Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Aug 18, 2020, 07:09 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > > Data consumers see these hyphenated house numbers as one address, as well. > > Is that a problem? An address range can be considered a single address. > > > Create an address node for each housenumber and place each node somewhere > > on the

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Simon Poole
The correct ways to model a range of house numbers is to use an address interpolation or explicitly list the numbers (using comma or semi-colons as delimitiers), anything else is woefully underspecified, not to mention other issues, for example hyphens being used to delimit building and apartment/u

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 19:15, Simon Poole wrote: > The correct ways to model a range of house numbers is to use an address > interpolation or explicitly list the numbers (using comma or semi-colons as > delimitiers), anything else is woefully underspecified, not to mention > other issues, for exa

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 23:32, Paul White wrote: > I wanted to raise a concern about tagging house numbers on a building using a > hyphen to denote the address range (e.g 33-55 Main Street). Let's keep in mind there are also buildings in London and possibly elsewhere which have a _single_ entranc

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 18. Aug 2020, at 05:34, Paul White wrote: > > I wanted to raise a concern about tagging house numbers on a building using a > hyphen to denote the address range (e.g 33-55 Main Street). I am not sure for buildings, but for addresses I use this all the time, because t

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-18 Thread Steve Doerr
On 17/08/2020 15:02, Matthew Woehlke wrote: FWIW, I am also in favor of preferring explicit tagging; oneway={yes,no} says that someone paid enough attention to intentionally annotate the way thusly. An implicit tag is impossible to tell apart from an oversight. IMHO we should never, *ever* d

Re: [Tagging] oneway=yes on motorways

2020-08-18 Thread António Madeira via Tagging
I just want wikis to be in accordance between them. As they are now, the induce mappers with doubt. Mind you that "These ways should all point direction of travel and imply oneway=yes (like junction=roundabout), therefore the oneway tag is redundant and should be avoided." is not telling that it'

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-08-18 16:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > >> On 18. Aug 2020, at 05:34, Paul White wrote: >> >> I wanted to raise a concern about tagging house numbers on a building using >> a hyphen to denote the address range (e.g 33-55 Main Street). > It's their address, and I

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Clay Smalley
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:26 AM Colin Smale wrote: > There are two use cases here: one is "what is the address of this building > (or whatever)" and the other is the reverse situation: "where can I find > number XXX". As long as we have tagging that is potentially ambiguous we > won't be able to

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-08-18 20:55, Clay Smalley wrote: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:26 AM Colin Smale wrote: > >> There are two use cases here: one is "what is the address of this building >> (or whatever)" and the other is the reverse situation: "where can I find >> number XXX". As long as we have tagging

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-18 Thread wolle68
Dear list, Please comment on the following proposal: Funeral hall: a building for funeral ceremonies which may be religious or secular Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Funeral_hall Discussion page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_feature

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Clay Smalley
If you On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:51 PM Colin Smale wrote: > On 2020-08-18 20:55, Clay Smalley wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:26 AM Colin Smale > wrote: > >> There are two use cases here: one is "what is the address of this >> building (or whatever)" and the other is the reverse situatio

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-08-18 22:39, Clay Smalley wrote: > If you > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:51 PM Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2020-08-18 20:55, Clay Smalley wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:26 AM Colin Smale wrote: > There are two use cases here: one is "what is the address of this building > (o

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 05:51, Colin Smale wrote: > > > On the other hand using the "1-5" notation to indicate a range is pretty >> well understood in the UK at least. What it is missing is the >> "interpolation" value (even, odd, all). >> So let us sort this mess out by defining: >> 1) that a hyp

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-18 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
There is already an existing tag with similar meaning for funeral homes / funeral halls / funeral directors: shop=funeral_directors. The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000 times so it seems to be well established: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfuneral_d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 09:38, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > There is already an existing tag with similar meaning for funeral homes / > funeral halls / funeral directors: shop=funeral_directors. > The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000 times so > it seems to be well establ

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 04:26, Colin Smale wrote: > There are two use cases here: one is "what is the address of this building > (or whatever)" and the other is the reverse situation: "where can I find > number XXX". As long as we have tagging that is potentially ambiguous we > won't be able to co

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Aug 18, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > > > Maybe we should use a different character to indicate a range, such as a > slash? > In the United States it is not too uncommon for infill housing in urban areas to have fractional street numbers. So you can see addresses like “123 1/2

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Jonathon Rossi
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:28 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 05:51, Colin Smale wrote: > >> >> >> On the other hand using the "1-5" notation to indicate a range is pretty >>> well understood in the UK at least. What it is missing is the >>> "interpolation" value (even, odd,

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
18 Aug 2020, 23:29 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: > > On 2020-08-18 22:39, Clay Smalley wrote: > > >> If you >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:51 PM Colin Smale <>> colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>> > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 2020-08-18 20:55, Clay Smalley wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:26 AM C

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-18 Thread Peter Elderson
Two dots are used in some circles to indicate inclusive range. eg 21..27. Best, Peter Elderson Op wo 19 aug. 2020 om 00:25 schreef Tod Fitch : > > On Aug 18, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > > > Maybe we should use a different character to indicate a range, such as a > slash? > > > > In