Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

On Thu, 24 May 2018 09:23:43 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Most websites have some copyright thing .. that makes some nervous. > I usually only tag things that interest me, and stuff I like to > support. In the United States, at least, opening hours are uncopyrightable. You can on

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

If I’ve understood it correctly, I would tag that as: seasonal=winter,spring,autumn ephemeral=summer From: Mateusz Konieczny Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:28 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Cc: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

22. May 2018 22:53 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : > Is that clear? Do how easiest that is - flowing during winter, spring, autumn - generally not flowing during summer but with possible ephemeral flows should be tagged?

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

23. May 2018 22:10 by graemefi...@gmail.com : > I've been wondering about this apparent dilemma & whether I've been doing the > wrong thing? Surveying allows me to verify whatever feature is present at all (in around 1/4 to 1/2 cases it is not), I can check l

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On 24/05/18 13:47, Tod Fitch wrote: On May 23, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Paul Johnson > wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Tod Fitch > wrote: On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>> wrote: In th

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

> On May 23, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Tod Fitch > wrote: > >> On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson > > wrote: >> >> In the case of your typical bog standard American residential s

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:31 PM, yo paseopor wrote: > Case B: some pics before > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=41.46210902249982&lng=12. > 874923250143638&z=17&pKey=ygjsHztch9KkrIILOPA3Jg&focus= > photo&x=0.4957587433175&y=0.4652742508751958&zoom=0.3348214285714282 > > lanes=1, impossib

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > In the case of your typical bog standard American residential street, I'm > strongly disinclined to agree that this is a two lane situation. I'd be > inclined to mark unpainted lanes in

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

Yep... a long bit of road Graeme .. does not really convey what is sought here - house at end of long road? Some from wikipedia ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Driveway,_Fosbury_House_-_geograph.org.uk_-_274950.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Llantysilio_Hall_(geograph_2366127).jpg

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:23 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/05/18 08:26, Paul Allen wrote: > > [Getting opening hours from websites] > > Most websites have some copyright thing .. that makes some nervous. > I usually only tag things that interest me, and stuff I like to support

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

I know it's not really what you were after, but you did ask! :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg30-LKCzgY https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Anna+Creek+SA+5723/@-29.3724521,130.8420885,6z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x6a83558ecda63c19:0xb9ea36b2cf0f9cb3!8m2!3d-28.7528625!4d136.2042088 https://en.wikipe

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

On 24/05/18 08:26, Paul Allen wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: If I drive / walk past & see Papa Luigi's Pizza Shop, with no other info visible, I go home, search for Papa Luigi's in this suburb, & get their websit

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > If I drive / walk past & see Papa Luigi's Pizza Shop, with no other info > visible, I go home, search for Papa Luigi's in this suburb, & get their > website, which gives you their phone number, opening hours, takeaway / > delivery et

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

I've been wondering about this apparent dilemma & whether I've been doing the wrong thing? If I drive / walk past & see Papa Luigi's Pizza Shop, with no other info visible, I go home, search for Papa Luigi's in this suburb, & get their website, which gives you their phone number, opening hours, ta

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

Has anybody got a good example ofphoto of a long driveway to add to wiki? 23. May 2018 14:51 by yve...@gmail.com : > I always found it strange to find a driveway over a few kilometers in a > mountainous area given the picture available in the wiki > > https://wiki.open

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

23. May 2018 11:16 by f...@zz.de : > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:12:42AM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> 23. May 2018 07:18 by >> f...@zz.de >> <>> >> mailto:f...@zz.de >> >: >> > > >> This applies to all road types (up to >>

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

Florian Lohoff writes: > I now see increasing usage of service roads as a category below > unclassified. People tagging "smaller roads" in the countryside > as a service roads. I think this is basically wrong tagging. > I find this a little disturbing and now got into an argument whereas > my

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

Also I add oneway=no Salut i marques vials yopaseopor On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > In the case of your typical bog standard American residential street, I'm > strongly disinclined to agree that this is a two lane s

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/6QXgHLK26FTMlmovwuaxfg -For these reasons it is important the local knowledge . Instead you can see in some parts of this street some road markings at the both sides I assure you only one car fits in the unique lane it has along the street. Try to pass two cars. It

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

Case B: some pics before https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=41.46210902249982&lng=12.874923250143638&z=17&pKey=ygjsHztch9KkrIILOPA3Jg&focus=photo&x=0.4957587433175&y=0.4652742508751958&zoom=0.3348214285714282 lanes=1, impossible to be estimated:lanes=2 , instead of some itallian driver would t

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

> On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > In the case of your typical bog standard American residential street, I'm > strongly disinclined to agree that this is a two lane situation. I'd be > inclined to mark unpainted lanes in the cases where channelization regularly > occurs

