[Tagging] Surface value for irregular, flat stones with variable gaps

2018-01-16 Thread Cez jod
"So it would be "jointed large rounded natural stones cut to a flat top"? Smoothness similar to setts, but appearance similar to cobblestones? Also, [1] describes some pavements as "Cobbles chosen for flat upper surface" which is possibly not the same as being cut, but possibly what is meant by

[Tagging] Surface value for irregular, flat stones with variable gaps

2018-01-16 Thread Cez jod
Hi. "I think this cobblestone:flattened can be a good value" In my opinion no. Because it does not create a regular shape in any way. surface=cobblestone/cobblestone:flattened was roads created from local rough stones(left by the glacier) stones are rounded by nature(smoothed by glaciers) just

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for portuguese pavement

2018-01-14 Thread Cez jod
Hi. I think that pawing stone will be ok. surface=paving_stone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeable_paving#/media/File: Santarem_carfree.JPG Regars Slavo ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
In many man_made=drinking_fountain there is a smoll button or a small piece of metal that opens the stream of water. Tap opened with a button, small piece of metal or even motion detector. In other points consent man_made=drinking_fountain it is only for drinking, small amounts of water. "I

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
I understand that tag amenity=drinking_water is a problem because it complicates basic tagging water sources. I understand that the amenity=water_point is repair method has appeared. Why not try to fix basic tagging. Current tagging goes into atomization, fragmentation. Maybe in 10 years we will

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
"I don't know if this is a language issue or some peculiarity of labelling in your country" I understand that you suggest a change amenity=drinking_water to amenity=water_point I am very much in charge. In OSM, we map usage the first tag in your country(not only yours) was amenity=drinking_water

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
Everyone is focused on amenity=drinking water. I have a question for the source tag amenity=water_point, waterway=water_point (waterway=fuel maybe also should be?) Is all confusion about amenity=drinking_water and amenity=water_point related to the grammar of english language? Regards Slavo

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
"Note that "potable" doesn't mean drinking water, it means any liquid that can be (reasonably) safely ingested, such as orange juice or beer." That's right, but here we are talk about water, not all other substances that contain it. Small beer has not killed anyone yet(it is harmful after several

[Tagging] (no subject)

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
"man made=drinking_fountain must have information if human can use this water intake for health and legal reasons." Upss. I mean amenity=fountain not man made=drinking_fountain Regards Slavo ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
"Amenity= drinking_water is non specific. It does not tell me if I can drink directly from it (I can from a man_made=drinking_fountain), fill a water bottle without trouble (I can from a man_made=tag, drinking_water=yes), fill a caravan water tank (I and from a amenity=water_point) .. etc etc.

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
"The man_made=tap,drinking_fountain, well stand by themselves. They do not need amenity=drinking_water, and suggesting that amenity=drinking_water should be included with them is wrong. Rendering of these man_made tags is a separate issue and should not determine the tags used." You've been

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
Otherwise. If the amenity=dringing_water tag is not suitable (the end user can not see the code), it may be worth considering a global change to amenity=water_point. If amenity=water_point is not suitable should be deprecated. For me it does not matter if there is amenity=drinking_water or

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
It should be Someone can explain the reason for imports amenity=water_point https://postimg.org/image/48ok5saed/ for example an increase in the amount of the tag amenity=drinking_water https://postimg.org/image/f3607hgl1/ you can see big differences http://taghistory.raifer.tech/. Regards Slavo

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-12 Thread Cez jod
Hi! "amenity=drinking_water works for me" it's ok for me too amenity=drinking_water it is a very good, universal, proven and needed tag. I wondered if it was possible to determine the quality of the water more accurately. It looks like with drinking_water=yes/no/boil/ ... is an indispensable tag,

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-11 Thread Cez jod
I noticed that tagging without drinking_water=no/yes can have one weakness if the water is contaminated permanently with metal salts of heavy metals and other chemical compounds poisonous. Maybe can solve this problem using hazard=* e.g.? natural=spring / amenity=drinking_water

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-11 Thread Cez jod
"Do you think I should explicitly mark as "drinking_water=no" the streams, springs and pits known to be poisonous? They use to have a sign telling it." We are talking here about official public water collection points. In rivers and streams, the quality of water often changes a lot(from hour to

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-11 Thread Cez jod
"Do you think I should explicitly mark as "drinking_water=no" the streams, springs and pits known to be poisonous? They use to have a sign telling it." drinking_water=no/yes there are misleading and should not be used in my opinion. you have tags like: drinking_water:legal=yes

[Tagging] (no subject)

2018-01-11 Thread Cez jod
"Do you think I should explicitly mark as "drinking_water=no" the streams, springs and pits known to be poisonous? They use to have a sign telling it." drinking_water=no/yes there are misleading and should not be used in my opinion. you have tags like: drinking_water:legal=yes

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-11 Thread Cez jod
"AFAIK it should be used for small installations that offer drinking water, like the one in https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/LScjKmwn0QPn5JQ-ROPgdw;

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-11 Thread Cez jod
Should be. There no exist non-drinking water:) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-11 Thread Cez jod
" I wonder why you think that amenity=drinking_water is used to map non-drinking water. " Hi Marc! Thank you for the right note. Shah and mat:) You're right here I made a big mistake. I was slightly misled by the definition on the wiki drink_water=yes/no in fact it does not exist. There is no

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-10 Thread Cez jod
Hy! "On the hiking trails in my part of the world, the volunteers have constructed a number of piped springs. A typical one looks like https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/6936811420 " Such a place as in the picture can be tagged fast as natural=spring(if it occurs alone). After deep reflection

[Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2018-01-10 Thread Cez jod
In my area where I usually maping, there are no public sources of drinking water where the water is not suitable for drinking or I do not know that. I Think for sure this tag is extremely important in countries, areas with more difficult access to clean water. Maybe as I will be more often in such

[Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2018-01-10 Thread Cez jod
Hi! I just want to point out that the tag drink water=yes/no is regulated by top-down rules. I have no doubts here. Certainly in all civilized countries. Personally, I does not add information whether the water is drinking or not it has to be assessed on the spot by the end user of the map. I

[Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2018-01-10 Thread Cez jod
Hi! "In French for example "potable" means "drinkable (without problems)"" Always in different languages will be different meaning hence the problem with tagging. "Which law is that? And in which language? " How do you know that drinking water flows from your tap? The question is for e.g WHO

[Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2018-01-10 Thread Cez jod
Potable and drinking_water are not equal. drinking_water=yes means I can drink water straight from the source (tap, fountain, source) the water has been laboratory tested, so I know I can drink it without boiling. Potable=yes/no means that water in any case should be boiled before consumption

[Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-09 Thread Cez jod
Hallo. There is no life without water. I think that amenity=drinking-water is the most-valuable tag that we deal with. It was created and comes to the map in a natural way which can be seen in http://taghistory.raifer.tech/ (drinking_water is the opposite of waste water). Where can we get the