Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> Please: someone write a bot to add landmark=probably to every tree in >> Germany, > > > -1, please just for the Nürnberg area. > And what use could that possibly be in a restricted area like that? Or did you forget the smileys? From the topology analysis, I h

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] Re: social facility

We are currently discussing those suggestions. Which do people prefer: * social * social_centre * social_facility -- Sean On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:39, John Smith wrote: > What was wrong with the suggestions made in the previous thread about > this same topic? > > http://lists.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] Re: social facility

... i should have said 'adding helper tags to further define a map feature' instead of 'tag redirects' :) oops. On 9/8/10, Sean Horgan wrote: > Are you talking about this: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sheltered_Housing? > > Also, on the amenity wiki under Entertainment,

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] Re: social facility

What was wrong with the suggestions made in the previous thread about this same topic? http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-September/004278.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] Re: social facility

Are you talking about this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sheltered_Housing? Also, on the amenity wiki under Entertainment, Arts & Culture there is a link to a social_centre: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dsocial_centre&action=edit&redlink=1

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] Re: social facility

hi, I have 'amenity=sheltered_housing' which can be translated to amenity=social social=sheltered_housing then setup a re-direct of amenity=homeless_shelter to the above 2 tags as a pop-up 'did you mean ?' this way, its generic enough that other features can be put into 'social', and can st

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:34 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > in the railway context you can often find I-beams, but I'm not sure if > they used for other power lines as well: > http://www.dart.org/images/newsroom/preview/lrtwestofbaylor.jpg Looks like a special case of a monopole (which can also

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

2010/9/8 Nathan Edgars II : > Perhaps we can just specify that these should be tagged power=pole > pole=narrow_base_lattice? +1 I'd say that's a good compromise for those who want to be precise (even though it is semantically wrong). It is similar to the tunnel=xy solution, where xy is technicall

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

2010/9/8 Nathan Edgars II : > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >> When I get a chance I'm going to compile a table of all the different >> types I can find. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NE2/power > Does anyone have a type that is not similar to any of these?

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:34 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 9 September 2010 03:19, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NE2/power >> Does anyone have a type that is not similar to any of these? > > Alan posted this one: > >> tower_type=dipole : >> http://sites.google.co

Re: [Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] Re: social facility

Jan, Great to hear from you. This is my first time through the process as well. I spent some time going through the wiki to learn more about proposals and a key part is mailing a Request for Comments (RFC) to the OSM tagging mailing list: tagg...@openstreetmap.org. I've cc'd them on this email

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

On 9 September 2010 03:19, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NE2/power > Does anyone have a type that is not similar to any of these? Alan posted this one: > tower_type=dipole : > http://sites.google.com/site/am909geo/osm-1/power_dipole.jpg Two solid > metal/con

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > When I get a chance I'm going to compile a table of all the different > types I can find. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NE2/power Does anyone have a type that is not similar to any of these?

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

I know the definition of pole is "solid cylindrical object" but if you look at the examples of poles on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole) lots of them aren't solid. Why not just stick with pole and tower? Mast, while it might be used for poles/towers, is usually used in the context of

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/9/8 Nathan Edgars II : >> Another complication: all examples but one on >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dpole are metal with >> trusses. > > > It's a pity. What do the English natives say, is mast a good word? > Ac

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

2010/9/8 Nathan Edgars II : > Another complication: all examples but one on > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dpole are metal with > trusses. It's a pity. What do the English natives say, is mast a good word? Actually I think that pole isn't because it is (language) implying a form

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

2010/9/8 John F. Eldredge : > One point of clarification: "mobile home", in US usage, refers to a > prefabricated structure that, while it can be towed by a large truck, is too > large to be towed by an ordinary car or most (perhaps all) pickup trucks.   > Many of them are mobile only during the

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

2010/9/8 Alan Mintz : > above. Seems like these should be drawn as residential buildings and then > add POIs for the shops. Of course that's a way to tag them (and it is already done widely in Europe), but when talking about typology they could merit their own type-tag. cheers, Martin _

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

One point of clarification: "mobile home", in US usage, refers to a prefabricated structure that, while it can be towed by a large truck, is too large to be towed by an ordinary car or most (perhaps all) pickup trucks. Many of them are mobile only during the initial installation, and never move

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

On 8 September 2010 08:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/9/8 Eric Jarvies : > > I've never seen a locksmith shoe repair store either :-) > > > there is a big franchise in Germany who offers exactly this: > http://www.misterminit.de/ > Which can be found in France too. In UK, I have seen simi

Re: [Tagging] power=tower or pole?

Another complication: all examples but one on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dpole are metal with trusses. These do seem to be more similar visually to the large circular poles than the more complicated towers, so I would support keeping these as poles. The major difference seems to

Re: [Tagging] Non proposed features

> But how do we deal with the map features list, should they be managed? > Managed by who? Managed by which guidelines? If map features were really to be mantained as an official list of OSM features, then they should be somehow enforced in applications. A sort of "OSM certification" for consumers

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

At 2010-09-08 05:14, Eric Jarvies wrote: or dwelling_type I chose housing because it is the commonly-used term to describe the business of building and selling residences. Also, it seems like a word more likely to be understood (not to mention pronounced :) ) by non-native English-speakers.