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

I would argue that as long as there is an access tagging scheme the road classes should have no implicit access values, regardless of class. As for driveways, in most cases the geometry makes tagging like destination quite pointless anyway, just like adding a no exit tag would be. From: Yves

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

I always found it strange to find a driveway over a few kilometers in a mountainous area given the picture available in the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service=driveway Yves Le 23 mai 2018 09:18:35 GMT+02:00, Florian Lohoff a écrit : > >Hi, > >in the past 10 years or so my imp

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

sent from a phone > On 23. May 2018, at 15:22, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > The question is is a highway=service without service=* a replacement > for an unclassified. no, it remains a service road. WRT to totals not matching partial numbers for service=* are you aware the service tag is also

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 03:09:14PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:28:43PM +1000, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it > > > is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads > > > classificat

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:28:43PM +1000, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it > > is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads > > classifications. It is a piece of tarmac built for a specific purpose by > > somebo

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

> in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads classifications. It is a piece of tarmac built for a specific purpose by somebody not necessarily the public authorities. The public most likely does not ha

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

El mié., 23 de mayo de 2018 9:28, Javier Sánchez Portero < javiers...@gmail.com> escribió: > > > Anyway, for your example of the LR-333 road, most of the time it isn't > enough wide for two cars to pass comfortably (see here > https://goo.gl/maps/6PC2Wfkfw7A2 like the van has to put the wheel in t

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

2018-05-23 13:16 GMT+02:00 Florian Lohoff : > When there is a sign "Private road" i wouldnt tag anything. Thats > just a liability issue. When there is "Access prohibited" or > something its probably okay with "access=private" if it is private property (referring to Germany) and has a fence it

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

2018-05-23 8:17 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > Good question. At least for me "entire shop structure gets regularly > removed", so > > permanent kiosk that is not a solid building would not be one, > > plaid/roof that gets removed would count as a street vendor. > I know some cases that for me

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:12:42AM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 23. May 2018 07:18 by f...@zz.de : > > > It is a piece of tarmac > > Service road may have any surface, > not only asphalt. Surface is indicated by > surface tag, not highway tag (except > > highway=motorway

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: My entire motivation for making this tag is to record this data > > in machine-readable form. I want to make my detector of things to survey > to stop suggesting opening hours that are not worth surveying. > My thoughts about this keep e

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

On 23/05/18 18:04, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 23. May 2018, at 09:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: - Is service a street category below unclassified/residential? - Does a service road typically have a right of way for the public? - Is service usage "just because there is only

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

2018-05-23 8:25 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > My entire motivation for making this tag is to record this data > > in machine-readable form. I want to make my detector of things to survey > to stop suggesting opening hours that are not worth surveying. > in absence of a sign you might ask the

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

23. May 2018 05:41 by osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au : > Instead of making that specific about opening_hours, I would suggest we > establish one of the following pattern: I prefer to keep my proposal focused just to one specific tag, but I wou

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-23 8:07 GMT+02:00 José G Moya Y. : > @Martin:I don't want to be a troll, but I feel there is some inconsistence > between answers in this thread and answers in cycle:lanes last week. > Here are mapillary images for the 2 examples I gave, Case A, for me lanes=2, unmarked: https://www.mapi

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

23. May 2018 07:15 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : > > On 23/05/18 16:25, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > >> >> >> >> 22. May 2018 23:03 by >> 61sundow...@gmail.com >> >> : >> >>

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

From: Javier Sánchez Portero Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:27 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings Anyway, for your example of the LR-333 road, most of the time it isn't enough wide for two cars to pass com

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

23. May 2018 07:18 by f...@zz.de : > It is a piece of tarmac Service road may have any surface, not only asphalt. Surface is indicated by surface tag, not highway tag (except highway=motorway that indicates high quality surface). In a given region some surfaces may

Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?

sent from a phone > On 23. May 2018, at 09:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > - Is service a street category below unclassified/residential? > - Does a service road typically have a right of way for the public? > - Is service usage "just because there is only one house/company/farm" > valid? in

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

Hi Jose The facts of be able (or not) to overtake and drive in the middle (as Paul says) are interesting but not necessary relevant for the discussion (IMO). Anyway, for your example of the LR-333 road, most of the time it isn't enough wide for two cars to pass comfortably (see here https://goo.g

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On 23 May 2018 at 08:07, José G Moya Y. wrote: > @Martin:I don't want to be a troll, but I feel there is some inconsistence > between answers in this thread and answers in cycle:lanes last week. Exactly. I too prefer to not dilute the current definition of the lanes key because it corresponds to

[Tagging] highway=service // public road?

Hi, in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads classifications. It is a piece of tarmac built for a specific purpose by somebody not necessarily the public authorities. The public most likely does no

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

On 23/05/18 16:25, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 22. May 2018 23:03 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : On 23/05/18 07:44, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours:sign%3Dno All comments are welcomed!