Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/8 Tom Chance : > On 8 November 2010 13:14, Richard Welty wrote: >> >> a gallery doesn't have to be a building by it self, it doesn't have >> to be focused on selling (a false distinction in my book), it can >> be 2 or 3 walls in a library > > For the moment Martin's proposal doesn't offer

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 13:14, Richard Welty wrote: > a gallery doesn't have to be a building by it self, it doesn't have > to be focused on selling (a false distinction in my book), it can > be 2 or 3 walls in a library > For the moment Martin's proposal doesn't offer anything for those cases. As wi

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 11:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/11/8 Tom Chance : > > culture=art_gallery: a place where the primary purpose is the temporary > > exhibition of art works for artistic appreciation > > _and_ who nevertheless sell art? saatchi for instance I'm not sure if > the do it "pr

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/8/10 6:41 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/11/8 Tom Chance: culture=art_gallery: a place where the primary purpose is the temporary exhibition of art works for artistic appreciation _and_ who nevertheless sell art? saatchi for instance I'm not sure if the do it "principally for artis

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/8 Tom Chance : > On 8 November 2010 10:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > We are on thin ice in every distinction in the culture category, frankly. As > I wrote earlier, thousands of years of debate and linguistic ambiguity can't > be condensed into a completely clear tagging schema. ag

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 10:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I agree that places whose primary purpose is to sell prints, paintings by > > local artists and framing services should be marked as shop=art. > > Thin ice IMHO. You are saying that original art by "local artists" is > on the same level then

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/8 Tom Chance : > I can accept that MOMA in New York, the National Gallery in London, the > Reina Sofia in Madrid and the Louvre in Paris might be considered museums > with permanent exhibitions of art. fine, then we agree, I didn't have this impression so far. > I agree that places whos

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:33:32 Tom Chance escribió: > On 8 November 2010 10:25, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > > On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:09:03 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió: > > > yes, we already have a shop value for art galleries that generally > > > > > > sell the exposed works, bu

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 10:25, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:09:03 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió: > > yes, we already have a shop value for art galleries that generally > > sell the exposed works, but Tom was saying that we should distinguish > > between museums that exp

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:09:03 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió: > 2010/11/8 Noel David Torres Taño : > > "culture=museum" is "every building or intitution that names itself as". > > > > Art galleries are not museums, they are shops. If an institution SELLS > > art works, it has to expose them in

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/8 Noel David Torres Taño : > "culture=museum" is "every building or intitution that names itself as". > > Art galleries are not museums, they are shops. If an institution SELLS art > works, it has to expose them in order for potential buyers to see, so it is > shop=something. yes, we al

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-11-08 Thread Colin Smale
From the "better late than never" department: I just discovered a description of how Inrix work with speeds to assist with predicted journey times. Inrix are a leading supplier of this kind of information to organisations such as ITIS (in the UK) and TomTom, so I think they have probably tho

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 08:35, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > Art galleries are not museums, they are shops. If an institution SELLS art > works, it has to expose them in order for potential buyers to see, so it is > shop=something. If it does NOT SELL, it is culture=museum (even if it sells > reprodu

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 08:24, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Well, what is your definition of museum? I don't have to follow > slavishly wikipedia but I took this as a first indication. > > This reminds me of turning to the dictionary for a definition of "democracy" when debating political philosophy. T

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:33:39 +0100 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > lists of things in towns > > > don't understand this. Do you propose a new key "town"? absolutely not but a useful list of what someone might find in a town public buildings toilets parks bbq playground residential areas school

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 08:20:06 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió: > 2010/11/8 Noel David Torres Taño : > > I think we can simply say that "culture=museum" is for "every building or > > intitution that names itself as", and let it have other key, > > subordinated, like museum=art, museum=history, mu

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/8 Elizabeth Dodd : > so that whether it's a shop, an amenity, a landuse > a 'something' can appear in more than one list +1 > lists of things in buildings a building=xy (typology) tag is not substituting a amenity/culture/etc. tag that describes a service or function. I think that it

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/8 Rodolphe Quiedeville : > recently proposition tourism=gallery . A gallery is not an amenitfy > dedicated to tourist, I'll naturally tag culture=gallery instead. yes, but better tag art_gallery because it is more explicit. Gallery has lots of meanings. Cheers, Martin _

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Rodolphe Quiedeville
Le 07/11/2010 13:24, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > I would like to invite you to take part in the discussion for a new > key "culture". > The first draft is here: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/culture > > the discussion should mainly take place on the mailing list IMH

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/7 Tom Chance : > On 7 November 2010 18:34, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > Ah, Wikipedia, that well known internationally agreed source of definitions > for words ;-) I forgot that we need to slavishly follow anything we spot in > Wikipedia or that other well-worn blind alley one's online d

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new "main" key culture

2010-11-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/8 Noel David Torres Taño : > I think we can simply say that "culture=museum" is for "every building or > intitution that names itself as", and let it have other key, subordinated, > like museum=art, museum=history, museum=technology, museum=anthropology, > museum=natural_history, museum=sci