Re: [Tagging] Overhead signs (Überkopfwegweiser)

2015-01-20 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! 2015-01-16 10:19 GMT+01:00 Andreas Labres l...@lab.at: heading Brno: +---+ | Brno,... [A23]| |^^ ^ / | ||| |// | +---+ It might be quite hard for the consumer to

Re: [Tagging] Motorroad does not apply to all lanes

2015-01-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
*I looked carefully at the situation of that road bridge in Bremen, and to me it looks clear that the stretch on the bridge cannot legally be a motorroad. When you enter from the west on the on-ramp I bet you do not find any sign telling you that you are entering a motorraod. The motorroad starts

Re: [Tagging] Motorroad does not apply to all lanes

2015-01-20 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-01-20 9:06 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: So the correct mapping is that yo remove put motorroad=no on the short stretch on the bridge. yo remove put - you put ;-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk=* or footway=*

2015-01-20 Thread Hubert
Thanks for the quick response. Sadly the discussion page wasn't much help. But I think I found the right thread on the mailing list (though I haven't read it yet): https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2011-March/007023.html Yours Hubert -Original Message- From: fly

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk=* or footway=* (Hubert)

2015-01-20 Thread Hubert
I just found the following Thread ion the GB mailing list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2012-August/013663.html (I haven’t read it yet.) Is that the one you where referring to? Thank You. Yours Hubert From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@atownsend.org.uk] Sent:

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk=* or footway=*

2015-01-20 Thread fly
Sorry, was talking about the RFC discussion on this list [6] but your link or better gmane.org [7] as threads are better listed is the starting point. The discussion at the same time about sidewalk as separate ways might be also interesting. cu fly [6]

Re: [Tagging] sidewalk=* or footway=* (Hubert)

2015-01-20 Thread SomeoneElse
On 20/01/2015 13:01, Hubert wrote: I just found the following Thread ion the GB mailing list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2012-August/013663.html (I haven’t read it yet.) Is that the one you where referring to? That's certainly one of them, yes. I have a vague

Re: [Tagging] Motorroad does not apply to all lanes

2015-01-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 20.01.2015 um 08:44 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: 2015-01-20 3:36 GMT+01:00 715371 osmu715...@gmx.de: motorroad:lanes=yes|yes|yes|no Seems absolutely fine to me. One alternative (for better compatibility) would be motorroad=yes + motorroad:lanes=yes|yes|yes|no .

Re: [Tagging] Motorroad does not apply to all lanes

2015-01-20 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-01-20 14:56 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 20.01.2015 um 08:44 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: 2015-01-20 3:36 GMT+01:00 715371 osmu715...@gmx.de: motorroad:lanes=yes|yes|yes|no Seems absolutely fine to me. One alternative (for better

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

2015-01-20 Thread Lukas Sommer
The flood prone areas are not designed to let you cross a river Yes. I think that is exactly the important point and a very good description/criterion. flood_prone=yes for things that are _not_ designed to be flooded. And waterway=*, ford=* … for things that _are_ designed/expected to be

Re: [Tagging] Ethnic shops

2015-01-20 Thread althio althio
like: amenity=hairdresser name=Scalp culture=punk ? Exactly, I provided other examples in my previous message such as culture=country, culture=grunge, culture=shinto. Using several keys ethnicity=* + nationality=* + subculture=* all together would be unambiguous but I think culture=* does a

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

2015-01-20 Thread Warin
On 21/01/2015 10:03 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:43:16 + From: Lukas Sommersommer...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] Basic philosophy of OSM tagging

2015-01-20 Thread althio althio
Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: What is the basic philosophy of OSM tagging at the top level? ... Is there an FAQ on this? Or has this never been documented I do not have a FAQ on philosophy, only this and that... A few entries about 'how to create/propose/use' tags:

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-20 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 19.01.2015 12:10, Richard Z. wrote: ##== Disadvantages of semicolon separated lists == ##* parsing of values is required sure parsing is required. How terribly difficult is it to split a string by ;? It's trivial. Xxzme is one of those mappers who try to design tagging rules

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-20 Thread Никита
Friedrich Volkmann Ad hominem. Wow. You are so low. , by making assumptions instead of asking those who know. This is called data analys. Statistics. Numbers. There nobody to ask if users prefer one method over another. The resulting tagging rules are actually a burden for both mappers and

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-20 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 21.01.2015 02:51, Никита wrote: payment=efectivo;visa;mastercard;american␣express payment=mastercard;visa;efectivo Now try to find *efectivo *with your regexes. With a perl regex: ^[^=]+=(.*;)?\s*efectivo\s*(;.*)?$ Usually you only have the value in your variable, so you only need:

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-20 Thread Никита
You don't know regexes and theory behind them. I don't care about your one-line perl hacks. You will never teach your ugly hacks to to OSM users. You are insane to write these things as argument for using ;. You will always fail when I add more data to database. There always pattern that will

Re: [Tagging] Basic philosophy of OSM tagging

2015-01-20 Thread johnw
On Jan 16, 2015, at 6:22 AM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 18:07 +0100, Michał Brzozowski wrote: Some people in Poland (the ones who never browse community forums) maniacally tag every dirt road as highway=track, even if it should be

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-20 Thread Никита
E.g.? Well you actually smart person out there. Please query for features that support bitcoins or coins as currency http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=%22payment:coins%22=%22yes%22%20or%20%22payment:bitcoin%22=%22yes%22 Now try to query for only with bitcoin without litecoin tag: payment:bitcoint=*

Re: [Tagging] Basic philosophy of OSM tagging

2015-01-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:34 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote: As an easy (well, easier) fix - it might be a good idea for iD to show, color coded, what option is chosen for a road - white for paved, grey striped for gravel and friends, and brown for various ground / soil/ mud etc. it might

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

2015-01-20 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 19.01.2015 12:37, Markus Lindholm wrote: Treating addresses as attributes might be fast and convenient but that kind of scheme becomes incoherent as there is no one-to-one relationship between addresses and other features. E.g. - There are MULTIPLE POIs that all relate to ONE address -

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

2015-01-20 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 19.01.2015 12:47, Andrew Shadura wrote: It doesn't actually matter if you agree or not, because it doesn't change the fact that buildings in CZ and SK don't have multiple addresses. I cannot judge this. If this is a fact, addr2 is not needed or even plain wrong for conscription numbers in CZ

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-20 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 21.01.2015 03:59, Никита wrote: You don't know regexes and theory behind them. [...] There always pattern that will broke your regex. E.g.? You will never teach your ugly hacks to to OSM users. Probably because these are for developers, not for users. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann

Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality

2015-01-20 Thread Warin
On 20/01/2015 6:55 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:55:37 +0100 From: Volker Schmidtvosc...@gmail.com To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality Message-ID: