Re: [Tagging] inconsistencies in bridge

On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:39:53 +0200 Lennard wrote: > That's one thing I've never really understood with railway=abandoned > either. Sure, many of them have been converted into might fine > cycleways, but that's just what they are now: cycleways. You can abandon a railway and still have a someth

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Homeless Shelter

On Sat, 4 Sep 2010, Sean Horgan wrote: > Thanks for the reply John. > > I found this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Shelter, > but this seems specific to recreation. > > You could place a tag on the homeless_shelter to cover the demographic > served, i.e. women, children, e

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > yes, you can see that arthur st/wastell ct. in the east has an > informal footway (the one of the link I modified from yours), in the > west it hasn't. You can also see it on the nearmap aerial (even though > it is a bit hard to see it because it "h

Re: [Tagging] No proposal labeling

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Matthias Meißer wrote: > Sry I don't understand your point. If you limit a sports shop saying > sports=football it is clear that he spots on football related things > only, right? well that would be four different sports covered immediately in Australia

Re: [Tagging] Non Proposed Features

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: > > (b) it's a stagnant channel with no real flow, > > A stagnant channel is a strange thing, almost imossible. If its really > stagnant it's a natural=water or landuser=eservoir. > Else if it's a waterway it has a flow... Common situation here on

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Anthony wrote: > Grass is a legitimate surface for a footway. That doesn't mean that > all grass is part of a footway, any more than all asphalt is part of a > road. This is very cultural. Au city situation The part of the Road Reserve which is between the property boundary o

Re: [Tagging] ele-key for lakes / water bodies and glaciers

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > but is the bottom of such lakes a flat surface with a constant > elevation? if it isn't, such a value wouldn't be meaningful as well on some it is eg Lake Cargelligo is almost flat at the bottom - I've seen it empty and others are obviously not _

Re: [Tagging] ele-key for lakes / water bodies and glaciers

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > on the way that marks the boundary of lakes etc. I would expect the > ele key to tag the average height of the water surface, since that is > what is constant on the whole lake I live in a land of drought and flooding rains (apologies to the poet). S

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Peter Körner wrote: > Am 24.08.2010 10:43, schrieb Élisée Reclus: > > Am 24.08.2010 10:08, schrieb Peter Körner: > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft > > > > Are artists, computer

Re: [Tagging] Mapnik reender

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, just.st...@lesve.org wrote: > Claudius Henrichs wrote, On 2010-08-22 18:31: > > Am 22.08.2010 16:20, LeSve: > >> How should I map a statue (Monument) so the reendering will se it. > >> Specially in mapnik version. > >> > >> Maybe it is not possible ? > >> > >> /LeSve > > >

Re: [Tagging] Another classification needed for minor urban/suburban collectors?

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > > You will find residential roads in > > residental, commercial or industrial areas. > > This seems very wrong to me. Can I get input from others? you may. The categories have strange names and are used differently in different jurisdictions so I map

Re: [Tagging] Permanent open air stage

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > I'm tagging my hometown and saw that Map features doesn't have any tag > to mark open air stages. I know lot of open air stages are one time > effort (for example, festivals), but there are lot of permanent ones > (made of stone, wood, etc.), especial

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Energy generator power types

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, André Riedel wrote: > Please do not mix the "power"-tag for generating electricity with > other sources of energy like steam, vacuum, heat and so on. could you please explain what the problem will be if this tag "power" is extended as proposed? __

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Energy generator power types

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Tom Chance wrote: > > I note that too many tags are one-offs with no consideration of where > > they fit > > in an organised set of tags. > > I've no idea what you mean. Could you explain? Example "I need a tag for this item I'm standing next to. I'll call it amenity="

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Energy generator power types

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Tom Chance wrote: > Just to help summarise, with these proposals we end up with: > > power=generator (the starting point) > > power_rating (to specify the watts generated) > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power_rating > > power_source (to specify the fuel type / ener

Re: [Tagging] Non Proposed Features

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Cartinus wrote: > Concluding less than six hours after your initial post to this mailinglist > that nobody has a problem with what you propose is: youthfull exuberance ? > impatience ? It is certainly is not the way to go. 6 hours isn't one rotation of the earth, and certainl

