Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-03-01 Thread fly
Am 27.02.2015 um 22:44 schrieb Martin Vonwald: > 2015-02-27 16:22 GMT+01:00 fly : > >> Did sleep one night and now think we should include bays and lanes >> within the lanes:-Tagging >> >> lanes=3 >> lanes:forward=2 >> lanes:backward=1 >> access:lanes:forward=yes|yes|emergency >> access:lanes:back

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-28 Thread John Willis
> On Feb 28, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Jo wrote: > > Like those, but to me it doesn't feel right to draw a separate service way > for them. There is no division like between dual carriageways. It's merely > the road that becomes a bit wider, so the buses can get out of the way of the > other traffi

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-28 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 27.02.2015 18:38, Jo wrote: > I can't help but keep hoping that a way to tag bus bays emerges as a > side product of this discussion. At the moment I'm resorting to drawing > the platform way, the cycleway or the landuse around them, but there are > cases where the cycleway goes straight through

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-28 Thread Jo
Like those, but to me it doesn't feel right to draw a separate service way for them. There is no division like between dual carriageways. It's merely the road that becomes a bit wider, so the buses can get out of the way of the other traffic. Drawing the platform as a separate way, or the cycleway

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-28 Thread Warin
The bus bays and breakdown bays are short sections that exit from the nearest highway and return back to it, not too complex to tag as highway=service and service=bus_bay or breakdown_bay? Some breakdown bays have emergency telephones too. I've not bothered with platform way here .. too many

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Tagging lanes/bays as separate ways seems wrong. It ends in complex junctions where every lane has its own highway=*. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.04570&mlon=19.92147#map=19/50.04570/19.92147 https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/899988/6425360/dfbdf646-bf25-11e4-9aca-20b25eab450f.pn

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! 2015-02-27 16:22 GMT+01:00 fly : > Did sleep one night and now think we should include bays and lanes > within the lanes:-Tagging > > lanes=3 > lanes:forward=2 > lanes:backward=1 > access:lanes:forward=yes|yes|emergency > access:lanes:backward=yes|emergency > To me it just does not feel righ

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread Colin Smale
Bus bays like this? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/287489422 On 2015-02-27 18:38, Jo wrote: > I can't help but keep hoping that a way to tag bus bays emerges as a side > product of this discussion. At the moment I'm resorting to drawing the > platform way, the cycleway or the landuse

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread Jo
I can't help but keep hoping that a way to tag bus bays emerges as a side product of this discussion. At the moment I'm resorting to drawing the platform way, the cycleway or the landuse around them, but there are cases where the cycleway goes straight through them, as well and that's not really ma

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-27 17:33 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt : > These bays are, in a sense, very restricted amenity=parking, I agree on landuse=highway (because they are clearly part of the highway), although that doesn't seem to be a very helpful way of tagging, I'd also include them in area:highway but they are

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
These bays are, in a sense, very restricted amenity=parking, or a non-lane landuse=highway. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-27 16:22 GMT+01:00 fly : > Did sleep one night and now think we should include bays and lanes > within the lanes:-Tagging > IMHO not, these bays are no lanes, hence should not be tagged as lanes. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-27 Thread fly
Did sleep one night and now think we should include bays and lanes within the lanes:-Tagging lanes=3 lanes:forward=2 lanes:backward=1 access:lanes:forward=yes|yes|emergency access:lanes:backward=yes|emergency All together I am not happy with the description of lanes=* and lanes:*=* anymore. Where

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-26 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-02-25 19:56 GMT+01:00 Ole Nielsen : > On 25/02/2015 16:41, Martin Vonwald wrote: > >> I don't think of them as lanes, so I wouldn't use some :lanes-tag. I >> thought that there is already a tag, that I simply put on the road for >> the length of the bay - just like e.g. sidewalk=right. But th

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-26 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-02-25 16:52 GMT+01:00 fly : > Well, emergency=bay might interfere with access tagging and we should > probably use left/right as you will find them not only on dual carriage > roads. > > emergency_bay=both/left/right ? > That seems reasonable to me. > How do we tag emergency lanes ? > I

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 25/02/2015 16:41, Martin Vonwald wrote: I don't think of them as lanes, so I wouldn't use some :lanes-tag. I thought that there is already a tag, that I simply put on the road for the length of the bay - just like e.g. sidewalk=right. But that's obviously not the case and it is not possible wi

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread fly
Am 25.02.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Martin Vonwald: > 2015-02-25 16:34 GMT+01:00 fly : > >> So what do you have in mind ? Tagging them as additional tag on the way >> with highway=*? Using lanes:-Tagging ? >> > > I don't think of them as lanes, so I wouldn't use some :lanes-tag. I > thought that there

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-02-25 16:34 GMT+01:00 fly : > So what do you have in mind ? Tagging them as additional tag on the way > with highway=*? Using lanes:-Tagging ? > I don't think of them as lanes, so I wouldn't use some :lanes-tag. I thought that there is already a tag, that I simply put on the road for the len

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread fly
Am 25.02.2015 um 16:19 schrieb Martin Vonwald: > Hm...had a quick look how they are tagged and I'm not really convinced. > They are tagged as area beside the road (without any connection) or as > individual roads. In my opinion both does not fit well :-/ So what do you have in mind ? Tagging them

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread Volker Schmidt
Here in Italy they are tagged in some areas and as nodes: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/7SA On 25 February 2015 at 16:19, Martin Vonwald wrote: > Hm...had a quick look how they are tagged and I'm not really convinced. > They are tagged as area beside the road (without any connection) or as > indiv

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hm...had a quick look how they are tagged and I'm not really convinced. They are tagged as area beside the road (without any connection) or as individual roads. In my opinion both does not fit well :-/ Thanks anyway, Martin 2015-02-25 16:11 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt : > http://wiki.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread Volker Schmidt
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency_bay On 25 February 2015 at 15:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2015-02-25 15:20 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald : > >> I obviously forgot how to tag breakdown bays (lay-bys, german: >> Pannenbucht), something like this: http://binged.it/1

Re: [Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-02-25 15:20 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald : > I obviously forgot how to tag breakdown bays (lay-bys, german: > Pannenbucht), something like this: http://binged.it/1LCYpoM > Couldn't find anything in the wiki or taginfo. > could be something for the emergency key? Or highway. cheers, Martin

[Tagging] Breakdown bays?

2015-02-25 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! I obviously forgot how to tag breakdown bays (lay-bys, german: Pannenbucht), something like this: http://binged.it/1LCYpoM Couldn't find anything in the wiki or taginfo. Any tips? Best regards, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.