Re: [Tagging] Bus route relations. Forward/backward tag

2015-03-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Éric Gillet gill3t.3ric+...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-16 13:03 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: There are still cases where forward/backward are useful with P2-routes. E.g. a route with a loop and some members used twice but different directions.

Re: [Tagging] Bus route relations. Forward/backward tag

2015-03-04 Thread Jo
Can you send links to the route relations? (Ctrl-Shft-h of Ctrl-Shift-i in JOSM, then copy/paste the url). That rendering with all the red lines is not the best way to represent PT. Jo 2015-03-04 12:55 GMT+01:00 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org: On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Éric Gillet

Re: [Tagging] Bus route relations. Forward/backward tag

2015-02-16 Thread Éric Gillet
2015-02-16 13:03 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: There are still cases where forward/backward are useful with P2-routes. E.g. a route with a loop and some members used twice but different directions. Shouldn't one just duplicate the stop_positions in the relation, and add ways

Re: [Tagging] Bus route relations. Forward/backward tag

2015-02-16 Thread Jo
Loops and spoons are still quite common, even when each variation gets its own route relation to describe which ways are used from beginning to end. What is better in v2 is that the way to describe each of the variations, is completely unambiguous. To me they are easier to fix when they get

Re: [Tagging] Bus route relations. Forward/backward tag

2015-02-16 Thread Jo
Yes, I'm reconsidering my POV. It will probably make sorting the members automatically a lot easier than it is atm. /me is off to go and convert some route relations... :-) (Helped by a script ofc, doing it manually is a chore. So I'll adapt the script and let you know when it's ready to be

Re: [Tagging] Bus route relations. Forward/backward tag

2015-02-16 Thread fly
There are still cases where forward/backward are useful with P2-routes. E.g. a route with a loop and some members used twice but different directions. Personally, I still use forward/backward on any member of a route which is only used in one direction and for all P2-routes as it makes it much

Re: [Tagging] Bus route relations. Forward/backward tag

2015-02-15 Thread Jo
On the one hand I'm not adding roles to the ways in PT routes relations anymore, instead I add all the ways in the correct order. Some ways are included twice. But if you prefer to add them, you have to know forward/backward relates to the direction of the way itself. If it follows the arrow: