Re: [Tagging] Dangerous waterways tagging

2018-07-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 24 July 2018 at 06:48, François Lacombe wrote: > > Then what could be the best way to tag it? > No existing tag sounds suitable for this, even the idea of a single > "permanence" key. > I think intermittent would still be correct, because the water is only sometimes there? Saw reference to

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Jul 2018, at 17:08, Jmapb wrote: > > woke up to the conclusion that the attached/detached/semi-detached > distinction is not a great use of the building tag. As mentioned by André, we > can literally see on the map if these house footprints are attached via >

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 23. Jul 2018, at 17:07, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > How about building=residential to replace house/terrace/detached? > > > -1, there are several established tags for residential buildings in osm, >

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Jul 2018, at 17:07, Paul Allen wrote: > > How about building=residential to replace house/terrace/detached? -1, there are several established tags for residential buildings in osm, e.g. apartments, and as the example shows, it isn’t possible to reliably identify

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Jul 2018, at 17:02, Colin Smale wrote: > > The use of house=terrace may be justified for a transitional situation where > a whole terrace has been mapped as a single building and not yet split into > individual units. When it is split, it is just a house - the

[Tagging] Dangerous waterways tagging

2018-07-23 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, As the discussion about intermittent/seasonal/... on waterways goes on, there is another thing to map: how waterways banks can be dangerous due to sudden rise or lower water level. It is actually related to what we intend to map with intermittent or seasonal. For example in France, we often

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Jmapb
On 7/23/2018 11:02 AM, Colin Smale wrote: Let's stop conflating concepts and worrying about what things are "called", and describe indisputable characteristics of objects, in this case how many floors and how/whether the dwelling is connected to its neighbours. The use of house=terrace may

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Maybe in the UK with its tradition of terraced houses there could be a > cultural interest in something like terraced bungalows and there is also an > energetic advantage from reducing external walls, but overall there’s > little

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Colin Smale
Martin, you might not agree with some of the past architectural choices in the UK, but the point is that a "single-floor dwelling" (i.e. ground floor only) is a called a bungalow, and this can exist in many forms. It can be detached, terraced, end-of-terrace or semi-detached. The last two can be

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Jul 2018, at 14:13, Colin Smale wrote: > > The owner would say he lived in a bungalow. No stairs, ground floor only. > I don't think "terraced bungalow" exists as a phrase, but as a concept it > certainly does. it does not seem to be a very promising concept

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Colin Smale
The owner would say he lived in a bungalow. No stairs, ground floor only. I don't think "terraced bungalow" exists as a phrase, but as a concept it certainly does. On 23 July 2018 10:44:30 CEST, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >2018-07-23 6:17 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > >> >> In British English a

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:08 AM, Mike H <1jg...@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems that detached is supposed to be a more detailed value than house. > I went through as many house type values for building as I could find of > taginfo, and put them into a table quite a few of them look to be >

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-07-23 6:17 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > > In British English a bungalow is a single storey dwelling, I. E. It refers > to the vertical axis. Nothing is implied about its juxtaposition. There are > also terraced bungalows. are "terraced bungalows" really part of the natural language, or is

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-07-23 3:09 GMT+02:00 Jmapb : > > That's about the size of it. People will most likely continue tagging > freestanding houses as "house" because, hey, it's a house. Luckily, it's > not incorrect. I can imagine a theoretical mapper wanting to retag them as > "detached" instead, and I'd tell

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Jul 2018, at 01:27, André Pirard wrote: > > So, we have building=house and building=yes at least. > If we start using building=detached we no longer know if it's a house or a > plain building, do we? > So, detached is not a type of building but an attribute of it.