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

or dwelling_type On Sep 8, 2010, at 5:34 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: > I wrote: > >... > >type=site > >+ site=housing > >+ housing={house|apartment|condominium|mobile_home|public_housing} > ^^^ > This should be "housing_type", not "housing". > > -- > Alan Mintz > > >

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

I wrote: >... >type=site >+ site=housing >+ housing={house|apartment|condominium|mobile_home|public_housing} ^^^ This should be "housing_type", not "housing". -- Alan Mintz ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openst

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

On 8 September 2010 11:33, André Riedel wrote: > But your proposal is not a small change of the whole power=generator > system. A change of tagging for example a tidal power plant shoud not > be done every month. So it would be great if you can stop your > fighting to push the proposal through th

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

At 2010-09-08 02:13, =?UTF-8?Q?M=E2=88=A1rtin_Koppenhoefer?= wrote: ... mobile home probably is, but I don't know what sense there is to tag it, as it has no "place" (it is mobile). I'm not talking about RVs/trailers/campers - I'm talking about housing that is built in 2 or 3 pieces, trucked t

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

At 2010-09-08 01:37, Erik Johansson wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: > At 2010-09-04 09:12, Erik Johansson wrote: >> >> I would like to tag areas with apartment buildings, and small houses >> for a single family differently, at the moment I tag all of them with >> land

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010/9/8 Tom Chance : >> But all these values of 'generator:method' works only very well for >> these combustion or fission generators. :-( All water based generators >> include their method in its 'generator:source'. > > They aren't included in the generator:source. I have considered them to be >

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

On 8 September 2010 18:17, Alex S. wrote: > A locksmith can and will customize off-the-shelf locks to fit a particular > purpose. > > One example - master-keyed locks. Each pin-and-tumbler lock needs the > single-shear pins removed and replaced with the appropriate double-shear > pins. > > Anothe

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010/9/8 Richard Mann : > Please: someone write a bot to add landmark=probably to every tree in > Germany, -1, please just for the Nürnberg area. and stop this debate. If it's a landmark, then it's worth > adding a tag to say so. +1 cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

Please: someone write a bot to add landmark=probably to every tree in Germany, and stop this debate. If it's a landmark, then it's worth adding a tag to say so. Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Please, this stuff belongs on tagg...@. (and of course I should have made clear that the message was primarily intended for talk@, sent to tagging@ for information really and to reassure all the lovely people who do already post here :) ) cheers Richard -- View this m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

Peter Körner wrote: > after two weeks without contradictions, I'll open up voting for > the Craft proposal: > Please, this stuff belongs on tagg...@. If there is a tagging suggestion that you really really feel that talk@ HAS to kno

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

2010/9/8 Erik Johansson : > But wikipedia is very vague on this subject so I think it's pretty > hard to be able to get good terminology. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_building_types#Residential_Buildings > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_tenure have a look here: http://en.wikipe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

On 8 September 2010 09:34, André Riedel wrote: > 2010/9/6 Tom Chance : > > If you can do so without requiring that mappers happy with > > generator:method=gasification be forced to instead enter a more > complicated > > mixture of tags to describe those precise processes, then I wouldn't > argue

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: > At 2010-09-04 09:12, Erik Johansson wrote: >> >> I would like to tag areas with apartment buildings, and small houses >> for a  single family differently, at the moment I tag all of them with >>  landuse=residential. I need good terminology in e

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

On 08.09.10 09:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > there is a big franchise in Germany who offers exactly this: > http://www.misterminit.de/ In Austria they even offer ink cartridge refill ;) Happy tagging /al ___ Tagging ma

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010/9/6 Tom Chance : > If you can do so without requiring that mappers happy with > generator:method=gasification be forced to instead enter a more complicated > mixture of tags to describe those precise processes, then I wouldn't argue > against your proposal. It wouldn't interest me, but it also

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

interesting... On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:56 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/9/8 Eric Jarvies : >> I've never seen a locksmith shoe repair store either :-) > > > there is a big franchise in Germany who offers exactly this: > http://www.misterminit.de/ > > cheers, > Martin > > _

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

John Smith wrote: On 8 September 2010 05:03, Peter Körner wrote: Looking at the tag definition, it would be a craft because it's creating custom-made things. How many lock smiths actually make something? The ones here sell and install alarm/security systems, cut keys etc... They don't make the

Re: [Tagging] landuse=single family houses/apartments

2010/9/8 Alan Mintz : > At 2010-09-07 20:28, John F. Eldredge wrote: >> >> Other arrangements are common as well, such as duplexes (buildings holding >> two households); the same property owner owns both halves of the building, >> and the land underneath both; he or she may live in one half and ren

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: craft=fashion should be fashion_designer to correpond to the translation, but still this is not a craft. I would put it in office. *I* am a craft=fashion, and *not* a fashion_designer. Specifically: custom embroidery, heat-applied vinyl, direct-to-garment & screen p

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010/9/8 Eric Jarvies : > I've never seen a locksmith shoe repair store either :-) there is a big franchise in Germany who offers exactly this: http://www.misterminit.de/ cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.o

Re: [Tagging] Non proposed features

Nice aspects Pieren, I agree your point of view concerning votes and how decissions were taken by (a smal part of) the community. Ok so your idea seem to be very familar to this idea 'garage'/incubator with the aim to discuss an feature idea more to vote on it? Yes voting is not represantat