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "natural" borders

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Erik G. Burrows wrote: > "Australian solution"? I'd like to think we're not applying different > mapping rules to different countries! We are, whether it is a good thing or not. Go back to how we define a cycleway (German vs English) ___

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "natural" borders

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Erik G. Burrows wrote: > I have several cases where a border polygon (national park, wilderness, > etc.) is defined based on a natural feature, such as a > stream/crestline/etc. > > What is the preferred way to handle this dual-purpose way? > > Splitting the border way, creat

Re: [Tagging] Mapping autonomous regions

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote: > We need to come up with a better way to map and tag autonomous regions, > particularly in North America. The talk page for the boundary= suggests > that an administrative boundary is not the right tag; and I couldn't > disagree more. > > As a Cherokee, I

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: > Wish there was an agriculture=* tag. Life could be simple: well living in an agricultural area I'd start with agriculture= rice wheat hops barley canola (modified rape seed > CAnadaOiLa) grapes (subtypes table/wine or variety) citrus (subtypes needed)

Re: [Tagging] Living streets in the United States

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Pieren wrote: > > > From the wiki it looks like something smaller or more restricted than a > > > regular residential street, but bigger than a driveway. > > It's not smaller, physically it's a residential street that is transformed > to a living street. The difference is the v

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote: > Why would this matter? I don't know > Are there actually places where it's legal to > operate off the hard surface when the road is paved? Yes 25 years ago in outback Queensland the tightfisted government of the gerrymander king, Joh Bjelke-Peteresen, u

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:20:33 +0100, Richard Mann wrote: > > Most of these call themselves vineyards > > > > http://www.englishwineproducers.com/scvineyard.htm > > Do they actually have a vineyard on site? At least locally (US:OR), a > winery can't call i

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Liz wrote: > I can think of plenty and they are bicycle safe - even on the trunk road > with a limit of 110kmh > but they are not high traffic roads, crossing roads are few > > http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=3182 > > That's on the Cobb

Re: [Tagging] Shoulder and traffic indicator tags

On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Anthony wrote: > > Is a 90km/h primary road safe bikeable? > > I know people who would be willing to ride a bicycle on a 55 mph > primary road with no shoulder and one lane in each direction (not that > I can think of such a road, other than maybe a few short bridges). > Add in

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 2 August 2010 19:39, Dave F. wrote: > > This has nothing to do with weather conditions, but a stupid driver > > ignoring signed warnings. So why can't the mapping system record that this warning is going to exist in wet conditions? Road closed signs are

[Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

Before this list existed, the need for a dry_weather_only tag was disputed on talk. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/02/2970371.htm ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Dave F. wrote: > > Actually it does, it splits things away from let's dump everything in > > the amenity key space... > > There's nothing wrong with that. > It doesn't cause a problem. I guess you have never tried to find a tag description on the wiki then. You will just have

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Dave F. wrote: > In an emergency you don't give damn where that building is, just how > quickly the ambulance can get to you. > Emergency should be used for items that you need to find in an emergency. sorry, mate I don't agree I do need to know where that building is, and th

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] emergency=*

On Sat, 31 Jul 2010, Chris Hill wrote: > This includes private or charity stations which are not emergency stations. Chris, would you be able to tell me (us) what is a private station or a charity station? Despite my age and being initially at school in the UK, I don't know what they are. As JS

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] emergency=*

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Toby Murray wrote: > Then I guess a question would be would pharmacies be medical=pharmacy > or remain shop=pharmacy? When I visited Holland (probably before you lot were born) the pharmacy sold only pharmaceuticals. It would be a medical=pharmacy. In Australia the pharmaceut

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Tobias Knerr wrote: > There is no single appropriate categorization for all purposes. > Therefore, categorization of features is a renderer decision and > shouldn't be hardcoded into tagging. So I propose a new Key "thing" and we can put everything under "thing". Let's never w

Re: [Tagging] Bridges and layers

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Anthony wrote: > > That's not sufficient. You'd have to do some kind of heuristic test to > > see whether they were approximately parallel as well > > You said they were parallel. Twice in fact. but not all dual carriageways are parallel so the heuristics have to cover that

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Richard Mann wrote: > winery: no such word in en_gb, we just use vineyard for the whole > operation (though of course we don't do these things on the same scale > as Australia). Unless you're going to distinguish between shop=winery > and shop=vineyard, I'd use the more generic

Re: [Tagging] What do others call this?

