Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread David Dean
Thanks for the great feedback, everyone. Firstly, I don't want anyone to feel that just tagging highway=service is wrong, and you have to have a service tag. Any information available on the map is more useful than no information. I just want the ability to differentiate between 'we don't know

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Aug 2020, at 02:15, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The point is that a 'normally expected curb' may be a considerable obstacle > to a wheelchair person. And the purpose of this tagging is to indicate > wheelchair access difficulties. wheelchair users

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

2020-08-02 Thread Warin
On 2/8/20 5:41 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 2. Aug 2020, at 03:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Much easier to tag the numerical height of the curb as this avoids the confusion of words, particularly with different languages, cultures and climates. this

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Aug 2020, at 00:18, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> >> So what all these have in common is that they are not public roads not >> intended for through-traffic. They are all on private/public properties. >> So maybe they could be summarized under service=property, with

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 05:49, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > So what all these have in common is that they are not public roads not > intended for through-traffic. They are all on private/public properties. > So maybe they could be summarized under service=property, with a > description like "roads on

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread Tobias Zwick
>  - Roads through cemeteries >  - Roads through campgrounds >  - Roads through schools >  - Roads through universities >  - Roads through hotels >  - Roads through museums >  - Roads through prisons >  - Roads through military areas >  - Roads through airports >  - Roads through retirement homes

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - 3rd and 4th rail (Michael Reichert)

2020-08-02 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Garry, On 2020-06-13 18:49, Garry Keenor wrote: > Also, there are only 2 networks that I can identify worldwide that are 4th > rail, and I've tagged them both already. :-) You may have missed one I just discovered that the LIM lines of SkyTrain (Vancouver) have some kind of 4-rail

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 07:56, Alan Mackie wrote: > On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 20:21, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> > On 1. Aug 2020, at 17:20, Alan Mackie wrote: >> > I don't know how I'd map this. Do you have to pass through border >> > checkpoints when you enter or leave the area? >> >> around

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-02 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:42 PM Paul Norman via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Starting locally, the Fraser River has a strong tidal influence 25km > upstream of the coastline/riverbank edge. Fishers report a tidal > influence 90km upstream. Wikipedia says the Columbia has tidal

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 20:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 1. Aug 2020, at 17:20, Alan Mackie wrote: > > > > I don't know how I'd map this. Do you have to pass through border > checkpoints when you enter or leave the area? > > > around here, no, but neither are there border checkpoints at

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 02 August 2020, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > If you consider that incorrect you also have to ask yourself if you > > draw the same conclusion for natural=bay and natural=strait > > polygons: > > didn’t you argue some time ago that natural=bay should only be placed > as nodes

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread ael
On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 01:04:15AM -0400, Jmapb wrote: > On 8/1/2020 8:40 PM, David Dean wrote: > > I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging > > approaches of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can > > have a service=? associated tag. > > Hi David -- My

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 12:30, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > If you consider that incorrect you also have to ask yourself if you draw > the same conclusion for natural=bay and natural=strait polygons: didn’t you argue some time ago that natural=bay should only be placed as

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 02 August 2020, Paul Norman via Tagging wrote: > > I would consider an area mapped as water both with natural=coastline > and waterway=riverbank or natural=water in error. I haven't seen any > cases where this is done. It is long term established practice at the Elbe and Weser in

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-02 Thread Jan Michel
It started as my personal summary of tags, but in the meantime it looks like it got a rather comprehensive summary of current tagging practice. I don't really know where to start cleaning up the Wiki, because this also means to remove some of the existing pages and replace them. I'm happy if

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 11:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Sorry, means nothing, at least to me? it’s meant to be a coined word for an access road that leads to more access roads, that collects different or multiple kind of access roads, in short a more important access

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 18:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Proposal: service=access_collector > Sorry, means nothing, at least to me? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 10:19, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > wrote: > > service=parking seems like a good idea > to me too generic for me, also not suitable where the road is not just for the parking. Proposal: service=access_collector Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-02 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
Jan, I see you have done much work on this topic on your page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mueschel/DestinationTagging); why didn't you include these informations on the general Wiki pages instead of your user pages? Regards. -- Nouvelle adresse mail : penegal...@protonmail.com

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

2020-08-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
service=parking seems like a good idea to me 2 Aug 2020, 02:40 by dd...@ieee.org: > Hi everyone, > > I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging approaches of > the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can have a service=? > associated tag. Having done, so I'm

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 09:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Also, seriously, no offense to Croatia, the only place in the world not > hostile to Americans that US passports are still accepted. I don’t see it as hostility, it’s reasonable precautions, of temporary nature...

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

2020-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Aug 2020, at 03:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Much easier to tag the numerical height of the curb as this avoids the > confusion of words, particularly with different languages, cultures and > climates. this would require a lot of measurements,

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Aug 1, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Slightly OT question here, please. > > I remember reading a US press article ~12 months ago (may have even been > mentioned on here in discussions at the time re = aboriginal_land?) to the > effect that the US Supreme Court was

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Also, seriously, no offense to Croatia, the only place in the world not hostile to Americans that US passports are still accepted. We don't deserve that gesture, but I appreciate the self-sacrificing move if only to not make us follow entirely in North Korea's footsteps. On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
CW: Politics, rightfully being denied the world because where I live is an idiot. Clarification: I'm Cherokee, Choctaw and Scottish, and I'm barred from entering Choctaw and Scottish territory due to COVID19, and even without the pandemic, it's harder for me to travel now (seriously, violate

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:21 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > If you look at eastern Oklahoma, about 90%, Paul - correct me if I'm > wrong, is boundary=aboriginal_lands. Tulsa is pretty much completely inside > of two different reservations. > Three, actually. I live in the Muscogee Nation, now. Last

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley >> wrote: >> >>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active >>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge.