were  discussed briefly in the > recent "sho

Re: [Tagging] when to use source:location?

2010-08-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 August 2010 21:43, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I would like to clarify some things that aren't clear on the wikipage > for key:source. You use source=* for where the majority of the information came from, and source:location=* if you sourced the location differently from the majority of the info

[Tagging] when to use source:location?

2010-08-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
I would like to clarify some things that aren't clear on the wikipage for key:source. If I add a POI using Nearmap imagery to get the exact location (down to 1m accuracy), but I use a survey for knowledge where abouts the entity is and what it is, then how should I tag this? For instance if I kno

[Tagging] Tagging for streets with sharrows?

2010-08-10 Thread Mike N.
There are a number of local streets being converted from 4-lane to 2 lanes + center turn + sharrows. http://bikehugger.com/2006/12/whats-a-sharrow.html What is the best way to tag these - they were discussed briefly in the recent "shoulder, etc" thread, but I can't find any consensus. I fo

Re: [Tagging] Mapping autonomous regions

2010-08-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 August 2010 19:49, Liz wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote: >> We need to come up with a better way to map and tag autonomous regions, >> particularly in North America. The talk page for the boundary= suggests >> that an administrative boundary is not the right tag; and I could

Re: [Tagging] Mapping autonomous regions

2010-08-10 Thread Liz
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote: > We need to come up with a better way to map and tag autonomous regions, > particularly in North America. The talk page for the boundary= suggests > that an administrative boundary is not the right tag; and I couldn't > disagree more. > > As a Cherokee, I

Re: [Tagging] Living streets in the United States

2010-08-10 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > How is this different from every residential street in North America? > > I don't know for US. I just say for what it was originally created in Europe. When I say the max speed is smaller, it's really smaller. See the defaults per country: h

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

2010-08-10 Thread Vincent Pottier
On 10/08/2010 03:13, Liz wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Wish there was an agriculture=* tag. Life could be simple: well living in an agricultural area I'd start with agriculture= agriculture=* is not very acurate Does it describe the use of the soil, the product

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-10 Thread Simon Biber
On Tue, 10 August, 2010 4:35:27 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:12:05 -0700, Simon Biber wrote: > > I would use bicycle=destination only if bicycles were officially > > discouraged from using the road as a thoroughfare. > > Thanks for stating the obvious. Given that in Multnomah a

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

2010-08-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:08:20 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Dave F. > wrote: >> On 08/08/2010 20:40, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> The way I've been handling this is to stretch the limits of the >>> bicycle=destination tag; if it's more major than residential, open to

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-08-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:31:33 +0100, Dave F. wrote: > On 08/08/2010 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:27:49 -0700, Simon Biber wrote: >> >>> From: John Smith >>> >>> Did I miss anything currently being mentioned in this or the fire hydrant thread? http:/