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Richard Mann wrote: > Most vineyards have something similar, though not always so heavily > marketed, so I think you need to find a term that's more > international. Perhaps tourism=vineyard_shop or just shop=vineyard. It's not attached to the vineyard, it's attached to the *wi

[Tagging] What do others call this?

A winery which sells its own produce in its private shop, usually at the winery, and restricted to selling their own produce. We know what we call this is Australia, what do others call this? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http:/

Re: [Tagging] Zone 30 (maxspeed)

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 8 July 2010 21:31, fly wrote: > > I do not like the name conditions, by the way, because I think it does > > not cover the time aspect, but maybe that is just because I am not a > > native speaker. > > The name condition describes the type of restriction

Re: [Tagging] [education] tag insttitute

On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, pavithran wrote: > On 15 June 2010 07:09, John Smith > > > In fact I'd be tempted to call them a specialised college's and > > sub-tag from there. > > In India colleges are mostly (99 %) bound by academic regulation from > higher education boards/ universities . Guessing it w

Re: [Tagging] sport=rugby

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: > What context are you thinking of? Forgive my ignorance, but if tagging > leisure=pitch, don't the two codes use the same pitch? in rural au - no each code has its own grounds whether owned by a club or the council. perhaps in the cities where space is more

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, Jason Cunningham wrote: > And I'm about to edit it back to sport=association_football. > > The use of soccer should never have crept in to OSM. There are no rules on what creeps into OSM > I've made it clear > that I think the use of soccer will be very controversial in t

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Richard Welty wrote: > as a practical matter (mapping football fields), there are only two > relevant ones > in the North America: outdoor fields of 100 yards in length (US college > & pro > games, outdoors), and outdoor fields of 110 yards in length (Canadian). and > i see no

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Tsunami warning siren?

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Cartinus wrote: > On Monday 28 June 2010 03:43:28 John Smith wrote: > > emergency=siren ? > > Anybody else noticed that: > > is already in use as a vehicle type for access restrictions? > > So emergency=siren on a node means

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

On Sun, 27 Jun 2010, pavithran wrote: > Hi, > I was very much surprised that a football ( the ball kicked by foot) > which I tagged has shown a different ball in osmarendering . It is > showing a ball used by american football . > > Some of the IRC discussion I had said that its 'ambiguous' thoug

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, ael wrote: > > would be useful. When I have a moment, I will try and come up with > > something better than yard. > > A thesaurus didn't throw up anything compelling. Instead I became > convinced that the best subtag is actually "merchant". > > shop=merchant > merchant = ti

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Craig Wallace wrote: > Industrial supplies is a more generic term, which can include builder's > merchants, or timber yards, or agricultural supplies, or a variety of > other industries. > So a tag shop=industrial_supplies can cover all of these, plus an > appropriate sub-ta

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Claudius Henrichs wrote: > shop = supplies > supplies = timber/concrete/building/bricks/landscaping/electrical/plumbing/mechanical/agricultural/metal ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] What's the proper way to map multiple rail tracks in a street?

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.946466&lon=-75.124744&zoom=18&layers=B > 000FTF Cooper Street and Delaware Avenue are four-lane roads, with light > rail/tram tracks in the outer lanes. Obviously one could simply apply > railway=* to the highway, b

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Liz wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > > I think we would be better classifying things based on approximate air > > traffic per day, the number of run ways, and so no, alternatively we > > could just tag these things individually: >

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > I think we would be better classifying things based on approximate air > traffic per day, the number of run ways, and so no, alternatively we > could just tag these things individually: > > air_traffic=1000 > runways=10 as i recall, Cloncurry actually has 7

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: > Secondly...I really can't see how the presence or absence of bicycle > restrictions changes the status of the road at all. In my area, some > freeways allow bicycles, some don't. It would be completely incorrect > to presume that those that don't are "mor

Re: [Tagging] route=fitness_trail

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > Some of the fitness equipment areas also have sign boards indicating > how you can use them, playgrounds don't usually come with > instructions. Found one at Glenelg in an unmarked park http://osm.org/go/uFw6q9Jp6- which is new with outdoor versions of mod

