Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

2018-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
22. May 2018 23:03 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : > On 23/05/18 07:44, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours:sign%3Dno >> >> >>

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
23. May 2018 00:32 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > > > 2018-05-22 23:37 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > >: > >> >> Some street vendors appear in one place regularly, so it makes >> sense to map

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread José G Moya Y .
@Martin:I don't want to be a troll, but I feel there is some inconsistence between answers in this thread and answers in cycle:lanes last week. @javier, yopaseopor: I don't drive, but I think you can overtake a Guardia Civil car in two-way roads where there are one lane. The cycle:lane thread told

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

2018-05-22 Thread osm.tagging
> -Original Message- > From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 09:31 > >> Could not this information be included in the note tag? > > note is free text for mapper > > unsigned is also used by tools like http://qa.poole.ch/ > > I don't think any data consumer wil

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread osm.tagging
From: yo paseopor Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 04:11 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings oneway=no lanes=1 https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYQQwOGMPC6imwyGhMHMCg I would consider that wrong.

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-22 Thread Warin
On 23/05/18 10:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2018-05-22 23:37 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny >: Some street vendors appear in one place regularly, so it makes sense to map them as shops. But at the same time it makes sense to mark them specially,

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-05-22 23:37 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > Some street vendors appear in one place regularly, so it makes sense to > map them as shops. > > But at the same time it makes sense to > mark them specially, as it makes clear > that outside opening hours there may > be little to no evidence that o

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

2018-05-22 Thread Warin
On 23/05/18 09:18, marc marc wrote: Le 23. 05. 18 à 01:03, Warin a écrit : On 23/05/18 07:44, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours:sign%3Dno All comments are welcomed! the same as before :) unsigned key already exist and are in use by

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

2018-05-22 Thread marc marc
Le 23. 05. 18 à 01:03, Warin a écrit : > On 23/05/18 07:44, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours:sign%3Dno >> >> >> >> All comments are welcomed! the same as before :) unsigned key already exist and are in use by several app. what the a

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

2018-05-22 Thread Warin
On 23/05/18 07:44, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours:sign%3Dno All comments are welcomed! Could not this information be included in the note tag? The pages says this is a 'typical reason' .. that hints that there are other reasons ..

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

2018-05-22 Thread Warin
On 23/05/18 07:25, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 21. May 2018 22:34 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : Hi, Following from the discussion on "Seasonal, intermittent, and ephemeral water tags" I have created this proposal. Hopefully the definition is tight

[Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

2018-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours:sign%3Dno All comments are welcomed! ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.open

[Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Some street vendors appear in one place regularly, so it makes sense to map them as shops. But at the same time it makes sense to mark them specially, as it makes clearthat outside opening hours there maybe little to no evidence that one may buyanything there. I looked at taginfo and found nothi

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

2018-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
21. May 2018 22:34 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : > Hi, > > Following from the discussion on "Seasonal, intermittent, and ephemeral water > tags" I have created this proposal. > > > Hopefully the definition is tight enough that it excludes intermittent, > seasonal a

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, May 22, 2018, 11:29 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > 2018-05-22 17:18 GMT+02:00 Tod Fitch : > >> In reviewing the wiki in preparation to fixing some of my older mapping, >> it seems there is an inconsistency in how to tag a road that is wide enough >> to two lanes of traffic but is lackin

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I'm not completely sure of what you want tou express. When you say "a oneway one-wide-lane", I think you refers to a oneway=yes, lanes=1 (correct me if not). I'm referring to a two way road (oneway=no) with enough width for two approaching cars to pass each other without having to slow down or use

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread yo paseopor
Javier, I don't know if it has enough sense to use a new tag to tag something we have already tagged or not. But try it in Spain, overtake a Guardia Civil de tráfico car or motorbike in a oneway one-wide-lane and expect it ;) Salut i marques viales yopaseopor __

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
I agree with the solution mentioned by Thorsten. The keys oneway=no + [lanes=2] + division=no have much more sense to me than tagging lanes=1 + oneway=no for this kind of highway (just the same width that a two lanes way but without division). A proper value could serve to indicate also that the d

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-05-22 20:10 GMT+02:00 yo paseopor : > > Think about it : with more than one lane you can overtake legally. With > only one lane you cannot overtake in your same direction because you don't > have any lane to pass by. > Not sure about the jurisdiction you write about, but also this is perfec

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-05-22 18:33 GMT+02:00 yo paseopor : > One of the problems of driving in Rome is that people overtakes you in a > one-lane-street for every side they can turn it. If police would punished > them this problem will not exist as not exists in the other countries of > Europe. > in Germany this

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread yo paseopor
You have other tags to mark there is more than one direction: oneway=no I think it is important to keep the sense of the wiki, why? Because , with data you can "imagine" (or render) some kind of reality. It is not the same: 1 oneway=no lanes=1 https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYQQwOGMPC6imwyGhMH

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-05-22 18:33 GMT+02:00 yo paseopor : > I'm not agree with that , Martin > Road markings are real, touchable, checkable, objective...estimated width > and estimated lanes not. OSM data serves to a lot of apps with lane > indications, if we drop this then the apps will show erroneous information

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread osm.tagging
Personally, I tend to tag roads that are wide enough for 2 lanes (two cars can pass each other without noticeably slowing down) and which are clearly meant to be two lane (one lane each direction) roads with: lanes=2 divider=no Yes, I know that is in violation of the strict reading of the wiki,

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread yo paseopor
I'm not agree with that , Martin Road markings are real, touchable, checkable, objective...estimated width and estimated lanes not. OSM data serves to a lot of apps with lane indications, if we drop this then the apps will show erroneous information or less exact information. One of the problems

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-05-22 17:18 GMT+02:00 Tod Fitch : > In reviewing the wiki in preparation to fixing some of my older mapping, > it seems there is an inconsistency in how to tag a road that is wide enough > to two lanes of traffic but is lacking lane striping. > > In the lanes description [1] it says "the lane

[Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 Thread Tod Fitch
In reviewing the wiki in preparation to fixing some of my older mapping, it seems there is an inconsistency in how to tag a road that is wide enough to two lanes of traffic but is lacking lane striping. In the lanes description [1] it says "the lanes=* key should be used to specify the total nu

Re: [Tagging] Conflicting wiki docu for aerialway=goods and aerialway=station

2018-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-05-15 20:38 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > I agree. If there is general agreement, I would like to amend the wiki for > aerialway=station to state it is not for passenger transport only. > as the ultimate test for general agreement, I have changed the wiki now, to make the station page c