Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-30 Thread Stephan Knauss
to >fuel >their vehicles. Attendants did everything; filled the tank, cleaned the >windshield, checked the oil. IIRC, that law just recently changed. > >Dave > >On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Stephan Knauss ><o...@stephans-server.de> >wrote: > >> It is the norm tha

Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-29 Thread Stephan Knauss
It is the norm that you have an attendant coming and filling up the tank for you. Some places will always clean the windscreen while waiting for the refill, but don't this is something to tag special as you can always ask the attendant to clean them. In some countries it differs, so I suggest

Re: [Tagging] Nicknames

2017-10-25 Thread Stephan Knauss
Why not using loc_name for it? Stephan On October 25, 2017 8:08:22 AM GMT+02:00, "Daniel Koć" wrote: >I think it'd be good to add "Big Apple" nickname as a popular (and >searchable) kind of placename for a New York: > >http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/61785451 > >

Re: [Tagging] "Neutral" language for objects in international areas

2017-04-06 Thread Stephan Knauss
Use name:en for English, name:fr for French and so on. No "name" tag. Map renderer will pick up the right one. See the map of openstreetmap.de on how this can be done. Stephan On April 7, 2017 3:26:15 AM GMT+07:00, "Nelson A. de Oliveira" wrote: >Which is the most

[Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

2017-03-20 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hello, most of you know that place with the green mermaid logo serving coffee. But what is it's name/brand to be tagged in OSM? There is a wiki page suggesting "Starbucks Coffee". No references listed how it was decided to be. It also mentioned that "Starbucks" was more common.

Re: [Tagging] Start of a river

2017-02-26 Thread Stephan Knauss
how about extending the waterway relation with a member role which can indicate either the "spring" or the "source" in case of a "creation" of a river by multiple tributary rivers? Not sure how it would best be called. Source? Origin? Confluence? Is there a specific hdyrology term for this?

Re: [Tagging] How to tag beginning of a river

2017-02-24 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 25.02.2017 04:28, Dave Swarthout wrote: I'm wondering if it's possible to tag in some meaningful way, the place, usually a node, where a river begins. It seems this would be of interest to people besides myself but I don't think there is currently a way to tag such a place. This mentions to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Jewellery shop

2016-01-26 Thread Stephan Knauss
The approved way of tagging is using the AE spelling. Approved by the use of the tag by thousands of mappers. Spelling it different could be treated as a misspelled tag. So "fixing" it is not that surprising. Bad luck for those who invented it in the wrong spelling. Now it is too late for

Re: [Tagging] Jewelry/jewellery shops

2016-01-13 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 13.01.2016 23:46, Matthijs Melissen wrote: We currently use British English for almost all OSM tags. Jewellery shops however are typically tagged with the American English variant shop=jewelry (20083 occurrences), and hardly ever with the British English variant shop=jewellery (187

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-20 Thread Stephan Knauss
Stephan On November 20, 2015 12:35:42 AM GMT+07:00, Robin Schneider <y...@riseup.net> wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA512 > >On 19.11.2015 13:01, Stephan Knauss wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the wiki page describes that "PH off" is requi

[Tagging] Opening hours, default for public holidays

2015-11-19 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hi, the wiki page describes that "PH off" is required in case something is closed on a public holiday. This page confirms it: http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/?setLng=de a facility tagged with "Mo-Fr 10:00-18:00" would be open on Christmas Friday. Wouldn't it be much more

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-26 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 23.03.2015 21:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-03-23 15:27 GMT+01:00 Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de mailto:o...@stephans-server.de: The wiki describes operator=independent as he value has been used when exact details of the operator are not known, other than

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-23 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 22.03.2015 20:29, fly wrote: some independent petrol stations are organized in associations and use these as their brand, see e.g. here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesverband_freier_Tankstellen So it is a brand. Maybe just small, but a brand of that association of fuel stations. not

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-23 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 23.03.2015 14:50, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: amenity=fuel fuel=bottled Which would render indistinguishable from a full service fuel station. That's fine, because selling fuel is what makes it a fuel station. You have missed the point of this thread. The world is not perfect.