Re: [Tagging] Cable distribution cabinet

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 15 June 2010 06:15, y...@o2.pl wrote: > > 2010/6/14 John Smith : > >> In a power station there could be lots of generators... > > > > Sure, but who knows where they are? ;) > > Inside the power station building? > I've been to see a couple in my lifet

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Base transceiver station

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > if you see it in its historical context, it does look much more like a > tower though: > http://www.checkpoint-bravo.de/grafik/ausstellung.jpg It isn't a tower, but it functioned as a watchtower So is a "tower" in OSM going to be the form, or the f

Re: [Tagging] Beauty parlour

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, pavithran wrote: > Hi , > I am looking for an appropriate tag for a place where women/girls go > to get some facial/hair/eyebrows done . They are called beauty > parlours . I could find something for hair dressers . > > But here I am looking for > * Beauty fixes > * sex=male/fe

Re: [Tagging] Beauty parlour

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Pieren wrote: > > Oops missed that tag . yeah boutique would be appropriate ( missed the > > tag because in Indian english we rarely hear the word 'boutique' ) > > It is a french word meaning ... 'shop'. > So, what is suggested is "shop=shop" as a french reader could interpret

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Base transceiver station

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/6/2 Roy Wallace : > > I'm not sure if I should start a new thread for this, but John: > > shouldn't the node's role be "tower", not "transponder"? > > i.e. the *relation* represents the transponder (hence > > type=transponder), but the *node* re

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Orphanage

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > You'd use the length of stay, temporary or permanent to differentiate > between them, although some could have facilities to handle both? no we have homes for children who are physically handicapped and live permanently in these facilities, about 5 or 6 kids

Re: [Tagging] New Keys?

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Do you suggest to add specific tags for factory "components" like > assembly lines, soldering facilities, bottling plants, ...? This will > become very extensive for all kind of factories that exist, but why > not? > Whatever is decided should be

Re: [Tagging] New Keys?

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Liz wrote: > > Option 1 > > Industrial=factory/workshop > > I don't like this key. To me, that reads "this feature is an > *industrial*, of type *factory*", or "the *industrial*

Re: [Tagging] New Keys?

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Pieren wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Liz wrote: > > Are you talking about a landuse area, a building polygon, a site relation ? > > Pieren not landuse really because that wouldn't need a new Key, landuse=industrial would be a simple thing -

[Tagging] New Keys?

I photograph and then tag as many things as possible when out mapping. Today I was looking at a "light industrial area" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_industry and there are no suitable tags for factories and workshops http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workshop

Re: [Tagging] religion

On Sat, 29 May 2010, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Liz wrote: > > No, a major belief system has subcategories. that's not a problem > > but I don't think that the items grouped as "pagan" are subcategories of > > a major belief

Re: [Tagging] religion

On Sat, 29 May 2010, Cartinus wrote: > By your reasoning we should not use religion=christian with denomination= > either, but put whatever is in denomination= into religion=. No, a major belief system has subcategories. that's not a problem but I don't think that the items grouped as "pagan" are

[Tagging] religion

just on a added tag for religion religion=pagan I would suggest that pagan is a term used by Christians for non-Christian non- Jewish and non-Islamic religions I would suggest that places of worship which are neither Christian nor Jewish nor Islamic should have their proper title and a person ma

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On Fri, 28 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 28 May 2010 21:43, Liz wrote: > > This points out a serious problem with the highway=services tag > > it is only one letter different from a very different tag. > > John Smith will shoot me down, but this could be an am

Re: [Tagging] highway=services

On Fri, 28 May 2010, Claudius Henrichs wrote: > Am 28.05.2010 03:05, John Smith: > > On 28 May 2010 09:58, Craig Wallace wrote: > >> Some of them are also mapped with a short way tagged as highway=service > >> (not highway=services !), to connect it to the main road. > > > > highway=service is al

[Tagging] highway=services

rest area has been redirected to highway=services with a note to a Wikipedia entry. The wikipedia entry is huge and after much scrolling down the page it becomes quite obvious that "Rest Area" has many meanings on highways worldwide. While highway=services is well explained, redirecting other phr

Re: [Tagging] wine roads in openstreetmap

On Sun, 23 May 2010, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > I see that there is a feature suggestion for adding wine roads on the map. > > How should that be done? Is tourism=wine_road ok? Should roads be > added into a new relation? > > I see only that Slovenians are talking about this, but still there

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

On Sat, 15 May 2010, Petr Morávek [Xificurk] wrote: > and the last, > most puzzling is landuse=basin "An area of water that drains into a > river."... > wow, there are some pretty huge ones of those like the Amazon basin the Lake Eyre basin the Mississipi basin the fill_in_any_large_river basin s

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

On Sat, 15 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > Market gardens grow vegtables in a small plot smaller than a farm, but > not always joined to a house. > farms differ in size - particularly between one part of Australia and another so just a "small" farm for market_garden size ___

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

On Sat, 15 May 2010, Chris Hill wrote: > No I didn't assume anything, except that what you have is land attached > to a house. That is a garden. Green or not, maintained or not. Decked, > paved or grassed, cultivated or not. A meadow is agricultural land. > still wrong, the area under discussio

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

On Sat, 15 May 2010, Chris Hill wrote: > You have animals grazing? Or perhaps you cut it for hay or silage? If > not then it's just an unkempt garden, just letting the grass grow > doesn't make it a meadow, except perhaps in pretentious gardening > programmes :) > I guess you assumed I lived in

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

On Sat, 15 May 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > what if someone decides not to cut his grass? It would IMHO still be a > garden. > My grass is rarely cut (climatic reasons) and we have left the main grassed area to become /meadow/. It's not a garden now in any English term, and is a /yard/.

Re: [Tagging] More tagging questions

On Sat, 8 May 2010, Craig Wallace wrote: > barrier=bus_trap > it's listed on the Key:barrier page, but without any description. Though > I assume its for something like a bus trap, as described on Wikipedia: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_trap > they could be sump_buster - depends what the b

Re: [Tagging] Scales / weigh stations

On Fri, 7 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 7 May 2010 15:54, Alan Mintz wrote: > > Periodically along US highways, there are giant scales for trucks to get > > a weight certificate to comply with various laws. How should these be > > tagged? How about: > > > > highway=motorway_link for the ramps l

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

On Fri, 7 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 7 May 2010 07:03, Richard Welty wrote: > > well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement > > that one tier of department > > store (walmart, kmart, target) is "discount" with respect to another > > (macys, pennys, nordstrom, > > e

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

On Thu, 6 May 2010, Richard Welty wrote: > On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate > > discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department > > stores and maybe others. > > usable with any shop= where appropriate?

Re: [Tagging] A shop selling fish and seafood

On Wed, 5 May 2010, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > To be consistent, your example above should really be: > > what is it... a shop > > what sort of shop... food shop... what sort of food... ready cooked food or food that still needs cooking/preparing ___

Re: [Tagging] Fast food vs. restaurant vs. cafe

On Mon, 3 May 2010, Greg Troxel wrote: > cafe - food is made to order, and while fast, it's real food. > > Basically my rules are: > snip so how would you classify the shop which sells magnificent hamburgers, ordered at the counter, cooked to order, no table service? but its also a newsagent

Re: [Tagging] Fast food vs. restaurant vs. cafe

On Mon, 3 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 3 May 2010 19:39, Katie Filbert wrote: > > To guide the fast food or restaurant question, I consider whether food is > > paid for prior to eating (e.g. at a counter) and whether or not > > disposable plates, utensils, etc. are used. This is often consist

Re: [Tagging] A shop selling fish and seafood

On Sat, 1 May 2010, Alan Mintz wrote: > >In the UK a "fish shop" can be one of two, usually mutually exclusive, > >things: > > > >* A fishmonger, selling wet (i.e. raw) fish and seafood > >* A Fish and Chip shop, selling cooked fast food > > > >So we'd need to distinguish between these in the UK at

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-newbies] compass rose or wind rose?

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Liz wrote: > On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Alan Mintz wrote: > > At 2010-04-28 12:40, Xan wrote: > > >How can i tag compass rose, like that > > >http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:RosaDeLosVientosTorreDeHercules.jpg > > > > > >or wi

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-newbies] compass rose or wind rose?