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-20 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 20.03.2015 11:44, John Willis wrote: As long as distribution is non-traditional, a shop selling fuel oil and cordwood for heating is fine with me (I have to read up on fuel= tagging ) shop=fuel sounds reasonable. It seems to be used for coal, heating oil and kerosine. And a hand full of

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-19 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 19.03.2015 20:31, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: However I can see nothing wrong with amenity=fuel, that is what it is in that part of the world . What turns amenity=fuel into a regular filling station is the building=roof. There is a huge difference. You'll notice that if you end up with

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-29 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 29.09.2014 05:14, Никита wrote: Should we discourage usage of this tag(s) outside Korea and Japan? (I will vote yes for this part) a lot of people in Thailand will be mad at you then... Having named junctions is quite common. Stephan ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-29 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 29.09.2014 12:21, Никита wrote: Having named junctions is quite common. Do you mean personal name? There very-very few named junctions in Russia and almost all of them are local names, not official. Ex: Thailand has official signs naming the junctions/intersections. These names are also

Re: [Tagging] (Soapy) Massage Parlour

2014-09-22 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 21.09.2014 11:04, Dan S wrote: It looks like there's this tag, including a tag suggested for your specific issue: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmassage please don't use shop=massage for this kind of places. I really don't want them to show up on a map next to Wat Pho

Re: [Tagging] English translations in non-english countries

2014-09-13 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hello, On 13.09.2014 07:49, johnw wrote: Is there in OSM wide set for this? pulling all the default (English) labels off of an internationally focused map seems truly backwards. Whats the deal there? in OSM we focus on ground truth and having a local (!) community taking care of the data

Re: [Tagging] Ablution area

2014-08-31 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 31.08.2014 01:24, André Pirard wrote: On 2014-08-30 10:55, Dave Swarthout wrote : FWIW, I traveled extensively in New Zealand a few years ago and there an ablution block (or ablution area) is a place in a campground where one washes things — dishes, clothing, etc. That definition of ablution

Re: [Tagging] default value for oneway

2014-08-28 Thread Stephan Knauss
Xavier Noria writes: In the European cities and towns I know the majority of streets are one-way. In not a single EU city I know of there is something close to a majority of streets being one-way. Even more. In most of the villages the roads are not one-way. Based on this it's a good

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - No votes for proposals opening_hours_holiday_select and opening_hours_open_until

2014-04-07 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hi Robin, On 07.04.2014 22:11, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote: I created two proposals for which the time to vote is over but there are no votes :(. Should we open the voting once again or what is the usual procedure in such a case? The proposals are: that voting for a proposal is nothing more

Re: [Tagging] Fixing wrong opening_hours automatically

2014-03-06 Thread Stephan Knauss
Robin `ypid` Schneider writes: I mean the correction '0930-0630' - '09:30-06:30'* seams quite straight forward and I guess if someone aware of the wiki page about opening_hours will find such a value he/she will change it by hand anyway. I assume that this will improve the data quality and will

Re: [Tagging] Study area

2014-02-27 Thread Stephan Knauss
Andrew Errington writes: We have them here in Korea. Students pay per month and use the room to study in. The main reason they exist is because of the dense housing here it's sometimes hard for students to get a quiet place to study. If you say that studying is also some kind of work, then

Re: [Tagging] Study area

2014-02-27 Thread Stephan Knauss
Dave Swarthout writes: I agree. This is not a typical office. Here is a link, with photos, etc. http://www.mayashoppingcenter.com/store/detail/C.A.M.P/4.html I would not focus too much on the office in the key name. A footpath is also a highway. But everyone would agree it is not a highway

Re: [Tagging] Study area

2014-02-26 Thread Stephan Knauss
Dave Swarthout writes: It is a large area inside a multi-storey shopping complex that is very similar to a college study hall. It is an enclosed and air conditioned area equipped with tables and chairs, desks, couches, cushions, even individual glassed in rooms which can be used for meetings

Re: [Tagging] Study area

2014-02-26 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 27.02.2014 01:48, Dave Swarthout wrote: @Martin, I'm not sure about the status of the books but that's not the prominent feature of this place. I will go back for more details later but it is definitely not a library. @Stephan - neither Punspace or Guru's Box are tagged. I brought that fact

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-28 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hi Richard, On 28.03.2013 21:21, Richard Welty wrote: in rural areas, these are predetermined locations for helicopters to set down to airlift out urgent medical cases. they are not generally official helipads, just level grassy areas where they have arrangements with the landowner. generally