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Alan Mintz wrote: > At 2010-04-28 12:40, Xan wrote: > >How can i tag compass rose, like that > >http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:RosaDeLosVientosTorreDeHercules.jpg > > > >or wind rose? > > I like man_made=compass_rose . Based on the wikipedia article, it seems the > more

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Alexander Sidorov wrote: > Hello! > > I am writing an application that queries OSM buildings. Please tell me what > is the common way of tagging buildings. Do they usually have names (I'm > talking about usual buildings, not places of interest)? What does usually > name contai

Re: [Tagging] Ways that change names while crossing divided roadways

On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Tyler Gunn wrote: > As a result, going > south down the divided roadway, the Garmin picked up Crystal as the cross > street, when I think it probably should have picked up Sunset. > I have Garmin stuff that shows the street name on the opposite side to the road, so it seems t

Re: [Tagging] Oyster beds

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 23 April 2010 21:54, Liz wrote: > > and then they are called artificial reefs eg > > http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/22/2826761.htm > > I find it some what amusing that someone documented natural=reef and > then d

Re: [Tagging] Oyster beds

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote: > > reef suggests natural, and oyster beds suggest man_made > > Well that's wrong, since they keep sinking ships to make dive reefs. > and then they are called artificial reefs eg http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/22/2826761.htm __

Re: [Tagging] Oyster beds

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote: > Has anyone else tagged oyster beds? > > The only thing close on the wiki I can find is proposed reef: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reef > > Is this the most suitable scheme? > oyster beds suggests aquaculture aquaculture need

Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, antony.king wrote: > Hi all, > > re > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Playground_Equipment > > I'd like to get this proposal finalized fairly soon as it has been > open for a month now. There has been a lot of useful discussion > already which I have tak

Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, antony.king wrote: > On 20 April 2010 09:27, John Smith wrote: > > On 20 April 2010 18:18, antony.king wrote: > >> I'd like to get voting underway this weekend if possible, depending of > >> course on what issues are raised. > > > > Have you used this tagging scheme much to d

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Roy Wallace wrote: > The only alternative I see is landuse=beach, which I think would be > ok, if there were a clear distinction between this and natural=beach. > For a "beach" created by dumping a bunch of sand in the middle of a > city, to me, that's pretty clearly landuse=be

Re: [Tagging] Beaches

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote: > From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beach > > > "Beach areas should always meet with a natural=coastline way. Do not use > > this tag for patches of sand/gravel which are not by a coastline. Note > > that the natural=coastline should ideally be positione

Re: [Tagging] source:geolocation?

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:40 AM, John Smith wrote: > > Pick which ever has the most widespread use and document it. > > Hmm now that I check again, [1] lists a few hundred uses of > source:position, but only 2 uses of source:location. > > Better go with

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 22 February 2010 18:54, Liz wrote: > > I reckon "3 paces" would be more helpful than "narrow" > > Paces of a short or tall person? :) > well they could add in the notes that they are 170cm tall

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > If a user is bad at estimating widths I suggest that he measures the > exact width. Still "narrow" is not a good solution to the problem as > many posters have already written above. > I reckon "3 paces" would be more helpful than "narrow" Austral

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - shop=estate_agent

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, specimail-for...@yahoo.fr wrote: > Hi everyone ! > > There is a (not by me) proposed feature "shop=estate_agent": > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Estate_Agent > It is already used, as stated on wiki page. > > Thank you for voting. > Djam > > > Devil

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Cycleway conditions

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Kim Slotte wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Since the voting is a bit half-way I request your attention to get it > > finalized: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Cycleway_condition > > There seem to be 9 o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Narrow width

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: > If I form an opinion stating 2m is narrow and someone forms an opinion > stating 4m is narrow how is that helpful in the least? > Narrow on foot or narrow in a truck imply different widths. So I'm in favour of estimating a width for this purpose, and not "n

Re: [Tagging] ref tags and "reference routes"

On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Richard Welty wrote: > so should a reference route designation that isn't on a sign go in a ref > tag or not? the wiki doesn't > discuss this. if ref shouldn't have this, perhaps a variant on ref is > needed? > Those sort of 'internal reference numbers' are used heavily in Ne

Re: [Tagging] Offices/non-shop businesses

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Woll Newall wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions for tagging business that are not > shops? > > I took a look in the wiki and the mailing lists but couldn't see > anything (which is a bit strange, I would have expected someone to > have asked before - maybe I looked

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